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I think I was firmly in the camp of incompetence over the OBrien fiasco
Now it comes to Duncan McGuire...fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me
This is a scale of incompetence not seen at a professional football club. Two transfers that are potentially season defining, failing because the people in charge don't have the abilities to see them through. I had a sneaky feeling this was coming, as the press line was that this was "complex". What is complex about a loan with an option to buy? Clubs do it every bloody transfer window!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We manage to secure plenty of signings over the course of the seasons, but the last two big money transfers have all been too complex to see to the end, which has also coincided with a tax fraud investigation back in India
So, whilst incompetence is the theme of Venkys ownership, these two particular instances stink that little bit more. Did they drag their feet knowing if they don't at least try, they may lose their head coach and have to pay for a new one? Or is it that once again we have an internal beef between those in charge - Waggot, Suhail and the owners vs Broughton and JDT. I can't rule the last one out. It has happened before. JDT aimed his frustrations at Suhail and Waggot and not at Broughton (much to Rev's and Mercer's dismay) and that to me tells me he know where the blame lies. He's in it every day. He has never, ever had time for Waggott
I trust JDT. He has won it all and has no need to lie. I think his comments are smart and allow people listening to have an understanding of the club, whilst also protecting himself from being sacked without recompense, especially after he already offered to go for free. He will now want paying for his sacrifice
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If recent events in the country tell you anything, it is that only action which causes significant disruption that will have any impact
It's difficult to tell others what to do when you aren't there yourself, but it's my belief that the only way this will get publicity is to first draw serious attention to the games. This can be done by disrupting each game as much as possible: whistles, pitch invasions, throwing balls on the surface etc. Only then will the cameras look at the club, and the pundits / commentators / podcasters will talk about why the fans feel they have to do this
Of course we have been here before. The Venkys rode on through that. Over a decade on though, you have to wonder why it is still not working for them
You do feel the tide is again turning. They have managed to create this aura of being benevolent owners but that facade is crumbling. The more we have to hold firesales, the more incomings are disrupted and the longer this tax investigation continues the more their position becomes untenable
The Action Group should reform and coordinate the disruptive protests whilst the Trust continues with the amicable side of things - club liaison and so fourth. But the bottom line is, there should not be a game that goes on at Ewood that is not disrupted until this lot finally pack up and feck off
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You can get bots for about £5000 a month to post consistently good reviews / comments on your business
It would stand to reason that a company the size of Venkys will have bots. That they may use them to post on Blackburn Rovers fan pages is news to me. Why would they feel the need to do that?
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1 hour ago, den said:
That’s the Lib Dem’s with my vote den 😉
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We are too slow and too weak
It is that simple. We can blame the system all we want, but the players are not good enough at the moment
Moran and Dolan aren’t the answers to our prayers
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If JDT goes, he goes. Coaches / managers come and go in football. It is what it is
I think he's a good manager and with the right resources he will manage at very good levels. He isn't irreplaceable though. As Mowbray shows - there's always somebody else waiting
Our worries won't begin or end with JDT. They are squarely with the owners. They are the ones who need to go for us to turn a new leaf
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Just now, roverandout said:
Another old timer hasbeen
The man is 32
Old timer..you cheeky fuck 😂
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Well, that’s a good signing. Only for 6 months but fair fucking play
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It’s the hope that kills you
I was about to go to bed
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Ya know what’s mad - Travis got loaned out because Wharton was taking his place in the 6 role
Then we sold Wharton
And we didn’t bring anybody in to replace either
Classic Venkys
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1 minute ago, Spankus Munky said:
No that's owed to the bank, that Venkys guarantee. You may not like it but that debt is on the club, sure it has been largely caused by Venkys but it's us as a club will suffer. Let's say the BoI call in the debt you do realise one of the Assets Venkys put up as a guarantee is the club itself, right? Do you think an Administrator would broker a £22m sale of a 19 year old, 2 Cap U20 international?
The debt of circa £200m is not with the Bank of India
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12 minutes ago, Spankus Munky said:
Yes it is, because the money goes into the club, and the club is bigger than Venkys. Even if the bank take it all it ultimately still benifits the club by reducing debt.
Behave yourself
Nobody believes this. Is this just being contrarian for the sake of it?
Reduce the debt ffs - it is all to Venkys!!!! I hope they don't get a bloody penny. So no, it is not a good deal for Blackburn Rovers
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Club Statement 2nd February 2024
In what was an incredibly busy and super duper complicated day a misunderstanding with the EFL has meant we are uncertain if any of our signings will be ratified.
On 1st February at 9.59pm Steve Waggot left William Hill with his only pen in his top pocket. Once we had completed the unfathomably complex deal with McGuire we were ready to send in our formal paperworkUnfortunately, in spelling
Kimento,Kumeatola,OBrien… Billy’s last name wrong over 39 times, Steve’s pen ran outMr Waggott decided it was time to move on. However, due to the confusion caused by Billy’s paperwork, and having no official BRFC pens in stock, the only device capable of writing was a light blue wax crayola. Despite us getting the paperwork in on time, the EFL decided to further complicate matters by asking silly questions, such as “why are you writing in crayon?”
Due to the confusion we have not managed to sign any player. We have consulted our legal team and intend to lodge an appeal to the Football League momentarily
We would like to wish Adam Wharton the best of luck in his future career. If only his bloody brother was as good
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Why is every Rovers deal "complicated"??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
You know, there's usually a term for people like that. I have met a few people in my working life that always find things complicated
They are usually dossers
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We won't sign anyone
Signing a 37 year old with 3 Championship relegations on a 6 month deal, whilst also loaning out your captain and selling your best prospect for £20m is about as Venkys a transfer window as you can ever imagine
"Pray they never leave" - piss off
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3 minutes ago, rovers11 said:
So the rumours look like they've potentially been exaggerated. It looked like the Wharton deal may be off last night and that's why we pulled the plug on cash signings. Wharton deal back on though.
I wouldn't say exaggerated. It is exactly what happened
Wharton deal could have collapsed so the Owners said no to McGuire very early
Suhail probably couldn't wait to feed the news back to Orlando
Let's be real, any normal club would have waited until the bloke landed. He had hours in the air left. Palace are always going to sign Wharton - he's had his medical, they have money. I don't really go into JHRover's line of conspiracy at the club, but this fucking stinks. If we don't sign McGuire it will not be because the Club had "difficulties", it will be because they did their best to show they "tried"
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Yeah, Jackson's comments are telling
Wharton will "definitely" sign. No definite about McGuire
Get the Just Stop Oil boys in. Paint and chicken feathers over the directors box. This lot need to get gone
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Fuck off Venky’s. Hate is the only word I have
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I would resign if I was JDT
Best midfielder sold for £20m, captain sent out on loan and all transfers with a fee cancelled
It’s madness
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2 minutes ago, Polky said:
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The issue is that Mcfadzean has never really done a lot with those 561 career appearances. Well, except 3 relegations from the Championship
I don't even know if he is the kind of father figure you'd want at the club. I honestly think Batth would have been a better deal. Getting in someone for experience only is only good if that experience is in winning
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McFadzean is a crazy signing. We may as well have signed Danny Batth.....................
McFadzean used to play for Alfreton. I played against him in a friendly in either 2009 or 2010. He was a good player at that level to be fair. Think he was playing for England at the same time. He isn't actually that tall for a centre half. Just remember him being a bruiser, which is what defines centre halves at that level. A bit of a bully boy - which I suppose we are missing
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5 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:
You'll have to wheel Broughton out of the place in a wooden box with Waggott I'll wager. No way he's giving up that cushy little number with zero accountability.
Your dislike of Broughton is irrational
It simply has to be for the purpose of winding people up. You aren’t stupid
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£22m for your young prodigy sounds good. At a normal club
We have never reinvested any of the money we make. That's why I still think it is silly people moan about the Brereton fiasco. Okay, we'd have got £8m, but for the team what does that even mean?
We might sign a player for about £1m. Maybe that McGuire lad who I know absolutely nothing about. That's not reinvestment though
Really we want to be signing McGuire and then a good, top level Championship midfielder for about £5m range for about £15k a week on a 4 year deal. That's how you reinvest the money from Wharton. Won't happen though
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When the Venkys took over, we lost our starlet to Utd
It wasn't nice to see Jones go but you could understand it
After over a decade of their ownership we now lose our stars to Crystal Palace. A phrase you would have laughed at if you were told that back in 2008
They are a blight on all things Blackburn Rovers. Until they go, nothing improves
I am with JHRover on this one. The most sickening part is knowing it makes Waggott's and Madam's life that little bit easier
I have enjoyed every minute of watching young Adam develop and play here. Sickening to lose him like this
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Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas
in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
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This could be a very smart PR campaign idea Rover80
It could be done with all sorts of things:
Turnover in 2009 - £50.4m; in 2023 - £16.6m
Wage to Turnover 2009 - 90.5%; 2023 - 147%
Etc etc. Everything has got worse. Shareholders funds in 2009 - +£28m; shareholders deficit in 2023: -£122m
It could produce a series of striking graphics