1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

Was there a consultation when they closed the Darwen End for home fans?

Or when they relocated the family stand from the BBE upper to the JW stand?

Or did they just go and do it?

At least they are showing a willing to change approach and we should react positively to it

3 minutes ago, J*B said:

This is far more reasoned and considered than I had expected if I’m honest. 

Reasoned and considered is the nature of a QS J*B............

Nah, if you have access to BCIS as I do for work, things like that take about 10 minutes

But in all seriousness, I really don't think the redevelopment of this stand is an out of the ordinary undertaking. Tell the Issa brothers they can put a Subway and a Costa in it and they'd chip in a few quid

I don't think anything like that will ever happen under Venkys though. The operation is survive and appease. The addition of a few safe standing seats can't even garner their support- they are asking for crowd funding. It's madness. Anybody serious would see the Riverside as an opportunity. Instead, it is something they want to hide and forget about, hence the switch of camera angles

2 hours ago, J*B said:

How much do you think it'll cost to do this? Considering it seems we nearly went bankrupt because the club couldn't get money in from India this year, I can't see the level of investment needed to get the Riverside into anything viable. 

I just went through BCIS to analyse stadia development and adjusted the location / date to Q4 2024

The best benchmark would be the Torquay redevelopment of their stand, with a fitness suite, to accomodate 1,800 people

A cost per m2 for this would be £3,691

A cost per person would be £1,611.81

Say we have a stand that seats 4,000 people, a broad benchmark would be £6.5m

Or, assuming the Riverside stand is about 2000m2 @ £3691m2 = £7.4m

I have too much time on my hands
Waggot could employ me to manage it for him. I'd do it for expenses only. That would save em a few bob

£7.4m to the Venkys is chicken feed I should add. They waste that each year just by owning us.

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4 minutes ago, philipl said:

Both goals actually. 

He over anticipates needing a low drive going either side of him and in so doing made himself too small to stop a shot going high. But it is percentages- Brum punted so many shots high and over that I think Leo was right to bet on them driving it low and hard when they had a clear sight of netting particularly seeing videos of recent goals they have scored.

The second had to be absolutely precise to get it up over and down from the edge of the area - commentary said it took a slight deflection to cause the dip.

Having said that, It was another improving performance from Wahlstedt and the save from Janokovicz was exceptionally sharp. 

 

Could this be a case of unhealthy perfectionism Phillip? 🤣

It didn't help Leo that Dembele had a practically free strike at the ball from less than 10 yards in front of him, and managed to bend it around Hill

For the 3rd goal it came off Wharton which caused a wicked dip but I do think he should have got a hand to it. Goalkeepers practice these type of reactions all the time. I'd chalk that one down as a mistake

Surely the best option for the Club in the long term is to develop the entire Riverside area into a safe standing, single tier stand

In the short term, a portion of the BBE lower, probably around N01

I am gobsmacked that a company the size of Blackburn Rovers continues to allow the Riverside to dilapidate with no business plan to improve this area. It has great potential in my opinion

15 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

They looked a far better team last season under their previous manager. 

John Eustace is a top bloke and his sacking was a disgrace. The board deserve everything they are getting. The Blues fans don't like it either, and they aren't the most patient

I quite like Garett too. Like others I don’t think he’s technical enough to sit deeper. The assist for Szmodics actually came from a mistake by Garrett. His second touch was a tackle, which he won, but on another day he might not have. The pass to Szmodics was weighted brilliantly though, although he did have an entire half to aim at!! 

I see him as a bit of a ball winner, make the easy pass and keep the game ticking. In a high press he could be very effective. I just hope he has more pace than Travis, who at times finds himself a yard or two behind play 

With Wharton ruled out I would go with Trav at RB and Hill centre half. The rest of the team unchanged. 

Tronstad was the 'glue' today

Didn't give the ball away, harried the opposition and just looked a tidy midfield player. Type of man you'd want besides you when you're in the trenches, as we were for the majority of todays game actually

As I said in the match thread - he is every bit the player that Travis should have been

I can't lie, that was a really difficult watch. The goals being at the very beginning and the very end is a perfect away performance in many ways, but the 90 minutes in between them were tough...

We sat very deep for most of the second half and I had this horrible feeling we'd concede again. It's strange to say after a 3-0 away but we have definitely played better and lost before

Sammie is great on the ball and on another day could have had a hat-trick. I think Dolan had a poor game but pressed relentlessly. Our defence were superb throughout and James Hill really is a diamond player. Woe on those who begrudged us loaning "another kid"

Moran played well, if not a little clumsy at times. Tronstad really is the glue that holds the midfield together and is everything Travis should have been.

I thought Brittain was quiet too, but his defensive work was what today was about for him. Brilliant effort

Personally I'd have liked to have seen us be a bit more adventurous in the 2nd half. We sat very deep and on another day might have lived to regret it. As it stands it was executed with perfection and we come away with another away win. Great turnaround after the disappointment of the Preston game

Blokes they have gifted us that…

I’ll take it. JDT masterclass 👀

This is ha hard watch. We need some fresh legs up top. They are knackered. Stoke have used all of their subs - we used one due to injuries. 
Does JDT really have that little faith with our bench?

Why are we not making any changes? 

It has been sloppy from both sides really. Not a great advertisement for technical football

It's been a good watch though. First 15 were end to end and really, with a bit of quality, five or six goals could have been scored

We need to improve going forward. I'd take Dolan off - he isn't up to it today. Bring Leonard on, who I think is going to get bags of chances today and might be a game he can get some serious confidence from

Bloody hell it's been all Stoke since the goal
Trav at right back should have made an easy cross to Szmodics and then Stoke nearly score by Trav being beaten in the air...

Don't think he's a right back myself

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Our trough is bloody good though

I always liked Bellamy. He would get kicked and chopped but rode the tackles, beat his man and put the ball where it needed to be 

Riding challenges like that all game is a lot harder than giving them out 

Steven Reid hasn’t had many mentions either. He enjoyed a tackle here and there…

I get what people are saying about Todd. He was a thug but he was good at what he did…. Wouldn’t survive a game in this era though. That’s probably what loses his hard man award for me. He played a little too hard

I think for me I always loved Ryan Nelsen. He was hard. He wouldn’t go out to deliberately hurt you, but if you tried to get in the way of him and the ball then that was your bad luck 

Brad Friedel smashing through Egiogu (spelling?) and breaking his ribs deserves a mention too 

I also think Dickov could handle himself. Another who could take a kick like a champ 

Ezri Konsa finally getting what he has been owed for some time

It will be interesting to see if Tomori gets a chance. He's got to be wondering what else he has to do

7 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Or just don’t bother with captains? Pointless in football (unlike say cricket where they are in essence the player manager on a matchday), especially at the top level where players are coached to an inch of their life.

A captain can make or break the team though Matty

Sometimes you have it where there is a club captain and a match day captain. I'd say the club captain is the most important part, especially in pro football as you say, because they are the go between for the squad to the management

12 minutes ago, BigBar said:

I wouldn't consider a performance containing that degree of error as playing well, given he had very little to do after that he wasnt given the chance to redeem himself. The bar is fairly low if making a horror mistake that leads to a goal and then the basics after that means you played well. Higher standards are required from the players, management and the fans. Too soft for too long now, zero accountability. You can back the players but still be honest.

I don’t know why you think I’m not being honest. I am

Like I say, footballers make errors every single game. Unfortunately a goalkeepers’ mistake is amplified because of the consequences 

I am just glad you were never on the coaching team for someone I played for. You’d get nowhere with that mentality. Human beings make mistakes. 

4 minutes ago, BigBar said:

Stop making excuses, id expect the keeper to save that if Hyam had him in a headlock nevermind being near him. It's a howler but we move on. Let's call it as it is.

I didn’t make an excuse. Watch the video, it’s what happened 

It was an error. When a goalkeeper makes an error it unfortunately costs goals. Lots can contribute to that error though and the players around him certainly would have. You’d expect an outfield player to make a perfect touch every time, but it doesn’t always happen. Fortunately for them it doesn’t always cost as much as a goalkeepers mistake does 

Leo did move on and played well and that’s all that is important now 

1 hour ago, Atko's Engine said:

I can't believe how folk seem to expect perfection from players at this level.  Leo made a mistake, clearly; point out to me a keeper this season who hasn't. His oppo last night, one of the most experienced 'keepers at this level who I think 8 out of 10 of us would've been happy to sign in summer, also had a shocker. Leo made a top class save on Saturday to win us 2 points.  Why the need to be so critical now & say we need a 3rd goalkeeper when he's been here 5 minutes? 

All good keepers make howlers; at least Leo seemed to shrug it off last night & do a good job thereafter. And don't anyone say it's just someone expressing an opinion on the internet so it doesn't matter; it does, just ask Dolan. Criticism is fine if it's constructive & objective.

Great win last night, two lovely goals from our perspective, good recovery from a poor start, great resilience to aerial bombardment, and made all the sweeter for me with it being part of a 30/1 acca that made me £300, despite Manure doing their best to put the skids on it in the 94th minute!

Onana, top keeper!!! (Feels like this post has come full circle now!)

 

I will never begrudge a goalkeeper. They have a terrible job. Worst on the pitch imo. Because their mistakes cost so much - goals, even points - it brings out really emotive criticism

Leo wasn’t helped yesterday by the presence of Hyam. It was just a recipe for disaster allowing that ball to be headed twice. When you play football you really do understand how the presence of a player running at you can hamper your ability. In this case, I’ve no doubt Leo saw, in his periphery, Hyam coming towards him. It can’t have made it easier 

Goalies will always take unfair criticism. I don’t think his fondness of punching is a bad thing. I only saw one cross yesterday where I thought he could have caught it. Every other time I’d have been happy if my keeper dealt with it as Leo did 

18 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

You're assuming Leo is being told to punch. Szmodics absolutely bollocked him when he punched one in the 2nd half and held his hands out as if to say 'catch it'. 

Sammie had a moan a couple of times last night. Don't think he had his best game and he was letting his frustration show

Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Did we make him an offer ? Just asking as I don’t know the answer.

I don't know for certain Tyrone but I'd imagine we did. The terms may not have been favourable for Dack, but in life there's often more to think about than the money. Especially with their combined earning potential. I'd say his other half earns more than Dack with her marketing and tv appearances

The lure of working with Mowbray again and being the main man must have played a part too