2 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Not sure I agree fully. I take your points on his limitations, but he is growing into a leader, wins a lot of dirty stuff and he is passionate about the club and the fans. Losing him would be very bad imo. I think he's good enough to play for a team near the top. 

Near the top of what? He’s a dreadful footballer.

12 minutes ago, Torgeir said:

Shouldn't it be the other way around?

 

Edit: That's probably what you meant. Keep the Armstrong fee relatively low and Obafemis price high but in reality based on our own valuations Obafemis price is lower than reported. If that makes sense 🙂

I presume if it was Armstrong for £15m + Obafemi we’d have to give Newcastle 40% of the market value of Obafemi. If we said Armstrong for £15m as a deal and Obafemi for £1 (as an example) as another deal, the Obafemi deal would be distinct from the Armstrong deal and his valuation wouldn’t come into it as far as Newcastle are concerned.

The Obafemi deal will be ‘separate’ to the Armstrong deal because of the 40% to Newcastle. We’ll get him on the cheap.

Armstrong is 100% Premier League quality, hence why Premier League clubs with Premier League scouting networks are willing to spend tens of millions of pounds on him. People said that he wouldn’t be Championship quality when we made his loan move permanent, they were wrong.
 

His CV is incredible for a 24 year old, if he’s a Championship player who’s not Premier League quality then no Championship player is Premier League quality. 
 

Good luck to him, I really hope he does well.

The irony of this thread is that we’re now in the exact same position as we were before Kean Out Day, what have we done to deserve this last 10+ years?

I will not be renewing my season ticket next season if Mowbray is still in charge, just like I didn’t when Kean was in charge. I don’t think I’ll be the only one.

7 hours ago, Ossydave said:

Surely you want us to stay up though?

Couldn’t care less to be honest. Stay up and have another season like this one, the last one and the one before that, what’s the point?

Who cares. I refuse to support a club with an unsackable manager.

I’ve said it before, if Mowbray was going to be sacked he’d have been sacked weeks ago. He’s as unsackable as Kean.

12 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

He's back in the UK now apparently. Regardless, they can speak on phones, zoom etc. I'm sure the ability to communicate is not what is holding up Mowbray's sacking. 

I think what’s holding up Mowbray’s sacking is that he’s not going to be sacked but we’ll see, I very much hope I’m wrong.

6 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

He very much is

Fair enough if that’s the case but I’m still unsure what the conversations would be about, Pasha telling Waggot that his mate might be getting sacked? Or Pasha telling Waggot that he must sack his mate?
 

I just don’t think that Waggot should be/will be involved in the decision making process. Surely the conversations will be between Pasha and Venkys, which obviously wouldn’t leak over here until it’s actually happened.

5 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

That doesn’t make sense mate. Otherwise Kean would still be the manager. 

Kean was sacked/pushed to resign by Shebby, as far as I know we no longer have a global advisor (although we could do with one) - and Kean’s departure came completely out of the blue, like Mowbray’s would.

Last I heard was that Pasha was back in India and had been for a while, not sure how anyone in the UK would be party to his conversations with the Venkys.

2 hours ago, oldjamfan1 said:

I have heard that there are conversations being had. I gave up betting a couple of years ago but if I was still a gambler I would be throwing the house at TM to be the next manager sacked in the championship 

How can there be conversations being had when there isn’t anyone to have conversations?

Could it be a natural weakness in his ligaments as well as overcompensation?

4 minutes ago, BigBar said:

I really didn't like Raya's challenge on Dack. I know it wasnt the typical nasty one but didn't like it, sloppy.

Don’t be silly, Raya got caught out and tried to put his body in the way of the ball as a last ditch attempt. Tragic if Dack’s injury is as bad as we fear but Raya can’t be blamed for it, anyone would have done the same in his position.

He’s a decent footballer but his lack of pace will hold him back.

I feel like I did in the Kean days - results, which would be the most important thing at a normal club, are irrelevant.

10 minutes ago, Aqualung said:

A friend of mine knows Mowbray personally. This goes back to his Ipswich days and he told me you couldn't wish to meet a nicer chap. 

Now, as a nice chap who is decent, Tony please step down and enjoy your retirement. Nowt against you personally but my football club is suffering. 

Can be as nice as he wants but money makes people do things they ordinarily wouldn’t, there’s no way he’s walking away without being paid up.

1 minute ago, jim mk2 said:

Championship managers all do this now. Let us have the ball because we're not going to threaten their goal. Rinse and repeat

Yep. I don’t watch Reading enough to know whether they do that regularly or not but that was definitely their plan today.

If he wasn’t unsackable, he would have been sacked by now.

Not even a murmur of him going, beginning to feel more and more like the Kean era - a failing, yet unsackable, manager, depressing.

Guaranteed win today to save Mowbray’s skin.

2 hours ago, JHRover said:

People reading too much into this. The Twitter administrator has the birthdays of all Rovers players, including academy lads and ex players, saved in their calendar to wish happy birthday to.

They won't have saved the date for Mowbray's anniversary.

It really is that simple.

He's going nowhere. 

Yep. How would the twitter admin know anymore than us?