3 minutes ago, arbitro said:

There is no doubt he acquitted himself well and showed himself to be capable and able to cope with Championship football.

I just think calling his performance excellent is extreme.

Obviously what you consider excellent and what I consider excellent are different, I look at football not from just an attacking perspective but also from the ugly hard work side of things and in that instance for me he was excellent, Mowbray will have been more happy with him from that perspective than anything he may have done against Sheffield Wednesday for example

46 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I thought JRC was pretty ineffective yesterday and like another poster abovw I was somewhat underwhelmed given the sort of build up he has had from those who have seen more of him.

Nevertheless it was only his first game so you can't judge him too harshly and I look forward to seeing what he can do given an extended chance. I'd far rather see him and Chapman in the side than Gallagher and Bennett. 

What do you think you have got in JRC? 

some need to calm down where he is concerned, he isn't the 2nd coming he is a young lad trying to make his way in the game, some expect these lads to be the finished article and ready to take on the world, but in the real world that's not the case, the way some think about young players is baffling to me, its the same with Buckley, give them time and be patient and you may see a decent player emerge, it wasn't long ago Ryan Nyambe was coping it from most, he is now showing 2 years down the line what he is about, if you want instant results your watching the wrong game

3 minutes ago, arbitro said:

I thought Rankin-Costello had a decent game but saying he was excellent is extreme. None of our players were excellent.

Had he been excellent I'm sure he would have played the whole match.

He was taken off due to his head injury which eventually caught up with him, based on all the factors and the fact it was his 1st league start he equitted himself excellently in my opinion  and showed more than anything he is ready to compete at this level, he also made and won more tackles than any other Rovers player, which should point to the fact how hard the team had to work defensivly to get the point and explain maybe why we didn't see to much of him going forward

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

One or two? He has made far more mistakes than that, the one yesterday brings him closer to double figures I would suggest. Brilliant save at the end though.

He plugged away and you cant fault his determination but he didnt do anything from an attacking persepctive, and as a winger who offers nothing going forward, I think its difficult to judge such a performance as anything above ok, certainly not remarkable or excellent.

He seems physically capable, but I would like to see something from an attacking perspective next time he plays.

That's all well and good but you have to control the game from an attacking perspective for that to happen, yesterday once Holtby was taken off that wasn't the case for Rovers, it was dig in and see what we can get JRC showed Mowbray more yesterday than he would of seen from him before, as he showed he was capable of coping with that side of the game also he ain't a winger, why some think he is I don't know, he plays more like an old inside forward, he isn't like Chapman for example who is a winger

Also a quick question did you go yesterday? 

12 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Definitely should be on the bench over the likes of Samuel and Brereton and considered wide before Gallagher and Bennett. Would be between the 2 for that spot.

Obviously Rankin Costello deserves perhaps more leeway as it was his full debut but I was a little underwhelmed, he plugged away but didnt offer anything from an attacking sense. As you say though, deserves another go.

I thought JRC did excellently, made more tackles than any other Rovers player the game didn't allow for him to get forward as much as he would have liked and added to this the head injury I think what he did pretty remarkable 

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1 hour ago, Swanson said:

Weren't we linked with that George Tanner kid from Man U earlier in the window? He has signed for Salford on loan for the rest of the season.

That was never going to happen just a rumour, he is looking to kick start the next stage of his career and he wouldn't have got that at Rovers, he would have been playing 23s football here and the same at Derby, he would have been better off staying at Motcombe than doing that

He has now moved onto the next level of league 2 with his move to Salford, which is an excellent move for him, he is definatley one to keep an eye on though as he progresses his career

Just now, Mike E said:

Gerrard, Carragher, G. Neville, Dunn.

Although if anything that just proves your point re: what rare cases they are.

All multi millionaires playing for top flight clubs wining things on a regular basis,

I wonder how many would have hung around on £1500/week in league 1 when some one offers you 10x your wage and the chance (that granted didn't materialise) to play in the Premier League

1 minute ago, Vilesinner said:

No, they don't. We had better players than him remain to help us out of League 1.

And How many were offered £14k/week to sign for Bournemouth? 

Mahony is a Rovers fan from a Rovers family when someone offers to make you a millionaire over the period of your contract unfortunately the fan in them gets put on the back burner

1 hour ago, J*B said:

JRC has a Burnley tattoo - we can all get over things. 

Haha he nearly signed for them lot before Rovers stepped in, he had a trial their but didn't fancy playing in a cat3 academy and as soon as Rovers came calling with cat1 it was no contest

Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

Well that's it, it was a financial choice over helping the club he supports get back to the Championship. Not a huge fan I would wager. 

They all have their price mate

1 minute ago, Scotland1 said:

Thought JRC is from Stockport. 

He is and is a Man City fan he had a season ticket from being 6 and up to signing his scholarship with Rovers, he gave it up then as he had to ball boy at Rovers home games when Bowyer was in charge

1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Makes Mahoneys decision to jump ship rather than play in League 1 even more bizzare 

I wonder if the £14k/week may have played a part?

22 hours ago, Sparks Rover said:

I wouldn't share anything with you. I find you rather insulting and a know nothing.

Utd encourage my players to play district and county football so I don't know what you are on about.  True, they do miss the odd game due to tournaments etc, but we get them for the important games.  

 

You shouldn't insult people who you don't know mate . A lot of great coaches do both town team football and academy football .its a tough standard and anybody that says otherwise is ignorant.

That was the answer I was expecting to be honest and I've done with you now to so like I said if nothing else it's been fun, 

You seem to think you're smarter than the average bear but really you're the one who knows nowt, the "I'm involved in elite football" quote you came out with previously said it all for me, youre involved in junior football so well done for that, but you also have an axe to grind against Rovers as I've stated before, so over and out Sparky thanks again for your amazing insite, into elite football haha

10 hours ago, Sparks Rover said:

This isnt correct at all.  Most academies allow their players to play town/county football, Utd actively encourage it. .Burnley actively discourages it......its generally down to parents if they want to pursue it.  The district I'm involved with have and always have had players at Everton, Rovers, Utd, Liverpool...and you go to watch Liverpool or Sefton schoolboys and they are all at Liverpool/Everton/Etc .....my current U12s has 1 x Everton,  1 x Utd , 1 x BWFC and 2 x pne..

This is kind of missing the point anyway as we are talking about boys who arent already identified....my overall point was that we don't scout these games generally in Lancashire....

Cheers.

 I know for a fact at United you have to get permission from the club to play in town/County football, the reasons are it interferes with the coaching programme at academy level and it means kids pick up bad habits from limited unqualified coaches, at these town/County teams who haven't really got more than a level 1 coaching badge who think they're Klopp, any kid who does this or is allowed to do it that's at United will damage their chance at United, its their way or no way, so if I was you I'd pass this onto your u12s players parents especially the one at United, by the way what's his name and where does he train in the week? 

So they discourage their kids from playing in it, I never said they wouldn't let a kid do it but they don't like it and 99% of the time get their way

You're not really up to speed with EPPP, so I'm going to leave it there, but if you could answer the two questions above that would be good

thanks for sharing you're knowledge of all things academy related it's been fun, if nothing else

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

shame. JRC play there

He's out too

1 hour ago, JoeH said:

Quick research:

Aymen Barkok - Fortuna Dusseldorf (Div 1) - 21 Years Old - Attacking Midfielder - Played 3 Games In The Bundesliga 1st Division This Season.

Niklas Schmidt - Werder Bremen but on loan currently at Vfl Onsabruck (Div 2) - 21 Years Old - Attacking Midfielder - 11 Games, 3 Goals & 1 Assists for Onsabruck this Season. Maybe cutting that loan short and heading to us for the final 6 months of the season. Worth a fair few bob but clearly not required at top league Bremen.

Gorkem Saglam - Vfl Bochum (Div 2) - 21 Years Old - Attacking Midfielder - Contract expiring in June 2020, so loan here less likely, unless its loan to get permanently on a free. Hasn't played a single game this season. Seems to have come from their academy. Did play 10 games last season, with no goal contributions or assists... hope it isn't this guy.

Florent Muslija - Hannover 96 - 21 Years Old - Attacking Midfielder - Played in 15 games for them this season, so seems the least likely for a loan deal. Hannover a good side in the second division though, and is young so never know.

 

Gut feeling says if its any of these lot then its Schmidt from Bremen.

 

I've just heard he's at Werder Bremen on loan currently elsewhere so your 2nd shout is sounding about right

5 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Given Mowbrays Boro connections that bothers me greatly i hope someone is keeping an eye on all this.

Just now, davulsukur said:

If JRC is a promising talent at Right back, it seems like a no brainer to start getting him involved. Nyambe is injury prone and as you say, Bennett is limited and needs replacing sooner rather than later.

Cup game against Birmingham seems like a good place to start and then get him involved in the league and see how he goes.

He doesn't need to start every game but we'll never know if he's ready for the first team unless he starts playing in it.

JRC is injured at the min so won't make the Birmingham game, he isnt as good defensively as Nyambe, but is far superior going forward, for him to be involved regular at right back would probably mean a change of system to play wing backs 3-5-2 or similar, it's not his favoured position, he is better in the middle of the park or wide or behind the striker, but is more than capable of doing a job at right back if and when needed

I have been told there's a possibility that an attacking mid/ No10 from Germany (21 years old) is being considered for a loan move he was being shown around Brockhall yesterday, I have nothing more than that, don't have name or from which club, a bit vague but we shall see

Just now, darrenrover said:

I see Jack Clarke and Nmecha have both signed for 'Boro.

Clarke would have been a good signing for us.

Has anyone heard any more on the rumours of Tosin going back to City?

He's not going back to City, the emergence of Eric Garcia has made sure of that

28 minutes ago, JoeH said:

How much better? JRC is a good player. Bringing in someone else's youth on loan, when we haven't given our own a go, and spent £4m on the academy, is pathetic from the club. Would be fuming if we went for this.

You are right, there is no point signing other clubs 23s especially when the 23s mentioned play in the division below ours

Mowbray rates JRC highly, but he hasn't given him an opportunity yet, I know he has a small injury at the minute which has kept him sidelined over Christmas which has been unfortunate as he may well have got an opportunity with injuries to other players

I have also heard that Middlesbrough are keen on taking JRC, they have asked about his availability in this window and if it was to happen it would be a permanent transfer, he is also wanted on loan by a host of L1 and L2 clubs, it will be interesting to see what happens when he's back to fitness, hopefully Mowbray gives him his chance

On 21/12/2019 at 12:54, Sparks Rover said:

Theres about 6 boys in the PNE u18/23s that come from South Ribble,  picked up in the Mid Lancs Colts/Central Lancs league around 9-13 and are going to be first team players....in my opinion,  Walker, Armer, Baxter, Huddart, Coulton(Scotland u18), Rodwell-Grant....there are a few preston boys in there too who I don't know.

Our scouting network is poor, slow to link up with local grassroots clubs  ..preston are very proactive in the schools district/town team area of youth football whereas Blackburn no longer have a schools town team at any age......this is something rovers could tap into but they don't.  When I was a lad loads of the apprentices played town team football in blackburn and around the region.

Since the introduction of EPP There's a reason no Cat 1 academy players are playing for their county and town teams....... The club has to give permission and they won't give permission, they don't feel any Cat. 1 academy player will benefit from it as usually the coaching is limited to say the least and is taken by junior football coaches, teachers etc who aren't that great (no offence intended to junior coaches, teachers etc) 

Cat 1 academy players will train 4/5 times a week with games on Sunday and a training session on a Saturday morning, this is when the majority of town/county teams play, this doesn't apply to Cat 2 and Cat 3 academy's as they don't train as often and permission isn't required this is why you will see Burnley (Cat 2) and Preston (Cat 3) players involved in this level of football, it is very rare to see a Cat 1 academy player in these games and is the reason no Rovers youngster plays for the town or county, if they had one to play for

So the level of town and county teams is well down on what they used to be and is why you have to go back to the time of Giggs, Scholes, Dunny etc to find elite players in these teams, it has nothing to do with scouting or hook ups with local teams etc, it's basically a non starter for Cat 1 players

13 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

The city u23s that we play against arent their best. They are all out playing mens football , not that sanitised rubbish that is the U23 league. 

Wrong again Mr Elite Football

They are the best, the best they have available, the others are on loan all over the place, but funnily enough non are in the Conference

50 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Yes you have misunderstood.  None came through the academy ...all signed as scholars 

And you're totally missing the point.... Without that Cat1 status none of the scholars that are singed from the bigger clubs would have gone to Rovers, they would have taken their chances at Burnley who until recently were a Cat3 academy playing games against Carlisle. Chester. Wrexham, etc etc so yeah Cat1 is worth it even if you haven't brought a player through from u9

Which by the way not many clubs do, there are a few but most clubs bring in their best or future top players via other academies by poaching the lower cat academies better players because the can do that, why? Because they are cat 1 academy

 Not bad reasons to have a Cat1 academy I think