3 hours ago, Gav said:

I never bought a Tesla for the looks, but I think you're being harsh Armchair. 

Blistering pace, plenty of gadgets, loads of cabin and boot space + around 280 miles between charges, whats not to like!

Its all a matter of opinions of course.

I just find "Tesla" an absolute turn off to be honest, Probably for the same reasons I've never owned an "Apple" product(for example 25% of the cost is usually just for the brand name)

On 28/01/2020 at 18:22, Claytons Left Boot said:

The points above are the reason why we’re past the point of no return. As individuals, we are gradually getting there with our awareness of the problems but it’s got to come from the top. Must come from governments. If governments renege on their promises, they have to be pushed by the people. Procedures have to be put in place such as limitations on each persons/families’ air journeys per annum, number of cars per household, number of children per household and so on. This, however, all becomes irrelevant to a large degree if countries like China (contributes to 29% to world CO2 emissions), the US and Russia pay the problem lip service. It’s more serious than most folk realise and it’s not going away.

Number of children per household! Bloody hell. I was watching Michael Palins latest documentary about Nigeria yesterday and honestly it's absolutely mind blowing how many children people have over their(commonly between 5-20! Per wife, but a man can have more than one wife...) I think they estimate Nigerias population alone is heading for around the half a 500 million mark. 

It's country's like that that make all our attempts at being more environmentally friendly seem futile

1 hour ago, ABBEY said:

REMINDS ME OF VE DAY...

HOPE WE HAVE THE BOTTLE

Need some BIG performances today 

10 hours ago, Upside Down said:

One of the best games I've ever seen.

Back when Ewood was absolutely buzzing.

We played some great football that year under Roy! And after years of injuries Gallagher really came good and was a different class. 

Shame it all went to 💩 the following season

3 hours ago, bluebruce said:

Depends what you look for in your car really. I agree, I'm not a fan of how Teslas look for the most part, although the Roadster is quite nice, and the Highland is a decent aesthetic improvement for the Model 3. When I drive behind Teslas, I hate how they look with that wide bottom and slimmer top section.

That said, I'm probably the opposite to you in that they're potentially the only EV I'd consider. I'm more interested in a car that lasts well, drives well, gets me from A to B best, etc. The looks are less important for me, though nice to have. They also get cheaper access to the super chargers, although that's less of a concern when you're minted. Tesla batteries seem to have the best track record for low degradation though, and for safety, and I get the impression most legacy car makers haven't mastered this yet, or at least not been on the road long enough to be sure.

If looks are more your thing, there are plenty of quite nice looking EVs. I thought the Xiaomi (yes the phone company) SU7 recently released in China is very slick, if a slightly derivative design, and with good specs. But apparently they keep crashing! I think the Lucid Air is a lovely, more mature car than the Teslas, with similar or even better specs, but again not out in the UK yet. I like how some of the BYD cars look. Reckon the new Renault 5 will be popular with those who like small hatchbacks.

Like you say, money is a huge concern unless you're rich enough that it isn't, but there are some great deals to be had on the used market. In time, it will all improve - looks, affordability, the used market etc. Reckon I'm a good 3-5 years from being able to replace my banger with one!

 

Normally looks aren't my concern at all when looking for a new (or very used! In my case 😂)  practicality and reliability are my priorities everytime(which again is why I wouldn't even consider an ev right now) I just meant that if I did have money to burn and could afford something more luxurious then a mustang would be my option, although if I was wealthy my main car would be a big diesel Ford Ranger (sorry 🤷‍♂️😅 if got a lot of dogs and do a lot of odd jobs) the electric mustang would just be for when i fancy cruising about in something nice. 

P. S Yes I do like a ford, even if they aren't what they used to be 😞

On 18/04/2024 at 18:06, bluebruce said:

It's not that much of an elephant in the room, although it may have been more of one when you posted this 2 years ago.

The price of lithium has recently been shooting down, as more reserves are found, and the processes and infrastructure improve. But most crucially, these batteries can be recycled pretty much entirely and these methods will improve too. In fact even a dead battery can fetch a nice chunk of change for this use. Once there are enough in circulation, you won't need to extract much lithium anymore, as you'll have almost a closed loop system.

There is more than enough lithium in the world to provide for this loop. You'll find different figures of course as it depends how they're measured etc, but a quick google suggests there are between 14-22 million tons of known lithium that can be mined with current methods, and '(depending on who you ask) the amount of lithium needed to meet current goals is somewhere between 0.5 and 1.3 million tons'.

There are environmental issues with the mining, yes, but there are environmental issues with mining the materials for combustion engines too, and far greater environmental issues with mining fossil fuels. From memory (I could have the number wrong) you will make up the production emissions of an EV in the first 10,000 miles or so typically, as you're not using fossil fuels. Of course this depends partially on the source of the electricity you're using, but we're getting increasingly green with our grid energy and you can use providers like Octopus who source their electricity renewably (granted I imagine you probably just receive the same electricity anyway, but Ocotupus will buy more green energy as a result and it will balance out in some complex offsetting that encourages more renewables to be built). Even if you use entirely fossil fuel sourced electricity, you'll still end up producing less emissions than you would have with fossil fuels, recouping the production difference in about 30k or 40k miles I think it was (a little while since I read it, sorry).

There are also nascent battery technologies developing. Sodium ion batteries are already in some Chinese production EVs. These are much cheaper as they don't use lithium but basically use salt. They're less efficient as they're heavier, but they're very well suited for city driving (ie people who don't really do long trips anyway but primarily commute relatively short distances in cities). Their price will also attract people, and techs like this and other non-lithium batteries will reduce the strain on lithium demands, keeping prices and resource extraction down.

Other technological improvements can have this effect on reducing lithium demands and other rare earth metals. More efficient motors that are constantly developing, along with all the other tech and efficiency improvements in these cars. Semi solid state and solid state batteries are a big one too. Nobody has quite mastered the latter yet in terms of making it production-ready, but semi solid state batteries are coming now. They are safer (already an overstated issue in the better batteries) and much more efficient. This means a semi solid state lithium battery can be a lot lighter. So you can either keep the same weight of battery and get much more range out of it, or as some will do, make the battery far lighter and get the same range, meaning less lithium used.

Apologies, sort of, looking into all these technologies has become a bit of an obsession for me in the last few months. Not sure why, I certainly can't afford an EV yet!

Not gonna lie I saw one of the latest Electric Ford Mustangs the other day🤤🤤 if I was rich and had money to burn I definitely would hahaha

But the current standard everyday EVs just do nothing for me and I wouldn’t touch Tesla with a barge pole (blandest most generic looking cars around to my eyes) 

For me at this current time though I still just see them as expensive gadgets mainly for those that just have to have the latest thing!

Any confirmation that we did actually have a future sell on clause in the deal with palace? 

I'm sure i remember 1 or 2 ITKers on here say that we didn't. And that it was pretty much just all cash upfront and maybe just a few mill in apearance related fees

9 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/27303565/blackburn-rovers-john-ruddy-transfer-birmingham/#Echobox=1713033602

I think he could be just what we need, Wahlstadt and the young gks coming through would benfit from having a quality experienced gk to learn from and Pears is still shite for me, the occasional once in a blue moon good performance won't change that! 

On a short term deal signing Ruddy on a free would be a no brainer for me

3 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Probably mentioned earlier but we are the first away team to win at Elland Road this season.

👊

Just makes me wonder why we bottled it so badly midweek when we've generally been much more resolute under Eustace. Hopefully it was just a bad day at the office and we'll just keep on picking up points now without anymore horrorshows

Chuffing bollox

I'm sure half this team suffer from bipolar syndrome. 

12 hours ago, tomphil said:

Whilst most would welcome Tugay with open arms t a role like this everything under this lot is tainted.

Why now and why him ?  Biggest name they could find who they'll throw a fortune we haven't got and he'll pitch up for a while then quietly disappear after the window dressing has been done.

Why haven't we had one of these before ?

Closest thing probably the late (not so great)Shebby Singh

4 hours ago, arbitro said:

We've found a buyer. 😄

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/doctor-who-matt-smith-blackburn-32503334

He reckons rovers could be bought for 20 million. I think that shows how out of touch with the club(and football in general) he really is😅

12 hours ago, Polky said:

Would be good to see him back involved with the club.

Hopefully they get MGP back in a similar role.

I'm hoping MGP moves into coaching, he'd be a great example of an absolute pro for the younger lads to be inspired by

I recall @glen9mullan saying Tugay wouldn't even take part in a charity game unless he was paid well and treat like royalty... So i doubt he'd take a role like this unless he was being offered a small fortune

Unless there is more to the role than the random tweets imply then it does all seem pretty pointless and just a deflectory tactic as others here have said

1 hour ago, 47er said:

Branthwaite a strange one. Has kicked on a lot since his spell with us where he looked very ordinary.

Poveda wasn't a dud but he wasn't consistent.

Poveda is being released in the summer i think. 

Started well for us and looked dangerous until his bad injury but it seems his career regressed a bit since the injury

The Raya to arsenal deal!

Are they contractually commited to buy him(at the agreed price)? 

I know he's been getting a lot of game time but arsenal fans don't seem very convinced by him, especially at the price they could be paying. 

Just wondering if Arsenal might just end up saying thanks, but no thanks! And choose to invest all the doe in a different keeper

Which would obviously leave us still forever waiting for that elusive raya windfall😅 (which would only end up being spent to pay for the matchday stewards underpants anyway) 

14 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

So like I said a sin against fandom. The ‘principle’ sin.

Yeah still think I’d take the 2k if it’s all the same.

Good for you. 

That's officially known as a waggotesque mindset I believe 

10 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Does make me laugh, proper pearl clutching.

’I best not win that 2k because I’ll have committed a sin against fandom’

It's a matter of principle not morals (and its just kind of slimy) 

Can we please now just stick with a back 4. non of this 3 at the back sheiite.

Blackburn in my lifetime have only ever done consistently well when we've had a solid back 4.

1 hour ago, K-Hod said:

Afraid not. We got rid of it before, as people were using it to troll each other….

😂😂😂

Ive been busy messing about under the car for the last few hours 😣 take it we won then 😁😁😁🎉🎉

Try justifying it all you like, it's still pathetic to bet against your own team. There's literally millions of other bets you could put on other things.

9 minutes ago, lraC said:

Stick £70 on now whilst we are 7/2 (Paddy power) to go down and it will be free.

I absolutely despise anybody that bets against their own club in anyway. Fk8n degenerates

Mods!!!

Any chance of a laughing emoji to go with the 👍 👎 

Some little crackers being posted today 😄

8 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

When did we last score a goal with a shot from distance ?

Travis scored a belter at the start of last season