You could well be right, @Mattyblue . The estimating may well have reached its demise.

Season Ticket Estimate

Latest: 8,405 (+208)

Previous Updates
Tuesday 12th July 2022: 8,197 (+19)
Monday 11th July 2022: 8,178 (+11)
Sunday 10th July 2022: 8,167 (+9)
Saturday 9th July 2022: 8,158 (+22)
Friday 8th July 2022: 8,136 (+15)
Thursday 7th July 2022: 8,121 (+72)
Wednesday 6th July 2022: -
Tuesday 5th July 2022: -
Monday 4th July 2022: 8,049 (+20)
Sunday 3rd July 2022: 8,029 (+12)
Saturday 2nd July 2022: 8,017 (+40)
Friday 1st July 2022: 7,977 (+297)
Thursday 30th June 2022: 7,680 (+14)
Wednesday 29th June: 7,666 (+36)
Tuesday 28th June 2022: 7,630 (+20)
Monday 27th June 2022: 7,610 (+23)
Sunday 26th June 2022: 7,587 (+13)
Saturday 25th June 2022: 7,574 (+26)
Friday 24th June 2022: 7,548 (+37)
Thursday 23rd June 2022: 7,511 (+84)
Wednesday 22nd June: 7,427 (+2)
Tuesday 21st June: 7,425 (-1)
Monday 20th June: 7,426 (+221)
Sunday 19th June 2022: 7,205 (+15)
Saturday 18th June 2022: 7,190 (+108)
Friday 17th June 2022: 7,082 (+8)
Thursday 16th June 2022: 7,074 (+39)
Wednesday 15th June 2022: 7,035 (first count)

Notes & Disclaimers

• This is an estimate based on visibility of true seat availability in the ticketing seat map.
• (+xx) represents the number of season tickets sold since the previous estimate (usually 24 hours).
• 159 unavailable seats in W01 are not saleable and therefore excluded from the estimate.
• A seat is marked as unavailable for up to 28 minutes when added to the basket. It is not possible to exclude these from the estimate.

Season Ticket Estimate

Latest: 8,197 (+19)

Previous Updates
Monday 11th July 2022: 8,178 (+11)
Sunday 10th July 2022: 8,167 (+9)
Saturday 9th July 2022: 8,158 (+22)
Friday 8th July 2022: 8,136 (+15)
Thursday 7th July 2022: 8,121 (+72)
Wednesday 6th July 2022: -
Tuesday 5th July 2022: -
Monday 4th July 2022: 8,049 (+20)
Sunday 3rd July 2022: 8,029 (+12)
Saturday 2nd July 2022: 8,017 (+40)
Friday 1st July 2022: 7,977 (+297)
Thursday 30th June 2022: 7,680 (+14)
Wednesday 29th June: 7,666 (+36)
Tuesday 28th June 2022: 7,630 (+20)
Monday 27th June 2022: 7,610 (+23)
Sunday 26th June 2022: 7,587 (+13)
Saturday 25th June 2022: 7,574 (+26)
Friday 24th June 2022: 7,548 (+37)
Thursday 23rd June 2022: 7,511 (+84)
Wednesday 22nd June: 7,427 (+2)
Tuesday 21st June: 7,425 (-1)
Monday 20th June: 7,426 (+221)
Sunday 19th June 2022: 7,205 (+15)
Saturday 18th June 2022: 7,190 (+108)
Friday 17th June 2022: 7,082 (+8)
Thursday 16th June 2022: 7,074 (+39)
Wednesday 15th June 2022: 7,035 (first count)

Notes & Disclaimers

• This is an estimate based on visibility of true seat availability in the ticketing seat map.
• (+xx) represents the number of season tickets sold since the previous estimate (usually 24 hours).
• 159 unavailable seats in W01 are not saleable and therefore excluded from the estimate.
• A seat is marked as unavailable for up to 28 minutes when added to the basket. It is not possible to exclude these from the estimate.

Season Ticket Estimate

Latest: 8,178 (+11)

Previous Updates
Sunday 10th July 2022: 8,167 (+9)
Saturday 9th July 2022: 8,158 (+22)
Friday 8th July 2022: 8,136 (+15)
Thursday 7th July 2022: 8,121 (+72)
Wednesday 6th July 2022: -
Tuesday 5th July 2022: -
Monday 4th July 2022: 8,049 (+20)
Sunday 3rd July 2022: 8,029 (+12)
Saturday 2nd July 2022: 8,017 (+40)
Friday 1st July 2022: 7,977 (+297)
Thursday 30th June 2022: 7,680 (+14)
Wednesday 29th June: 7,666 (+36)
Tuesday 28th June 2022: 7,630 (+20)
Monday 27th June 2022: 7,610 (+23)
Sunday 26th June 2022: 7,587 (+13)
Saturday 25th June 2022: 7,574 (+26)
Friday 24th June 2022: 7,548 (+37)
Thursday 23rd June 2022: 7,511 (+84)
Wednesday 22nd June: 7,427 (+2)
Tuesday 21st June: 7,425 (-1)
Monday 20th June: 7,426 (+221)
Sunday 19th June 2022: 7,205 (+15)
Saturday 18th June 2022: 7,190 (+108)
Friday 17th June 2022: 7,082 (+8)
Thursday 16th June 2022: 7,074 (+39)
Wednesday 15th June 2022: 7,035 (first count)

Notes & Disclaimers

• This is an estimate based on visibility of true seat availability in the ticketing seat map.
• (+xx) represents the number of season tickets sold since the previous estimate (usually 24 hours).
• 159 unavailable seats in W01 are not saleable and therefore excluded from the estimate.
• A seat is marked as unavailable for up to 28 minutes when added to the basket. It is not possible to exclude these from the estimate.

Season Ticket Estimate

Latest: 8,167 (+9)

Previous Updates
Saturday 9th July 2022: 8,158 (+22)
Friday 8th July 2022: 8,136 (+15)
Thursday 7th July 2022: 8,121 (+72)
Wednesday 6th July 2022: -
Tuesday 5th July 2022: -
Monday 4th July 2022: 8,049 (+20)
Sunday 3rd July 2022: 8,029 (+12)
Saturday 2nd July 2022: 8,017 (+40)
Friday 1st July 2022: 7,977 (+297)
Thursday 30th June 2022: 7,680 (+14)
Wednesday 29th June: 7,666 (+36)
Tuesday 28th June 2022: 7,630 (+20)
Monday 27th June 2022: 7,610 (+23)
Sunday 26th June 2022: 7,587 (+13)
Saturday 25th June 2022: 7,574 (+26)
Friday 24th June 2022: 7,548 (+37)
Thursday 23rd June 2022: 7,511 (+84)
Wednesday 22nd June: 7,427 (+2)
Tuesday 21st June: 7,425 (-1)
Monday 20th June: 7,426 (+221)
Sunday 19th June 2022: 7,205 (+15)
Saturday 18th June 2022: 7,190 (+108)
Friday 17th June 2022: 7,082 (+8)
Thursday 16th June 2022: 7,074 (+39)
Wednesday 15th June 2022: 7,035 (first count)

Notes & Disclaimers

• This is an estimate based on visibility of true seat availability in the ticketing seat map.
• (+xx) represents the number of season tickets sold since the previous estimate (usually 24 hours).
• 159 unavailable seats in W01 are not saleable and therefore excluded from the estimate.
• A seat is marked as unavailable for up to 28 minutes when added to the basket. It is not possible to exclude these from the estimate.

Season Ticket Estimate

Latest: 8,158 (+22)

Previous Updates
Friday 8th July 2022: 8,136 (+15)
Thursday 7th July 2022: 8,121 (+72)
Wednesday 6th July 2022: -
Tuesday 5th July 2022: -
Monday 4th July 2022: 8,049 (+20)
Sunday 3rd July 2022: 8,029 (+12)
Saturday 2nd July 2022: 8,017 (+40)
Friday 1st July 2022: 7,977 (+297)
Thursday 30th June 2022: 7,680 (+14)
Wednesday 29th June: 7,666 (+36)
Tuesday 28th June 2022: 7,630 (+20)
Monday 27th June 2022: 7,610 (+23)
Sunday 26th June 2022: 7,587 (+13)
Saturday 25th June 2022: 7,574 (+26)
Friday 24th June 2022: 7,548 (+37)
Thursday 23rd June 2022: 7,511 (+84)
Wednesday 22nd June: 7,427 (+2)
Tuesday 21st June: 7,425 (-1)
Monday 20th June: 7,426 (+221)
Sunday 19th June 2022: 7,205 (+15)
Saturday 18th June 2022: 7,190 (+108)
Friday 17th June 2022: 7,082 (+8)
Thursday 16th June 2022: 7,074 (+39)
Wednesday 15th June 2022: 7,035 (first count)

Notes & Disclaimers

• This is an estimate based on visibility of true seat availability in the ticketing seat map.
• (+xx) represents the number of season tickets sold since the previous estimate (usually 24 hours).
• 159 unavailable seats in W01 are not saleable and therefore excluded from the estimate.
• A seat is marked as unavailable for up to 28 minutes when added to the basket. It is not possible to exclude these from the estimate.

Season Ticket Estimate

Latest: 8,136 (+15)

Previous Updates
Thursday 7th July 2022: 8,121 (+72)
Wednesday 6th July 2022: -
Tuesday 5th July 2022: -
Monday 4th July 2022: 8,049 (+20)
Sunday 3rd July 2022: 8,029 (+12)
Saturday 2nd July 2022: 8,017 (+40)
Friday 1st July 2022: 7,977 (+297)
Thursday 30th June 2022: 7,680 (+14)
Wednesday 29th June: 7,666 (+36)
Tuesday 28th June 2022: 7,630 (+20)
Monday 27th June 2022: 7,610 (+23)
Sunday 26th June 2022: 7,587 (+13)
Saturday 25th June 2022: 7,574 (+26)
Friday 24th June 2022: 7,548 (+37)
Thursday 23rd June 2022: 7,511 (+84)
Wednesday 22nd June: 7,427 (+2)
Tuesday 21st June: 7,425 (-1)
Monday 20th June: 7,426 (+221)
Sunday 19th June 2022: 7,205 (+15)
Saturday 18th June 2022: 7,190 (+108)
Friday 17th June 2022: 7,082 (+8)
Thursday 16th June 2022: 7,074 (+39)
Wednesday 15th June 2022: 7,035 (first count)

Notes & Disclaimers

• This is an estimate based on visibility of true seat availability in the ticketing seat map.
• (+xx) represents the number of season tickets sold since the previous estimate (usually 24 hours).
• 159 unavailable seats in W01 are not saleable and therefore excluded from the estimate.
• A seat is marked as unavailable for up to 28 minutes when added to the basket. It is not possible to exclude these from the estimate.

I wasn't able to run counts in the last couple of days due to a couple of events at my side, but counts should resume normally going forward.

Season Ticket Estimate

Latest: 8,121 (+72)

Previous Updates
Wednesday 6th July 2022: -
Tuesday 5th July 2022: -
Monday 4th July 2022: 8,049 (+20)
Sunday 3rd July 2022: 8,029 (+12)
Saturday 2nd July 2022: 8,017 (+40)
Friday 1st July 2022: 7,977 (+297)
Thursday 30th June 2022: 7,680 (+14)
Wednesday 29th June: 7,666 (+36)
Tuesday 28th June 2022: 7,630 (+20)
Monday 27th June 2022: 7,610 (+23)
Sunday 26th June 2022: 7,587 (+13)
Saturday 25th June 2022: 7,574 (+26)
Friday 24th June 2022: 7,548 (+37)
Thursday 23rd June 2022: 7,511 (+84)
Wednesday 22nd June: 7,427 (+2)
Tuesday 21st June: 7,425 (-1)
Monday 20th June: 7,426 (+221)
Sunday 19th June 2022: 7,205 (+15)
Saturday 18th June 2022: 7,190 (+108)
Friday 17th June 2022: 7,082 (+8)
Thursday 16th June 2022: 7,074 (+39)
Wednesday 15th June 2022: 7,035 (first count)

Notes & Disclaimers

• This is an estimate based on visibility of true seat availability in the ticketing seat map.
• (+xx) represents the number of season tickets sold since the previous estimate (usually 24 hours).
• 159 unavailable seats in W01 are not saleable and therefore excluded from the estimate.
• A seat is marked as unavailable for up to 28 minutes when added to the basket. It is not possible to exclude these from the estimate.

Season Ticket Estimate

Latest: 8,049 (+20)

Previous Updates
Sunday 3rd July 2022: 8,029 (+12)
Saturday 2nd July 2022: 8,017 (+40)
Friday 1st July 2022: 7,977 (+297)
Thursday 30th June 2022: 7,680 (+14)
Wednesday 29th June: 7,666 (+36)
Tuesday 28th June 2022: 7,630 (+20)
Monday 27th June 2022: 7,610 (+23)
Sunday 26th June 2022: 7,587 (+13)
Saturday 25th June 2022: 7,574 (+26)
Friday 24th June 2022: 7,548 (+37)
Thursday 23rd June 2022: 7,511 (+84)
Wednesday 22nd June: 7,427 (+2)
Tuesday 21st June: 7,425 (-1)
Monday 20th June: 7,426 (+221)
Sunday 19th June 2022: 7,205 (+15)
Saturday 18th June 2022: 7,190 (+108)
Friday 17th June 2022: 7,082 (+8)
Thursday 16th June 2022: 7,074 (+39)
Wednesday 15th June 2022: 7,035 (first count)

Notes & Disclaimers

• This is an estimate based on visibility of true seat availability in the ticketing seat map.
• (+xx) represents the number of season tickets sold since the previous estimate (usually 24 hours).
• 159 unavailable seats in W01 are not saleable and therefore excluded from the estimate.
• A seat is marked as unavailable for up to 28 minutes when added to the basket. It is not possible to exclude these from the estimate.

Season Ticket Estimate

Latest: 8,029 (+12)

Previous Updates
Saturday 2nd July 2022: 8,017 (+40)
Friday 1st July 2022: 7,977 (+297)
Thursday 30th June 2022: 7,680 (+14)
Wednesday 29th June: 7,666 (+36)
Tuesday 28th June 2022: 7,630 (+20)
Monday 27th June 2022: 7,610 (+23)
Sunday 26th June 2022: 7,587 (+13)
Saturday 25th June 2022: 7,574 (+26)
Friday 24th June 2022: 7,548 (+37)
Thursday 23rd June 2022: 7,511 (+84)
Wednesday 22nd June: 7,427 (+2)
Tuesday 21st June: 7,425 (-1)
Monday 20th June: 7,426 (+221)
Sunday 19th June 2022: 7,205 (+15)
Saturday 18th June 2022: 7,190 (+108)
Friday 17th June 2022: 7,082 (+8)
Thursday 16th June 2022: 7,074 (+39)
Wednesday 15th June 2022: 7,035 (first count)

Notes & Disclaimers

• This is an estimate based on visibility of true seat availability in the ticketing seat map.
• (+xx) represents the number of season tickets sold since the previous estimate (usually 24 hours).
• 159 unavailable seats in W01 are not saleable and therefore excluded from the estimate.
• A seat is marked as unavailable for up to 28 minutes when added to the basket. It is not possible to exclude these from the estimate.

1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

I find it amazing that nearly 350 people have bought since the price went up by £30.

1 hour ago, Mattyblue said:

I think 297 of that 350 was existing ST holders renewing before the deadline (and price hike).

24 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

On that night there was 7680 bought, and 24 hours later there was a 297 spike which was the first day of the price rise.

On Friday morning, there were 224 unavailable seats from the 2,256 "non-renewers" that I had been deducting.

By the evening, there were an additional 73 unavailable seats. Add last night's 40, that's ~113 since the loyalty scheme ended. That's more than double the average I'd been getting, but I think it's the payday boost.

I run the counts at roughly 10pm.

Season Ticket Estimate

Latest: 8,017 (+40)

Previous Updates
Friday 1st July 2022: 7,977 (+297)
Thursday 30th June 2022: 7,680 (+14)
Wednesday 29th June: 7,666 (+36)
Tuesday 28th June 2022: 7,630 (+20)
Monday 27th June 2022: 7,610 (+23)
Sunday 26th June 2022: 7,587 (+13)
Saturday 25th June 2022: 7,574 (+26)
Friday 24th June 2022: 7,548 (+37)
Thursday 23rd June 2022: 7,511 (+84)
Wednesday 22nd June: 7,427 (+2)
Tuesday 21st June: 7,425 (-1)
Monday 20th June: 7,426 (+221)
Sunday 19th June 2022: 7,205 (+15)
Saturday 18th June 2022: 7,190 (+108)
Friday 17th June 2022: 7,082 (+8)
Thursday 16th June 2022: 7,074 (+39)
Wednesday 15th June 2022: 7,035 (first count)

Notes & Disclaimers

• This is an estimate based on visibility of true seat availability in the ticketing seat map.
• (+xx) represents the number of season tickets sold since the previous estimate (usually 24 hours).
• 159 unavailable seats in W01 are not saleable and therefore excluded from the estimate.
• A seat is marked as unavailable for up to 28 minutes when added to the basket. It is not possible to exclude these from the estimate.

24 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

That's the bit I doubt, I think it's too big a number.

Either way, we're roughly where we were last season.

Yes, I just want to reiterate that they are assumptions. I may well be totally wrong that 200-300 renewed in the second loyalty scheme. It's possible that more did so, and were included in the daily counts if they switched seats, for example. I couldn't work out the behaviour of the seat map in that regard.

However, considering we sold just shy of 7,000 by last season's opener, we're 1,000 ahead of that with another four weeks to go. It's not the amount we were hoping for with JDT coming in, but considering the prices, the supporters have done well to see us at 8K so far.

Just now, damo100 said:

So based from this we can now say over 2k of our ST holders didn't renew?

Take the assumptions with a pinch of salt. They are just that - assumptions.

Having said that, we are now in "real" territory as far as the numbers go. No more stipulations or exceptions. Unless the loyalty scheme is reinstated again. At which point I'll need a psychiatrist.

Season Ticket Estimate

Latest: 7,977 (+297)

Previous Updates
Thursday 30th June 2022: 7,680 (+14)
Wednesday 29th June: 7,666 (+36)
Tuesday 28th June 2022: 7,630 (+20)
Monday 27th June 2022: 7,610 (+23)
Sunday 26th June 2022: 7,587 (+13)
Saturday 25th June 2022: 7,574 (+26)
Friday 24th June 2022: 7,548 (+37)
Thursday 23rd June 2022: 7,511 (+84)
Wednesday 22nd June: 7,427 (+2)
Tuesday 21st June: 7,425 (-1)
Monday 20th June: 7,426 (+221)
Sunday 19th June 2022: 7,205 (+15)
Saturday 18th June 2022: 7,190 (+108)
Friday 17th June 2022: 7,082 (+8)
Thursday 16th June 2022: 7,074 (+39)
Wednesday 15th June 2022: 7,035 (first count)

Notes & Disclaimers

• This is an estimate based on visibility of true seat availability in the ticketing seat map.
• (+xx) represents the number of season tickets sold since the previous estimate (usually 24 hours).
• 159 unavailable seats in W01 are not saleable and therefore excluded from the estimate.
• A seat is marked as unavailable for up to 28 minutes when added to the basket. It is not possible to exclude these from the estimate.

@JHRover, unless I'm mistaken, I believe @Tom posted that he couldn't renew his seat because it had been taken by somebody in between the two loyalty scheme periods. I don't think the club were prepared to move people around that had chosen their seats during that time.

I think the club might have also stated something like this on the website.

Regarding yesterday's article about the deadline from the club, they used the term "close of play". I'm not sure what that means, i.e., 17:00 on the day, or midnight, or something else. They should have posted the exact time, really, unless I missed it.

I doubt you'll be able to get your seat if it was taken before the second loyalty scheme period, but maybe speaking to the ticket office could allow you to get the loyalty scheme renewal price, if not the seat you had.

The 2,256 seats now have true visibility of availability. ~7,904 season tickets have been sold, including those that renewed during the loyalty scheme period. The extended loyalty scheme gave ~224 renewals, but possibly more if previous counts included those that renewed but switch seats.

I was hoping for a much bigger boost, but here are some things to consider:

• Some good signings should give some sort of boost;
• I don't have a picture of sales patterns, so it's possible that a sales boost comes as the season draws closer and it's more at the forefront of people's minds;
• Some might be waiting for July's pay packet to land before being able to purchase;
• I assume there will be a period after the season starts where supporters can buy and get reimbursed for any matches they missed, so sales continue after the season starts.

We're averaging ~26 season ticket sales per day. If that remains the case, it means a projection of ~8,658 before our first home game of the season.

I will do the usual update tonight.

Season Ticket Estimate

Latest: 7,680 (+14)

Previous Updates
Wednesday 29th June: 7,666 (+36)
Tuesday 28th June 2022: 7,630 (+20)
Monday 27th June 2022: 7,610 (+23)
Sunday 26th June 2022: 7,587 (+13)
Saturday 25th June 2022: 7,574 (+26)
Friday 24th June 2022: 7,548 (+37)
Thursday 23rd June 2022: 7,511 (+84)
Wednesday 22nd June: 7,427 (+2)
Tuesday 21st June: 7,425 (-1)
Monday 20th June: 7,426 (+221)
Sunday 19th June 2022: 7,205 (+15)
Saturday 18th June 2022: 7,190 (+108)
Friday 17th June 2022: 7,082 (+8)
Thursday 16th June 2022: 7,074 (+39)
Wednesday 15th June 2022: 7,035 (first count)

Notes & Disclaimers

• This is an estimate based on visibility of true seat availability in the ticketing seat map.
• (+xx) represents the number of season tickets sold since the previous estimate (usually 24 hours).
• 159 unavailable seats in W01 are not saleable and therefore excluded from the estimate.
• A seat is marked as unavailable for up to 28 minutes when added to the basket. It is not possible to exclude these from the estimate.
• ~2,256 unavailable seats are reserved for last season's non-renewers until 30th June. These are excluded from the estimate until visibility of true seat availability returns.

Season Ticket Estimate

Latest: 7,666 (+36)

Previous Updates
Tuesday 28th June 2022: 7,630 (+20)
Monday 27th June 2022: 7,610 (+23)
Sunday 26th June 2022: 7,587 (+13)
Saturday 25th June 2022: 7,574 (+26)
Friday 24th June 2022: 7,548 (+37)
Thursday 23rd June 2022: 7,511 (+84)
Wednesday 22nd June: 7,427 (+2)
Tuesday 21st June: 7,425 (-1)
Monday 20th June: 7,426 (+221)
Sunday 19th June 2022: 7,205 (+15)
Saturday 18th June 2022: 7,190 (+108)
Friday 17th June 2022: 7,082 (+8)
Thursday 16th June 2022: 7,074 (+39)
Wednesday 15th June 2022: 7,035 (first count)

Notes & Disclaimers

• This is an estimate based on visibility of true seat availability in the ticketing seat map.
• (+xx) represents the number of season tickets sold since the previous estimate (usually 24 hours).
• 159 unavailable seats in W01 are not saleable and therefore excluded from the estimate.
• A seat is marked as unavailable for up to 28 minutes when added to the basket. It is not possible to exclude these from the estimate.
• ~2,256 unavailable seats are reserved for last season's non-renewers until 30th June. These are excluded from the estimate until visibility of true seat availability returns.

Season Ticket Estimate

Latest: 7,630 (+20)

Previous Updates
Monday 27th June 2022: 7,610 (+23)
Sunday 26th June 2022: 7,587 (+13)
Saturday 25th June 2022: 7,574 (+26)
Friday 24th June 2022: 7,548 (+37)
Thursday 23rd June 2022: 7,511 (+84)
Wednesday 22nd June: 7,427 (+2)
Tuesday 21st June: 7,425 (-1)
Monday 20th June: 7,426 (+221)
Sunday 19th June 2022: 7,205 (+15)
Saturday 18th June 2022: 7,190 (+108)
Friday 17th June 2022: 7,082 (+8)
Thursday 16th June 2022: 7,074 (+39)
Wednesday 15th June 2022: 7,035 (first count)

Notes & Disclaimers

• This is an estimate based on visibility of true seat availability in the ticketing seat map.
• (+xx) represents the number of season tickets sold since the previous estimate (usually 24 hours).
• 159 unavailable seats in W01 are not saleable and therefore excluded from the estimate.
• A seat is marked as unavailable for up to 28 minutes when added to the basket. It is not possible to exclude these from the estimate.
• ~2,256 unavailable seats are reserved for last season's non-renewers until 30th June. These are excluded from the estimate until visibility of true seat availability returns.

13 minutes ago, Hasta said:

I guess the question is had my original seat been greyed out at the start of phase 2 as I hadn’t renewed when they got blocked off again, and then I did renew sat elsewhere, would it still be greyed out?

I'm not sure because I can't test the behaviour. You would think that it would ungrey itself and make itself available, but I don't know if the system clocks onto it or not. I suppose it will become irrelevant after a few days. It might have been simpler to stop counting until then. 🙃

Just now, Wheelton Blue said:

In summary then:

- we have sold 7,610 STs to date (including both renewals and new)

- we have a run rate of 26.5 new sales per day

- there are potentially 2,256 renewals not yet taken

Yes. So the 7,610 includes all new sales to date, and all season ticket renewals from before 17th June when the loyalty scheme was reinstated.

The 2,256 is the number of seats that were immediately marked as "unavailable" on 17th June, which I assume is a case of earmarking those seats for non-rewers during the new loyalty scheme period. I can't think what else it could be, and I doubt very much we sold 2,256 season tickets in the space of a couple of hours! So, right now, I can't tell if all 2,256 have renewed, or 0 have renewed. They're going to remain "unavailable" until after 30th June regardless of their state of sale.

At the moment, I'm actually counting 10,025 "unavailable" seats in total (excluding the whole DE and BBE upper tier, of course). 159 of those "unavailable" seats are canvassed-off in W01, and therefore not saleable, so that gets deducted. I'm also deducting the 2,256 non-renewers due to the reason mentioned above, i.e., lack of true visibility of the availability of those seats.

At some point after 30th June, the club will probably take the system down again for an hour or two, and will stop earmarking those 2,256 seats as "unavailable". At that point, I can stop deducting the 2,256.

20 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Might be a daft question, but does this take into account folk who have moved seats? So if someone who hasn't renewed yet moves to a new seat today does there old one become available on the planner or does that stay grayed out until the deadline, i would have thought the former but who knows with that system. 

I think that's exactly what happens. So there will be a number of those, I gather, and it's possible they are included in what I'm considering as "new" season ticket holders, but it's hard to tell at the moment.

Once this 2,256 business is out of the way (Friday?), all this assumption stuff will be irrelevant. Just causes some slight complications in the meantime, so best to exclude it entirely.

Just now, Wheelton Blue said:

@goozburgerPresumably the current run rate of 26.5 includes both renewals and new sales?

No. Just new seats. The current renewals I can't include because they can't be counted, basically.