6 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Not really. Your thinking it’s some guy whose job it is to come up with brochures and emails. Good marketing is also about identifying your consumer, your competitors consumer and your products price / value in the marketplace. 

Maybe I’m biased by having been VP Marketing for a global brand…

You think the marketing guy at Rovers gets to make any decisions of significance??

13 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

So having issues with the commercial side of the club is because I ‘prefer self flagellation’? 

I’m pretty sure I would rather the club could just have competent people throughout to give us the best possible opportunity to be a success…

What on earth makes you think under Venkys we will ever have competent people throughout? Probably the least important person in the entire club is the one doing “marketing”. He doesn’t set the prices, he just farts around doing “cool” things to go on his CV, which will always have minimal impact on the attendances. In the world of marketing, a job at Rovers (or Hull City) is NW Counties League standard, anyone any good at marketing would be in another industry. 

Genuinely exciting appointment, he’s going to be a real culture shock for some of our players. I also wonder if the new set up is a sign that our youngsters in the academy have much more potential than in the past.

Nothing wrong with the staff being kept on: at best their roles are now very secondary given he’s bringing in his two main men, and he’ll just sideline any he doesn’t rate. 

56 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Yes, so if Rothwell goes there that tells us a story.

Very big if. Armstrong ended up with 2 goals as Southampton’s 9th top scorer so personally I can’t see Rothwell playing in the Prem.

52 minutes ago, Mercer said:

If Sam's football was 'absolutely dire' then words fail me about some of the sheer dross I think we had to put up with in huge parts of five and a half years with Mowbray. 

I'd rather watch dire football in the PL than dross in League One and the Championship.

If Sam had been given the 5+ years Mowbray had, I think we would have become an established top 8 PL side.

Sam took Bolton to the verge of Champions' League and if Gartside  had given Sam the backing he wanted he wouldn't have left and look what happened when he did leave - perhaps a worse journey than even Rovers.

As Bolton became more established their football got better and better (as I'm sure it would have done with us).  Players such as Ngotty, Hierro, Campo, Djorkaeff, Okocha, Anelka etc were all quality footballers who provided some quality football. 

If Venky's could only turn the clock back................................

Complete fantasy to think Allardyce would’ve been interested in staying much longer than he did. He’d been there and got the t-shirt with Bolton and often said he could do it at much bigger clubs. Newcastle was a huge blow to his ego and we were always just a temporary stepping stone on the road back to where he thought he belonged.

21 minutes ago, Mike E said:

And how do you think the LET could drive circulation? Holding the club to account, including when not given answers? Or limply repeating 3day-old rumours from the internet?

If Sharpe's input was actually interesting, I'd buy the paper or subscribe. As it is we get better info on here than we get from Sharpe.

As I understand it, he only repeats the 3 day-old internet rumours that he has been able to confirm, thus making them factual rather than rumours.

If the Telewag’s sports section was 301 pages of random bullshit, I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t sell any copies at all.

24 minutes ago, Mike E said:

It literally IS the job of any journalist to hold to account the people on whom they report.

Really? So not his job to help sell more newspapers? Some journalists do that by holding people to account, eg on the political pages, others do it endlessly promoting people, like on the show biz pages. But the job of both is literally to help drive circulation.

I heard Sharpe say in an interview he doesn’t print anything he hasn’t been able to confirm from two solid sources, like, ummmm, professional journalists do.

29 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Has it specifically been made clear a new man can bring in his own number two? Hadn't heard that, apologies if so.

Also what have you seen from either our dynamic play over the last four seasons or from our warm up routines to suggest that Lowe and Benson are the best we can do?

No one at the club under these owners is the best we can do. And the next manager won’t be either.

On our list of problems, I’d argue that the bibs and cones man and the goalkeeping coach (who our goalkeeper likes) aren’t even in the top 20.

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I know you're trying to be clever, but please tell me you're not comparing Tony Parkes with Lowe and Benson.

Shame on you.

Also Dalglish bought in Harford as his assistant who'd already experienced success as a manager at the top level in his own right and Hughes brought his own trusted team as well Bown and Eddie whose surname I can't spell.

 

I don’t know anything about how Lowe and Benson are perceived in the industry, as I suspect no one else on here does either. And does it really matter who the cones and bibs man is? It’s already been made clear a new guy can bring in his own number 2 so I just don’t get the BRFCS groupthink that it’s somehow unheard of for a new manager to inherit some lesser staff. About five managers inherited Ferguson at Everton, but apparently he’s rubbish.

37 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

Paisley & Dalglish inherited well-oiled trophy-winning machines fuelled by stable boards & a CEO who had his finger on the pulse.

As did Fagin and Evans.

Interesting to learn that only being a manager for five games guarantees failure, which was five more than Paisley and Dalglish had before being handed the biggest job in the country, and that no manager with a spine would inherit incumbent coaches, which Dalglish, Souness and Hughes all did.

On 31/05/2022 at 15:51, Colt Seavers said:

Due to having far too much time on my hands and absolutely nothing better to do, I've done a bit of detective work on this photograph.

Alan Ainscow played alongside several number 9's at Rovers, including Thomson, Quinn, Archibald, Diamond, Hendry Patterson and Curry. Clearly then, the unidentified male must be Diamond or Curry. I recall however that Diamond sported a popular mullet cut and wasn't as stocky as this male.

Assuming that this photograph shows Simon Barker congratulating Simon Garner on scoring a goal and further deducing from the photograph that this took place at Ewood Park during a night game, I think I've arrived at an answer.

The only home night match with Garner, Barker and Ainscow on the pitch together, in which Garner scored and with a number 9 who isn't Hendry, Quinn, Archibald, Patterson, Thompson etc took place on Tuesday 5th May 1987. We beat Birmingham City 1-0 with a Garner goal.

Number 9 was Sean Curry.

I would have been one of the 8844 in attendance.

 

By Jove, Holmes, amazing!

I’m not sure I agree with the thinking that we need a manager proven at getting promotion, and from the championship. Even the ones proven at more than one club, such as Warnock, are a long way from being a sure bet. As well as holding the record for most promotions - 8 - he must surely also hold the record for most non-promotion seasons - 33.

King Kenny said you need two things: luck and money. I’m not sure we have either.

2 hours ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Completely off topic but is anyone else getting really pissed at these aggressive pop ups on this forum, there is one for Ariel gave you literally can’t close , when you try and hit the x button it takes you to the site, really annoying 

My algorithm has a sense of humour..

31 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I'm a bit worried that Carrick features prominently in the betting at 12/1, makes Ferguson look like a managerial old hand with only 3 games managed as a stand in.

So we're seemingly interested in two guys who have managed a grand total of eight games between them. I don't really get the attraction of that type of appointment.

Me neither, when you can end up with a dolloper like Howard Kendall going that route…

Am I the only person surprised that the most vociferous Mowbray Out posters in days gone by are now shocked and outraged to discover we have a slow, unambitious, cheap approach run by powerless clowns to recruit his successor? He had to go but let’s not pretend this process ever had a chance of being better than it is. The dice have been well and truly rolled.

10 minutes ago, Mercer said:

In which case I'd say nowt about owt.

Nothing worse than a poster inferring they know something but can't say any more.

Which bit of “Hasselbank hasn’t been interviewed” wasn’t clear?

3 minutes ago, matt83 said:

Fair enough. Only in the world of Blackburn Rovers does the kid of truly terrible owners running the club get any credence. Not only that but with the bar set so low it sounds better than what we have.

Ps. My dentist is a family run business I just hope they don’t let their 5 year old daughter have a crack at me on my next visit because she’s family. 😜

It happens in every family business. While there are issues with a very restricted talent pool and being promoted too early, family appointees do come with some major benefits:

- access to the real power

- not there for the money

- have to live with the consequences of performance for the rest of their lives

- very unlikely to cut and run

- very unlikely to be dodgy 

4 minutes ago, matt83 said:

If he gets anywhere near a senior position it’s nepotism pure and simple. It would be quite the CV. University graduate, few summers working on the chicken farm, executive of a multimillion pound football club.

Nepotism? In a family business? I’m shocked!

17 minutes ago, JHRover said:

What qualifications does he have to run a football club and would he get a senior position at any other football club?

He'll be right at home here alongside Hunt, Agnew, Shaw, Shebby, Pasha, Waggott and the rest none of whom would have got anywhere near running a club of this size anywhere else.

Irrelevant. Would anyone who had had a senior position in a club be able to manage Venkys? John Williams and Tom Finn certainly couldn’t.

1 hour ago, Oldgregg86 said:

So out of interest, if this young jagdish lad took the reigns at ewood, was around the club on a daily basis how would people initially feel without proving himself as he entered ewood and opened up dialogue with the fans. 
 

Would people treat him as a fresh start , cautious optimism or would he be seen as another venky

just curious to what peoples initial reaction would be as overtime he will either prove himself or prove venky haters right but the initial reaction as in first press conference, first game at ewood where he is noticeably present etc

It can only be good news IMO as it would completely remove the Waggott position which couldn’t approve anything but could and did make decisions slower and worse. As to his qualifications:

- in family businesses, family is a big qualification 

- having direct, unhindered access to the decision-makers

- commitment and desire to succeed

He’s a lot more qualified for the role than 99.9% on here, including me, to write off his ability to run a football club, as none of us have done that either. The issue is not can he run a football club, it’s can he run a football club owned by Venkys.

I must say the pitch held up a lot better than I’d expected.

50 minutes ago, alderson777 said:

Fully expecting Gareth Ainsworth to put his name forward for the reckoning in the next couple of days.

“Ainsworth said: “You’ve got all your sheikhs and billionaires. Give me Pete and Rob [Couhig] any day. I’m proud to be the Wycombe manager.” - a come and get me plea if ever I’ve heard one

34 minutes ago, superniko said:

Myers (not Mike) I imagine given the links 

Shagadelic!

Wow! That shows how memory is a tricky thing. I would never have guessed in a million years that three of our four most frequent subs were Dunn, Jansen and Tugay; three players mythologised as being undroppable geniuses.