5 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

I'll turn it around then.

If we somehow got promoted back to the PL under the present incumbents, do you think our attendances would stay as-is or would we see an big increase?

I'd wager the latter.

Of course they’d increase, but if we sell 4/5000 this summer, and we somehow miracle up a promotion, there’s not a chance we’d get anywhere close to the 15,000 to 20,000 ST holders we had prior to Venky’s.

We have a limited fanbase and catchment area and thousands have gone for good.

Also, noted BDS - mods, feel free to move to ST thread.

7 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

Of course it's the loss of Premiership football which is the predominant reason many have disappeared.

That happens at most clubs.

The way the club is mismanaged simply compounds the issue with Rovers.

1999 we lost around 2,000 ST holders on relegation.

2012 we lost around 8,000 ST holders on relegation.

Many clubs these days often lose very little of their ST base on a PL drop… the collapse of crowds that got underway here in 2012 points to a deep, deep malaise and rot at BRFC… this summer’s further fall through the floor (in contract to nearly every other club) suggests we may have permanently wrecked our support base, which is an existential crisis for a club operating in an environment with Blackburn’s demographics and regional competitors. 

9 minutes ago, unsall said:

Don’t keep going on about superfan, I’m just a fan from a long time back who’s seen the good the bad and the ugly, I just support the TEAM regardless of who’s the owner/ manager, I know a lot of the points you and others are saying is right, but to constantly post every day, about the manager etc is pointless.

The difference with me and others It doesn’t influence me buying a season ticket if we haven’t bought x number of players or who the manager is.

Obviously we need 4/5 more players and I think we will get them in, we have some very talented young players, and hopefully John Park has some good contacts.

Its so easy for some fans on here to say they are fed up watching Rovers and are going to watch a local amateur team, what that really means is that Rovers are just a middle of the road championship side and I’ll be back when/if we get back to the premiership, nothing has changed, we are a small town with a hard core of 5000 fans and fans flock back when things are going well.

I respect yours and other’s opinions we are all different that’s what makes the world go round, but you have to understand others who are far less critical and are naturally half glass full, as against half empty, fingers crossed for some signings shortly..

Before this summer we haven’t had a ‘hardcore of 5,000 fans’ since the mid 80s, which was the case for most clubs outside the big cities at that time with football at its lowest ebb in this country.

Crap spectacle, wasn’t it.

No chance ‘women, kids and BAME communities’ would enjoy that… defo need a new format.

Yes, happened with me and my owd fella a fair bit last season, let’s hope it was due to the closed grounds, because it’s very worrying, if not… though the ST sales say otherwise 

Behave Rev, far more pressing issues - I’ve been worrying about that concourse shelving since last February…

7 hours ago, Ossydave said:

I've absolutely no confidence in the season being a normal one. Only tonight Arsenal have called off their pre season tour due to some positive cases. I don't want to sound like that negative guy but the way things are going postponed games will be plentiful again next season. I'm sure that element of doubt must be in other people's minds too and perhaps influencing some people's decision. Even if games are on the rates round here are gonna mean people missing games through isolation etc too. 

Which would be a fair enough view… if most other clubs weren’t seeing robust sales, be it hitting 2019 levels or beating them - certainly I haven’t come across any other clubs whose figures are well down.

‘Encouraging’ and ‘promising’ according the the sages of the LT comment section

 🥴

Think that shows that Waggott et al are now putting in even less effort than an advert on the back on a bus (yet this summer of all summers we should be putting in much more)…

Be interesting to see what happens to the Lancs business model.

A lot has been invested in the corporate side; events, conferences, hotels and the like. Will that previously highly lucrative industry of business facing hospitality ever get back to where it was pre pandemic?

Yet, a quick Google search shows club after club recording record sales.

There’s something badly amiss at this football club.

10 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I don't agree that we are a dysfunctional mess and no more what then someone like Watford

Interesting view.

So can you outline in what way we operate as a functional football club?

They have been and probably still are, but people use said ‘bad advice’ to excuse their disastrous decision making.

The buck stops with them.

Got to say, the ‘marketing’ of the season tickets this time round really is subterranean.

Apart from advertising on the club’s website (and who’s visiting that in July), what else is there? Even social media channel promotion seems intermittent, a post every few days, perhaps. And there has certainly been no mail shots etc.

It’s merely a case of, ‘well they’re on sale, £4/500, take it or leave it’.

Unreal when you think we’ve been out of grounds for 18 months and club’s (other clubs, obviously) are doing everything possible to re-engage. And it should be especially pressing here considering ST holders make up the vast majority of our match going support.

This lot have just stopped even pretending they are arsed if folk turn up or not.

Love this new cracking display of petulance when proved wrong on an issue you’ve patronised everybody else on for weeks.

’Err, well, why don’t you just email them then?’ 
 

😁

1 hour ago, matt83 said:

I really hope it falls flat on its face. Had the 16.4 Manchester mercenaries propaganda bus parked up outside OT yesterday. 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/the-hundred-2021-with-friends-like-these-a-hundred-reasons-why-the-ecb-has-failed-the-game-1269911?fbclid=IwAR0egECsnAiW1qqkSjjCBb2JxA-cMbj7iMJ2_bOFOHXd08M3B1a4WmXNR-g

Telling how Lancs haven’t particularly promoted it. Obviously it’s well and truly an ECB vehicle.

Absolute cultural vandals and they are just lucky that the county game support base isn’t as rabid as club football re the Super League or they’d have cancelled the monstrosity within days.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/57804414

A few of those quoted have suddenly changed their tune, can’t fathom why? 🤷‍♂️

9 minutes ago, 47er said:

I think this article sums up our situation very well. To think that we are lacking in numbers and experience, that older players we have aren't that great and are injury-prone and we are set to lose another swag of players in a years time for free, I think we are in a diabolical state.

How the hell was it allowed to come to this?

https://the72.co.uk/242419/indebted-inexperienced-incapable-blackburn-rovers-stare-down-the-barrel-of-a-damning-2021-22-season/

‘I had to tell the owners to slow down’.

Two years was always the case up to around the millennium when clubs suddenly saw the £ signs and switched to two/three new kits every summer.

But sure I read the other week that a few clubs are reverting back to a two year home kit.

Think Gav may have a point. Can’t say I’ve come across many Rovers fans that would write ‘The Venkeys’… 

If they are such good owners why is the club in this sorry state?