Just now, JacknOry said:

But we obviously cannot sign messi - so what is AMBITION in your yes? 

Taking the opportunity to workout side FFP rules as they don't apply to L1 and cherry picking what we can in L1 of talented young potential players ready to climb the leagues with us or punt for a bigger fee to supplement running costs of which neither of the signings to date provide any fruitful viable planning for the future.

Just now, JacknOry said:

Yeah, whatever, look at me kinda stuff, but you call out others for a lack of ambition such as we should not be spending this on a 33 year old experienced and well reagrded pro as he wont cut it next year in Championship, its not financially viable blah blah blah. Then at same time you knock Smallwodd (which I actually have my reservations about) that he is not good enough for such a great club and we should be out there buying Messi instead.

Surely ambition is getting out of the league right? You cant have it both ways! get out of the league and take it from there. 

!Your logic says dont spend money BUT spend money!

So what your saying and what I actually agree with is striking a balance. 

7 minutes ago, JacknOry said:

I agree dunnfc that this is a bit of an underwhelming signing but you do come across as a bit of an ignorant David Platt at times

I know better sometimes and I'm assured in how a business or project should be operated so within myself I'm comfortable of that, I don't look at the short term but overall impact.

Just now, arbitro said:

Before last week I doubt if any of us could give any kind of appraisal on Smallwood (or even heard of him) but now we have detailed analysis of him and a high number of fans have already written him off. Step forward the new Jason Lowe, Keith Andrews, Jason Wilcox et al.

One things for sure he can only improve from in on here.

issue I had was contracts, 1year deals with an option of a further year based on performance. Go up this year and we will excuse my French but need to shed the @#/? to make way on the wage bill.its all fine and well looking at promotion this year but you can run a club or business especially how rovers are trying to do without looking at the life cycle cost of things and that goes on after promotion looking at the length of these deals.

Just now, JayPeeBee40 said:

That's how I see it. Personally I attend very little due to financial reasons.

Life's too short. I actually admire those who won't let Venkys destroy what they love.

Just now, Parsonblue said:

You may not have noticed but first class facilities and a stadium fit for top flight football didn't prevent Wolves, Norwich, Leicester, Sheffield United, Southampton, Leeds and plenty more all falling into the Third Division.  If following a Third Division club is beneath you there is always Burnley if you want Premier League football.  We aren't the only club to fall on hard times.  That's football.  

No but they've not had the spectacular fall in the way of rovers. I'm aware of wolves double bouncing recently but Steve Morgan whom is a fantastic bloke always supported that club with whatever, Jez Moxey is a respected footballing director whom at Wolves had a very good management set up

Just now, JayPeeBee40 said:

I though you might be one of those who feels those who still get season tickets deserve all they get. 

I'm non plussed pal each to their own. You've got some who go because of family some out of habit some who can't think of much better to do each to themselves

Just now, JayPeeBee40 said:

Do the fans who don't bother turning up anymore deserve better than this, or the ones that still attend?

I'm sure those that don't turn up are equally principled as those who still attend, personally I've seen allot of their efforts into many things whilst not attending supporting the club, maybe one day you'll thank them

Just now, Parsonblue said:

Last time we were in the Third Division we were at the bottom at Christmas - stuck with the manager and ended up being promoted that season.  Good job we didn't have you making decisions when Howard Kendall was here.

Wake up man forty years since. we have first class facilities and a stadium fit for top flight football. The club and most fans deserve better than this not a harkback to the good old days running out a crumbling stadium and a kick about for training on pleasy. Game has moved on since then it's no longer 11 lads boozing smoking and working there way through the week for a match bonus it's a serious profession and sport supported by numerous staff at Ewood in many day to day cross functioning support roles with mortgages and co to pay.

Just now, West Yorks Rover said:

Tony Mowbray says he's never heard of em.

Sheron and Weston are his agent or solicitor. Same as Coyke

I've not even mentioned anything about Mowbray pal but for the record If we are not in the top two after ten games then he better be gone.

Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

Care to share a link to this board?

I have done pal. 2 days ago. If you look on my post history you should be able to find it.

Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

As a defensive midfielder, he was as good as anyone in League One and a match for many in the second tier. He could read a game, anticipate problems, stop the threats. If there was opposition danger, he would be somewhere near it, doing his best to snuff it out.

Read more at: http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/rotherham-united/rotherham-united-no-airs-no-graces-but-a-big-heart-farewell-richie-smallwood-1-8577327

Hmmm il trust the rufc fan board what had four pages of opinions. Might be okay at this level but normal people have ambition and this signing shows a severe lack of any. 

Poor signing. 

20 hours ago, perthblue02 said:

Sign up is now available for ifollow, LINK nice to see no extra Australia tax added on  to the subscription cost. Matches will be steamed in HD

Android and the fruit company apps not yet ready, but will be in time for the first games of the season apparently. 

Looks like none of the clubs that are opted out are in League 1, so can expect all 46 Rovers matches obviously apart from those that will be chosen by overseas broadcaster to show live. Think I can count on one hand the League 1 games apart from play offs that were shown last season, so looking good.

 

 

Wonder if you can cast it from abroad on one of these links

14 hours ago, AllRoverAsia said:

M150 - 1985

Red Bull - 1987

Carabao - 2002

Personall I prefer the oroginal M150, in moderation though.

To answer the q - yes, it's a clever use of language but Carabao Band from which the name 'derives' had been around since 1981......

From being out in Thailand (Friends there) they always warn me off getting a bottle of red bull at the 7/11.

Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

I don't think anyone thought he would end up at the level he did. Hence why when he left us he went to Stoke for 3 million 

3 million less Jeromes cut 

1 hour ago, tomphil said:

If there isn't a sale process being put in place it would be nice if they come up with a hit list of fingers in the till names and go after them instead.

Not sure it's possible as they compensated Kentaro for early termination.

Crescendo on the other hand 

Just now, EgyptianPete said:

Mark Hughes, Kevin Moran are two i can think off that were great for us coming to the end of their careers at a similar age oh and that was in the old second division not third, judge on performance not on age.  

Oops should have read the rest of the thread, no matter others have the same idea. Good signing good start 

I must be missing something Mark Hughes himself was signed on a 1 yr contract initially 

Just now, Pedro said:

He's got a couple of good years in him. We are League One and it is a very good addition for this level.  I'm pleased with this signing, there's a lot of common sense behind it.

So get promoted and a step up to where he'd be a bit part player THIS season and another years mileage on the body that's a big risk, speaks volumes Warnock as experienced as he is lets him leave easily. 1+1 year contract would have been advisable with the second year optional at the clubs desire.

Seems another potentially big financial liability to carry

Just now, AllRoverAsia said:

And get some more STs shifted.

Nothing wrong with that, I just laughed when the ST push came straight after the article on the same web page. Speculate to accumulate.

A past it footballer supposed to put bums on seats. Hahaha

Jason Sergio Busquets Lowe

Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Yeah I'd have liked to boot a few of them.

His record with money was virtually 100 percent.

freebies some were nominal outgoings like petshi, some made money like koita and some provided experience like varney, some were key like kilgallon who we should have kept knowing we were selling both Duffy and Hanley. He's better than a Lenihan or Greer.

some were just @#/? like delfouneso but what can you do when your reduced to scrapping around.

10 minutes ago, Stuart said:

Ringing up clubs to see if they have anyone available? That's lower league management and borderline amateur behaviour.

What a nonsense. If that's the case I've clearly been giving Gaz too much credit. It was just luck after all. 50% was merely the law of averages.

Rudy Gestede - 200k - HIT

Tom Cairney - 500k - HIT

Shane Duffy - 1million - HIT

Ben Marshall - 1million - HIT

Corry Evans - 500k - HIT

Jason Steele - 100k - HIT

Craig Conway - 100k - HIT

Danny Guthrie - Free - HIT

Alex Baptiste - Loan - HIT

Tom Lawrence - Loan - HIT

Chris Taylor - Free - HIT

Tommy Spurr - Free - HIT

Matthew Kilgallon - Free - HIT

Michael Keane - Loan - HIT

Alan Judge - Free - HIT (Was sold for Profit- now shing)

Connor Mahoney - 30k - HIT

Bengali Fode Koita - Free - 50/50 (After 5 months sold for Profit 350k)

Ryan Tunnicliffe - Loan - 50/50

Jay Spearing - Loan - MISS

Liam Feeney - Loan - MISS

Alex Marrow - Free - MISS

Hope Akpan - Free - MISS

Modou Barrow - Loan - Miss (Now a huge hit in Swansea)

Chris Brown - Free - MISS

Nathan Deflouneso - Free - MISS

Luke Varney - Free - MISS

Sacha Petshi - Free - MISS

Yann Songo'o - Free - MISS

Paul Taylor - ST Loan - MISS

Bryan Dabo - Loan - MISS (Now a huge hit in France)

6 hours ago, AllRoverAsia said:

What's the latest on the bean counters?

 Cheston still got a job?

There has been so much positive spin this seems forgotten.

It's amazing how bad of a job cheston does and goes unscathed.