3 hours ago, Upside Down said:

Even for a venkys paid account this is embarrassing.

Becoming a bit boring now with your constant messages after every post of mine. 
 

Try adding something constructive to the argument please or stay out of it.

3 hours ago, tomphil said:

Yeah lets put people out of work that's really going to get people on board, this is a 20 million turn over business not a corner shop.

I mean arrogant people who look down on others less fortunate and have an attitude of if you don't like it lump it.

Freedom of choice in something so simple as to avoid alienating fans from a club that bleeds them doesn't cost 26k a year anyway.

Grow up and stop looking at things purely from a balance sheet, what about all this 'Community Club' stuff ?

Peoples club my arse.

It’s a £20m turnover business that is running on £20m losses. Turnover is irrelevant. 
 

A £10 surcharge for someone unwilling or unable to complete a form online is more than reasonable. I find it quite staggering you don’t in the current era. 
 

It has nothing to do with being a community club. It’s about being a digital club. I am sure the club will have invested heavily in the technology to enable this, so now it’s the perfect opportunity to cash in on that investment by incentivising STH’s to renew online for a £10 saving. Great business decision.

1 minute ago, tomphil said:

The staff at Ewood can't click a few buttons FFS.

And to be honest your arrogance and ignorance towards those who might not be able or just don't want to is quite staggering.

No wonder this club is so detached from the town when it's only interested in appeasing your ilk.

The staff that cost a business c£26k because a fan can’t be bothered or learn how to do it themselves?

Appeasing my ilk? Do you mean a fan that knows how to place an order on the internet? 

24 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

@Blue n White Rover have you heard anymore to GB replacement?

Trying to get one familiar face back in. All I can say right now.

15 minutes ago, tomphil said:

We don't live in a digital era we are being pushed into to it suit the corporate technocratic govts who are owned by those with most to gain from it.

We don't have to 'get with' anything it should be an available and unpenalised personal choice.

A lot of things in this world should be available and unpenalised, but unfortunately it’s not the world we live in. 
 

Digital is a more sustainable way for most businesses and the club have found a way to do this and fair play to them. No issues in covering administration costs for someone who can’t click a few buttons on the Internet. 

6 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

So the Premier Suite which I’ve been in to for a game in each of the last three seasons, and has been excellent, with a four course meal - three pre game, and a post game course… has now been replaced with the ‘95 Club’, a ‘one course hot buffet’ (oh and a dessert at half time)… so pretty much what Jack’s Kitchen was (JK now being ‘a pie and a pint’.

 

Agree. Massively disappointed in that as it was my “go to” lounge for entertaining and now don’t really fancy going to the BBE to watch the game. Will try the new Clayton Douglas lounge out though and hope the food is enough!

22 minutes ago, J*B said:

Nice brochure - but can I say on record that the Shearer lounge described as “the most premium lounge” looks like a cafe in the town centre. They’ve probably been given fuck all to make it work and it shows. 

I was in the Shearer lounge last season and must say, it was an excellent experience.

We had our own private waiter who was lovely. Drinks all included. In addition, we received a 9 course meal of which every single one was a delight. Excellent view of the pitch from inside too. The interior was very smartly decorated and comfortable for all in there. Would highly recommend and will definitely be going again next season.

1 minute ago, Mike E said:

You understand that those club staff already work those hours? The fan in this scenario will already have spent money on fuel to get to the club shop (and in an extreme scenario as I often do when getting tickets) try to book off work early or use flexible working to get to the club shop.

Some of us still prefer physical interaction as the social beings we are.

That is absolutely fine and some of us would rather do it from the comfort of my own home.

If you want the service of face-to-face interaction then pay the price, which in this case is £10. 
 

Almost like a delivery option. If you want it next day, pay the higher price, or wait a few days and get it free. 

51 minutes ago, Tom said:

And whilst I’m whinging, £10 extra to renew in person is a sham 

Why is it?

We live in a digital era and the fanbase needs to move with it.

My father who is now 68, is ordering goods from Amazon and various stores online. 
 

The cost of 1 full time employee on minimum wage would be c£26k if you take into account Employers NI. That’s an additional 75 season tickets that need to be sold. If a 3rd of the ST holders buy over the phone, it covers the cost of an employee. It makes business sense.

Fans will happily whinge about the £10 surcharge but will happily pay RyanAir and EasyJet for an extra legroom seat when required. 
 

We need to get with the times. 

11 hours ago, Andy said:

Agreed on that last point in particular.

Broughton did his part in getting the players to the doorstep.
The admin function (or whoever) then failed to bring them through the door on numerous occasions.

Missing out on O'Brien was the big one for me; that would have been a huge signing at the time.

The O’Brien fumble was as much Broughton’s fault as Silvester, which is why he took to the press to try and smooth over. He didn’t do that for the Maguire deal until March when he gave an interview.

Broughton I believe didn’t follow protocol and it ended up being rookie staff trying to get a player to sign a contract and fill out forms. If you remember, Nixon reported that one of the names was spelt incorrectly on the form. If Broughton follows protocol, that doesn’t happen. Yet people are quick to blame Silvester for that deal. 
 

As for Telalovic, there were better options on the table at the time and he couldn’t secure and panicked into Telalovic.

Batth deal was never going to happen given his age and no guarantee he would perform and the player wanted a 2 year deal with an option. Rightly so it was declined. We then got McFadzean on a 6 month deal in Jan, which I am sure everyone will agree was a fantastic piece of business. However, the latter deal had nothing to do with Broughton.

He had a horrific track record of signings. I guess you all remember that the falling out he had at his last club with management too. This isn’t just at Ewood. Good riddance to him as well. 

2 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

We paid money for Telalovic ?  I’ll see if my old boots are still in the loft.

Broughton special.

1 hour ago, tomphil said:

Like i said it's hard to take in when hes worked it fine for 97% of transfers usually not involving big money.

Utter nonsense. Szmodics, Telalovic, Wahlstead, Siggurdson, Hyam and Brittain all involved money and didn’t botch any of them up.

Out with the old, in with the new. 

7 minutes ago, Mike Graham said:

The EFL now have a portal system and only one person per club is authorised to use it via a password.

The Club Secretary, IS, informed colleagues at 9pm (a full two hours before the the deadline) that the transfer had been completed; it was only when they completed the transfer of Fleck immediately before 11pm that they realised something was wrong.

Any system of such importance should have a fail safe checking process.  It is called a telephone and someone should have made a follow up call to check all was in order.

There is only one person to blame and he is the guy authorised to access the portal.  He has now left. 

Spot on.

6 hours ago, Upside Down said:

Bullshit. You can be fired instantly for something that brings the company into disrepute.

No you can’t. You can be suspended immediately with full pay but a full investigation needs to occur, followed by a disciplinary hearing, followed by an appeal.

If Silvester had under 2 years service, then he can be dismissed on the spot. He has more.

GB has under 2 years service and he was fired immediately after the season end.

Rudy Gestede will not be DoF.

25 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Much more qualified ?

You are aware of Silvester's background, experience and the sheer amount of transfers in and out hes overseen right ?

His time at Leicester and Liverpool mean nothing when you can’t hit send…

1 minute ago, JHRover said:

And where did Glen get his account from? 

You can sack an employee for gross misconduct immediately. You don't have to wait 4 months.

I have a business and my HR department have never allowed me to for an employee with greater than 2 years service. An investigation must first be sanctioned, then the employee invited to a disciplinary, before being dismissed. The employee then has a right for appeal which then needs to be overseen by another individual. Not as cut and dry as sacking a manager as an earlier poster pointed out. Could take months.

2 minutes ago, Bethnal said:

Genuinely just going off your profile. One below the last one in this screencap is from 2013.

Not at all knocking not posting and just reading or similar, but coming forward with a lot of information out of the blue is - as I’ve said before now - suspicious to me.

No idea why it is showing like that. I got banned earlier in the season so unless deleted. No idea. 
 

1 minute ago, Bethnal said:

Is that a five-year MBO or are you all now enjoying the luxury of free time at the executive level? (Congrats, incidentally!)

Even still, 5 years… I’ve met three exes’ parents in that time and I hated every minute, but I found the time. I’ll remain suspicious until I see a reason not to. 

I posted earlier in the season?

2 minutes ago, Bethnal said:

Respectfully, you’ve not posted in five years, then you’ve come in hot and heavy when there’s some boardroom fuckery at play and cover is needed. Not sure what’s changed on your end, but forgive me for being suspicious.

I have a day job where we’ve just done an MBO and truth be told, I’ve hardly had a chance to come on here. Also, got banned for apparently being a show off, so that also put me off.

Water under the bridge and all that…

1 minute ago, JHRover said:

Club sec gets the bullet because they've used him as the fall guy to blame for what happened in January. After that his position was untenable.

Rather that than admit the truth that the owners wouldn't spend and are actually the source of most of our problems, rather than experienced qualified staff suddenly forgetting how to do their jobs.

 

So the club secretary did nothing wrong in your opinion?

It’s been in the papers long enough to know the geezer didn’t press send. How you turn that into a conspiracy theory is bonkers.

2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Heard that before, even up until 11pm deadline day, then [insert name here] cocks up and forgets to press send submit whatever

Oldest trick in the Venky playbook to head into a summer telling people there's money to spend and impressive names linked. Just as season tickets are about to be released too. 

Taking us for fools. 

Stay off the drink.

So club sec gets the bullet because there was no money to spend?? 😂😂

He made the error and now paid the price by getting binned. 

2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

So our transfer failings all Broughton's fault (or was it Silvester, I'm getting mixed up as I thought it was his fault) but either way definitely absolutely never anything at all to do with Venkys, Sheikh or Waggott, the 3 highest positioned entities at the club?

Gregg failed to follow procedure for the O’Brien cock-up. He was so excited and took player to Brockhall instead of Ewood to sign, I believe. Documents weren’t signed correctly as the admin was happening in Ewood but the paperwork completed at Brockhall. 
 

Maguire cock-up was all on Silvester. Didn’t hit send. Waggot may have done many things wrong but if your club Sec can’t hit send, then what are you supposed to do?

2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

The biggest question is when and how do we get these repulsive owners and their stooges out of Blackburn Rovers. Because until or unless they do this club will continue to wither and decay.

Nothing else really matters, of course some spending in the interim might help stave off League One for a few more years, as might some shrewd signings and management, but they'll find a way, eventually, to undermine that through further budget cuts and appalling decision making.

The next question is if they are appointing a new D of F to replace Broughton is there any point? If Broughton is leaving because there's no money and his job was made impossible then what's the point in getting a new one?

If we're getting rid of Broughton because he wasn't up to the job, too inexperienced or not well connected enough then why are we apparently considering appointing a total rookie to the role instead?

 

Won’t be a rookie to the job. Will be experienced. Money is available to spend so that is utter nonsense in the BBC story. 
 

Gregg was the one who was pals with JDT BEFORE his appointment and recommended him to the club. The Apple never falls too far from the tree…

Chaddy - can’t name names yet but impressed with the shortlist. 

Silvester was due to be sacked straight after the transfer cock-up. He is an employee and not on a contract like the manager so cannot be instantly dismissed. 
 

Legal matters took place and eventually dismissed in April. Replacement came in and much more qualified and hopefully knows how to hit the send button!