2 hours ago, JAL said:

After 30 years under Blackurnian control we always bettered Burnley and that's what we dont have currently under these shysters were lagging behind.

No true Rovers fan should be accepting this.

13 minutes ago, Vinjay17 said:

Oh yeah that's the most despicable thing imaginable isn't it having horizons and ambitions beyond East Lancashire? That's been one of the digs at me for years certainly after Jack died though like everything else it really started with me seeing right through the (Walker family influenced) trustees and the whole "domino effect" of criticism/frustration that caused which instigated so many of the other arguments including this one. Tell me when Jack Walker mentioned them while he was owner? I can't remember one time. What 30 years under Blackburnian control are you talking about exactly? The club hasn't been under control of a Blackburnian for 18 years (don't even dare call the trustees that and the people running the club day to day were not locals either) though prior to that I'm sure it was always people with local interests/ties. Bill Fox certainly was and I'm pretty damn sure Bancroft, Keighley were as well as was Cotton decades before that. Of course that's no different to the vast majority of clubs in the top couple of leagues at least. The majority had local ownership up until the past couple of decades.

How have they bettered Rovers in any way? What because of 2 years where they haven't been relegated from the EPL? Are you that much of a baby that you can't take one of their fans trying to wind you up? I wouldn't even bother to laugh in their face never mind get worked up about it. Seriously your self esteem is that low that you can't take some mockery from a club that's done F all compared to this one during most of their lifes? There's not one thing they can mock Rovers for and you don't even need to make up childish nonsense to mock them. Their boring name alone is enough. I guess some of them chant tasteless stuff about Jack but really would he have cared about that more than some of the other stuff that's happened with his family, etc? I doubt it would have even hit his radar.

Sure you will come up with the usual retort (which you only know about to begin with based on what I've said yet embellish and make out as if it was so much more) but some people said I wasn't a "real fan" before that anyway. Especially in summer 2011 as I recall all too painfully. So what else is new? Look I'm sticking around (and damn sure won't be going anywhere else and even during vast majority of my "sitout period" so to speak I didn't anyway) but really do have to ask myself why I post on here.

Fantastic post Vinjay, you and JAL, should buy a house together, perhaps share a season ticket.

Those two bets I had on Germany to win the thing and Timo Timmy Timbo Werner to be top scorer might be in a bit of jeopardy. Oh well!

33 minutes ago, Vinjay17 said:

Yeah I would have expected a lengthy statement too for such a momentous occasion. He did put out a statement when he left in 2015 which included touting himself as a "future manager". ?. Who does he think he is ? That tweet sums him up in his mind (look at me I'm local blah blah I am Mr Blackburn Rovers ?) he thinks we are all concerned other Championship clubs might be battering the door down for his services. Who's gonna appoint him for a first team manager anyway? Darwen? No offence to whoever manages them as they are likely way more competent than Dunn would be.

Probably is family reasons. People say he has other business interests sounds like another ex-footballer is on his way to the bankruptcy court. I'm sure whatever business interests he has are investments or arrangements where he puts in some capital and the partner does all the legwork. Likes of Dunn should just save their money and not invest in things they likely won't understand. Unless he buys a pub.

Good grief. You really are an utter embarrassment.

1 hour ago, Ladyboys of Bank Top said:

 

Love to know who the scruffy git was who Mowbray won't be signing because he turned up for a meeting in ripped jeans and a baseball cap which he never took off! Got to have standards. 

I’ll take a guess at that lad who ended up at Bolton, oztumer. I think a signing was close last week reading between the lines and all that, but fell through. We’ve had enough wrong un’s through the door in recent years. Fair play to TM on that. Only takes one or two bad apples, as we well know.

49 minutes ago, deryck guyler's spoon said:

 

 

Who`s his agent by the way? 

Since he hasn’t asked yet you’ve got to presume it’s JAL.

36 minutes ago, arbitro said:

We played them at Ewood in Terry Genoes testimonial around 92-93 I think Bob. I remember Duncan Shearer playing for them.

I refereed Aberdeen in a friendly at Bury on a Friday night (Mike Newell played for them) and they brought lots down for that. 

Blimey. 92/93 was it! I think they had the Darwen end enclosure and didn’t stop singing.

Good luck to them anyway.

Goal. Game over.

29 minutes ago, Madon said:

 

That's a wrap.

Thanks for the updates.

6 hours ago, oldjamfan1 said:

I would expect Burnley to win fairly comfortably over the two legs. The Dons might give them a run for their money at Pittodrie though.

Unfortunately that’s what I thought. Having watched Hibs last season I don’t hold out much hope. 

Hopefully Aberdeen will give them a good running up there though. 

Anyone remember the pre season match against them down here? Late 80s I think. They fetched a few then. Should be an interesting couple of games if nothing else.

Are Aberdeen any good?  

14 minutes ago, perthblue02 said:

Guess: Leeds away moved to 2.15am Sunday by the LUFC Broadcasting company

Something's gone wrong there. Just the one game on TV for Leeds in the first six announced - v Stoke at home. The guys at Sky will be nervously waiting for that phone to ring any minute now. It won't be pretty.

On 14/06/2018 at 16:52, windymiller7 said:

"Ceramic?" Who makes these names up?! It's effing turquoise!

21 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

Misty Buff...Mint Sunrise...

The correct term for that colour has and always will be “Greenyblue”.

Turquoise? Ceramic?!? Turbo Green!!?! Is someone trying to be funny?? This isn’t the Home Counties you know, what next “sandwiches on the settee”? “Henvelopes”?

It’s yet another massive own goal by the club, hot on the heels of the last one, probably yesterday.

I for one won’t be buying a season ticket until they introduce a northern naming convention for their colours. Don’t get me wrong, I’m no marketing expert but surely “Frigging White” “Dark Bloody Blue” and “Bastard Red” is the way to go if they want to connect with the man in the street and fill the ground?

And there you go.

I’d take Messi over Ronaldo. Better team player.

He’d get the most out of Dack I reckon. Plus Charlie can teach him how to score pens. All in all, it’s a no brainer for the little fella.

Both have been unbelievable for years. Truly brilliant. Stick them both in any league you like. They’d stand out. The very definition of World Class.

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I dont personally think that the 22 points in 15 argument is a totally fair point in that I do feel that its impossible to extrapolate that over an entire season. Many of the teams we played in that last 15 games had nothing to play for, take the last 2 games v a Villa side on the beach with a Darwen End full of their fans cheering us on, and Brentford.

I dont actually think that weve actually added loads of new players capable of excelling at Championship level either. There's Dack whose obviously our star man. Smallwood I think can step up but some understandably have question marks. Bell and Downing have it all to prove but I think they can be squad players. Then theres Samuel, Gladwin and Hart who for me all are sub standard.

The biggest boost arguably, bar Mowbray and also the momentum of a promotion, is whose left since. Lowe, Akpan, Guthrie, Mahoney, Gallagher, Hoban, Hendrie, Emnes, Brown, Greer, Henley and since, Ward and Feeney, have all gone. None of them players are nearly good enough at Championship level. Players like that had a catastrophic impact on our relegation.

Good post. 

I think Samuel can do a job for us. Not a massive concern for me that one yet. I’ve seen zero from Hart though unfortunately in the 2 or 3 games I’ve seen him play.

Great point you make about the turnover / clearout of players by the way. Never easy. Couple that with promotion, record points haul, most away wins ever in a season. If it wasn’t for the fact that the transfer window slams shut at midnight tonight I’d be relatively optimistic.

Briefly, obviously. Until the next post.

The Blinders. Excellent stuff.

18 hours ago, gumboots said:

Settle down? You do realise unless it's a worldie (and there are some who would even find fault there) there'll then be pages of questioning the signing and bitching about how unproven/poor/bad attitude he is

And who his agent is of course. Get the wrong agent and clearly, for some, ability won’t come into it. They’ll be lambasted regularly on here.

15 hours ago, JAL said:

Any chance of selling The donkey Nyambe and Nuttall to bring some cash in ?

Case in point Example 356.

1 hour ago, Tormund said:

JAL - not saying he’s a good player but do you rate anyone?

JAL will only be happy when we’re back in the Premier League and getting beat more often than not. It’s a shame he doesn’t go to a lot of matches. It’s also a shame that so many people worry about what he thinks.

Same with everyone’s fascination with Chaddy. Same with the artist formally known as MGPensioner, or whatever he’s called this week, who proudly states he hasn’t been to a game in years.

Everything’s great, or everything’s rubbish.

When there’s no light or shade. No reasoned analysis or, in some cases, first hand objectivity. What’s the point.

Just now, JacknOry said:

he is mrsusans the dingle new id

aka the claret

No way jack. Just no way. This new fella joined relatively recently and has made two posts shortly after that Susan fella was banned. No way is anyone that stupid. 

25 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

John Claret aka mrsusan 

Do you reckon? He’s a silly billy as well isn’t he? Desperately sad.

Just now, mrssusan said:

Good lad was Keano 

Oh look everyone! A dingle. One, sadly, without a life.

1 hour ago, 47er said:

 

However Bob, the issue is the Raos. Are they steady enough to have a plan and stick with it for a number of years?

Nothing we've seen so far gives me any confidence about that.

The best plan for me would be for them to get us back in the Premier League and sell. Good riddance.

I agree. Absolutely zero confidence in them. When we lose a few next season no doubt the knives will be out and the whispering will begin - roll the dice on a new manager and absolutely anything could happen. I’d have more confidence in a pub full of drunk dingles on lsd picking the right man for Rovers than the Raos. We just have to hope that there is patience (there’s bound to be on here ? ), that it looks promising and that he’s allowed time to build.

4 hours ago, Crimpshrine said:

It may not hurt them as such but how does it benefit them in any way at all? Even mega rich people don't like wasting large amounts of money on things they have no interest in. 

There must come a point when they say enough is enough

You’d think so wouldn’t you.

I keep recalling that, and apologies for not remembering the exact figures, that Desai looks after / runs 42 companies within the group. They put a manager in situ and he / she reports to Desai. How on Earth that works I’ve no idea, but looking at their share price it must do. Breaking that down further, and assuming each organisation gets equal focus, she’ll spend a day on BRFC once every month and 10 days or so. Then again she might just quickly look at the league table or log on to BRFCS for ten minutes before locking herself in a dark room listening to The Smiths for a few hours. That’ll be enough.

If the Group is doing well then maybe it’s not an issue.

Getting those two “accountancy” firms in last summer surely shows the (blindingly obvious to you and I) way to recouping their loses, promotion back to the Premier League. If they sell now then they’ll lose millions, all of it. Philipl mentions £250m with £100m secured against the State Bank of India, I’m totally with him here, that money will surely be secured against Venkys assets. BRFC itself has minimal. Can’t build on Brockhall, no value in selling Ewood. Selling all the players, plus Dacks Beard, will get you what? For arguments sake let’s say £30m. In the scheme of things, next to nowt.

Bought as a marketing tool? Possibly. A way of making money? They’ve taken the word gullible out of the dictionary you know? It was a complete no brainer buying the club at the time though. If we’d had the money (BRFCS) we should have. Then sell Phil Jones, a couple of others, money back. We wouldn’t have had to work with that Agent either.

Enough is enough? Who knows what they’ll do, they’re perfectly capable of shutting the place down by the time I’ve finished typing. But if they want to save face, get their (some / most) money back and leave with some semblance of brand credibility, then we need to return to the Premier League. Either for them to then sell as we’ll look a good investment, or stay up there for a few years on minimum outlay.

7 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Yes true and I think they were probably sold a scenario by their partners where they could recoup their initial stake money quickly then it would more or less run itself.

Irony is run the way it was by the people running it that was achievable in the medium term but it's the way they stood by and let in go to pot for years which really intrigues me. They knew nowt about football but they could clearly see millions disappearing but did nothing just nothing. Why oh why ?

Cause they’re loaded. It’s the only plausible explanation. The losses (financial and football) simply don’t hurt them. If they did they’d have bailed out a long time ago.

2 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

 

Im REALLY interested to see how some will put a negative slant on this...?

Really? We’re reigning world champions at it! With good reason in recent times and all that. I’d be amazed if the club release any statement at all and someone doesn’t find a negative. 

Slightly off topic. What was it that the late Jimmy Armfield once said? Something like “They don’t have a support - they have a jury”