macky:

I do believe Ferguson improves the side as I said, however I am also saying that for £7million we could have improved it alot more than what buying him has done. Yes Nicky Butt is a different player but still does as much as Ferguson, Murphy cost £3, we COULD HAVE (like you could have paid more attention in school) had him and Butt for £5million and had £2million spare, that not sound better?

Sam Allerdyce would have brought in at least 5 players that would have improved the side for that money.

I know we could not sign a 'world beater' and certainly not for only £7million pounds, however the point I am making is that for us to justify spending that kind of money he should be a 'world beater' because we have alot of positions which need improving and spending all that money on one player when we could have improved several areas seems rather niave, thats all.

I cant believe some people, Fergie is coming back from a serious injury, yet he is still being undermined by some people.

Deserved Man of the match yesterday.

I have no arguments with what you are saying alan, I understand he is not back to his best yet however the points I am making are:

A: He is/was not worth £7million, we cannot afford to spend that on a player unless he is a world beater.

B: I dont feel he is going to be the player we all hoped, even in those four games last season, he was playing better than he had done, but he wasn't playing exceptionally, he wasn't doing what he had been billed to do, he was simply playing some sideways passes, keeping possession (ala tugay) and scored a goal against brum. He was not however running the midfield.

Surely you must all agree that for £7million we could have improved the side alot more than buying a midfielder who is good but nothing extraordinary.

I acknowledge he is good going forward, but where was he when Hendrie, De la Cruz, Solano, Barry, McCann where walking through our midfield, Villa had men over all the time, fair enough Tugay wasn't following his man but this is just an example, I fail to see how he dominate's midfield, he rarely makes challenges, Flitcroft was the first midfielder to put his foot in yesterday, and he isnt good enough.

I am not argueing Ferguson is a good player, what I am saying is he is not the magnificant player some people bill him up to be, he may yet develop into this and I hope he does but he is not 'everywhere' as a keane, gerrard, vieira, would be.

Manchester Blue, Nicky Butt is at least as good as Ferguson, he only cost £2million!!

If we can get enough money to get replacements please sell:

Neill, Amoruso, Johansson (i've tried to support him, mainly on the basis of man u away a couple of seasons ago and man city away last season but i think its too late), Reid, Flitty, Tugay.

If they are not going to play surely Gresko and Douglas (4 YEAR contract, why??) and any others in the same situation should be given the boot.

And although he played ok yesterday (not magnificant as many people have said) Ferguson, I too hope the game against Brum away last season was NOT the peak of his Rovers career and would love to see him make a quality player, however i fail to see the £7million worth of quality and fail to see him dominate games in the way that Vieira or Keane may do such as we were promised, instead a see a younger Tugay, who is neat and tidy but not a complete midfielder.

This might upset a few people but he has a lot to prove yet to me, he was poor at the beginning of his career and had just put together 3/4 good games, the highlight being Birmingham away (i was there and he was magnificant) however he has not done it long enough yet and his form has not been that good so far, yes I know he's recovering from a bad injury but I am just stating the facts.

It is not so much that he has played poorly in his time here, more that he has disappointed me with the type of player he is, once Souness said he could be our Roy Keane or Vieira I thought although not in that class yet he would be in a similar mould, however all he has shown so far and in his international matches that I have seen him in, is that he is neat and tidy, rarely gives posession away but is not an all action midfielder.

Unless he can become the player he promised to become in those four games, then I would not be too disappointed should we recieve our money back from newcastle and find an adequate replacement, in my eyes so far, Butt for £2.5 and Murphey for £3?? would have given us a far better midfield with money left over, just a thought.

Pre-GS....................GS-Div1........................GS-6th-pos...................NOW

Kelly...................Friedel............................Friedel.....................Friedel

Kenna................Curtis..............................Neill.........................Neill

Short..................Berg...............................Short.......................Short

Dailly..................Short...............................Berg........................Amoruso

Davidson............Bjornbye.........................Bjornbye...................Gray

Gillespie..............Gillespie.........................Gillespie.....................Emerton

McAteer...............Flitcroft...........................Flitcroft....................Tugay

Dunn...................Dunn...............................Dunn.......................Ferguson

Duff.....................Duff.................................Duff..........................Pedersen

Ward...................Bent................................Cole.........................Dickov

Jansen.................Jansen............................Jansen.....................Stead

He took us forward, we peaked, the decline had started!! he should have gone at the end of last season, goodbye greame thanks for the turn around, the promotion, the worthy cup and the the 6th place, but you should have gone at the end of last season, you had let pride get in the way of the team and its good you have gone, I WILL NOT MISS HIS STUPID SAYINGS, OR HIS CONTRADICTIONS OR HIS TALKING RUBBISH, take 'lady luck, those proper players and all the big boys" with you.

"best squad since I've been here" - just one example of 'talking b******s with Greame Souness' as I preferred to call his interviews recently.

hahaha look at this poll, the goerdies certainly know their stuff!!! POLL LINK

LOOK AT THE GUYS PICTURE (the first one to post hahaha)

Can't help but feel we have got a great deal here, we have got compo for a manager that had lost the plot, constantly coming out and contradicting himself, he was becoming a joke.

He has fallen out with too many people and it had started to cost us when we couldn't replace them, rikko be prepared to lose, Dyer, Bellamy, etc...

Well looking at Parkes' record when he takes over the reigns, he sually brings a few people in from the cold with something to prove so I fully expect Flitty to start and Todd, Janny and Douglas all to be at least in the squad, shame we couldn't bring back a "peed off by Souness X1"

Filan

Curtis

Berg

Todd

Mahon

Gillespie

Flitty

Dunn

Yorke

Cole

Jansen

anyway I think that we will go there and win now we have something to prove.

Newcastle 1-3 Rovers, sparking a parkes for the job campaign

If you have got sky sports news put it on, its hilarious the toon fans are going nuts, words such as "disgruntled" "astonished" "disgrace" are in frequent use!

AND CHRIS THATS THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT!!!!

at least we got rid of the joker before he got yet another chance

maybe janny will be given another!

I think the list will be from:

the usuals:

Graham,

Gregory,

Hoddle,

Venables,

Wilkinson,

Gullit,

Dont want any of them!

Interesting ones may include:

Houllier (no thanks)

Robson (bound to be thrown in, if not just for the irony)

Newell (you never know)

Ternant (did a good job with limited resources at dingles, but no thanks)

Strachan (could be the best choice)

Hughes (radio lancs said it was thought we had already approached him)

Adams (under fire at leicester but a good manager, not for me though)

Dalglish (come on you know you all want him, newell as assistant then??)

Warnock (has always done a decent job)

Dowie (good young manager, would prefer someone else)

Megson (bound to be in the bookies shake-up, buys too many unknowns)

Kidd (sorry! )

Cotterill (has had a decent start at dingles, doesn't he usually move after this long in charge )

Hitzfeld (unsure if he would come)

Moyes (on a hiding to nothing at everton)

anyone else??

NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA HEY HEY HEY GOODBYE!! take Neill and Amoruso with you, if you want to pay another £7.5 you can also have Ferguson!

We get compo for a manager who had lost the plot, best deal ever

BRING BACK DUNNY AND COLE, GET TODDY BACK IN THE STARTING X1 AND LETS GET ENJOYING OUR FOOTBALL AGAIN.

final thought:

Souness vs Bellamy, Dyer etc... hahaha good luck toon you'll need it.