But if the manager does want him away then surely it's normal to allow him to do that? Now I'm not saying you have to agree with JDT ,nor that I even do but surely as manager if he does want to move a player on then he should be allowed to do that? Look I do like Travis but if he is asking and begging for a move away and saying to JDT he wants to be a six then I think we move on.Its a loan see what happens come summer ,if you are in the worried about going down camp then I can understand why the Travis loss would be more impactful on you than me See I don't think we will be in any bother of going down with the players returning and JDT has enough credit in the bank with me after our 7th place finish and parts of this season and I feel our form will turn .That's not to say I agree with everything he does . Kaminski should have come back in last season and Travis could have been used more from the bench or even starting right side in a midfield 3 along with Tronstad and Wharton with Szmodic as a false 9

My point is Travis has gone to the manager and asked to leave twice.He has told the manager he wants to play in a 6 he is unhappy and we obviously need his wage to bring other players in Now experience is great but Travis has gone from captain and playing every week to being 3rd or 4th choice and not starting matches,his pride will have taken a massive hit and I'm one of those people who believes if you have an unhappy player then you move on and with the fact we have been left high and dry by the owners we have to wheel and deal,i agree experience is needed but young loans can work out too and potentially Travis wage could bring in a few

Would you have dropped Tronstad for Travis? According to JDT Travis made it clear he wanted to playing as a 6 and Tronstad has that spot Now if Travis asked to leave in the summer it can't have been over playing time as he had started the majority of the games the season beforehand, up to October he had a decent run of minutes too. Reading between the lines he wasn't happy another player was brought in to play in the position he wants to play JDT has to be telling the truth as Travis could easily come out and have his way I like Travis but come on some are going overboard on what we are losing ,he has had a number of poor performances himself.

He wasn't playing and wasn't going to be playing in the position he wants Have you watched the BBC lancs interview with JDT? Why would he be critical of the Buckley deal but not with Travis?.He goes into detail over Travis wanting to play as a 6. Yeah he is our captain but he was been on the bench more often than not, we are loaning out a sub as he isn't as good as Wharton or Tronstad owners ain't giving us.Experience is necessary but if Travis wasn't going to play in his preferred position you are left with an unhappy player and unfortunately due to mismanagement and the owners not giving a fuck we have to wheel and deal his wages might cover 3 incomings even if they are young loans,plenty of young players have excelled in loan moves. And Sorba Thomas to us last season.Huddersfield struggling at the bottom loaned to us in the playoffs.He might not have been their captain but a good season the year before and an international player

Broughton also wanted experience he spoke about it in the summer . Broughton is an employee,it's the owners who put a stop to Batth

Who is clearly not seen as first team ready this season.When was the last time he made the bench?

I think it will be more than 3.That was said prior to Travis moving on

Why what young full back do we have that is ready this season to challenge Pickering? Every single championship side signs young players on loan from Premier league clubs.

Yeah 2nd series was even better than the 1st.Only hope there will be another after the production company went bust.

JRC ,Szmodic and A.Wharton have all recently signed new deals and one would presume on much better money. They all had stronger negotiation positions since they last signed contracts.

I'm taking JDTs word that Travis asked to leave here not once but twice. Before JRC got injured he was preferred to Travis in midfield ,so that's 3 ahead of him when everybody fit. Like I said I'd want to see what else we bring in before I'd give a full judgement on it, but I can see 100% why Travis would have been demanding of a move away when he isn't getting minutes in his preferred position and seemingly the manager prefers a player with different attributes to Travis to play that role.

Do you start Travis ahead of Tronstad or Wharton? It isn't quite clear the club were engineering a move to get him out, il take JDTs word, Travis wants to play as a holding midfielder and JDT prefers another player in that position. Travis doesn't want to be a sub here.Can you think of many players of Travs age staying at their clubs after going from captain and playing week in week out in his preferred position to then being on the bench most weeks and when they do get on the field it's out of position? It's all well and good you or me or whoever saying "Travis would still play and get his chances from the bench". If he asked to leave both in the summer and October like JDT said then a move was best for all concerned. Il see where we are at at the end of the window before I rush to Judgement, if 4 or 5 come in on the back of Hill and Travis leaving and a couple have some experience then I'm not going to be too upset over losing the managers 3rd or 4th choice midfielder.

As JDT said Travis sees himself as a 6 playing the holding role, perhaps the signing of Tronstad put Travs nose out of joint. Id agree with JDT personally, Travis has energy and Is up and down the pitcg I don't think disciplined enough just sitting and collecting the ball from the back and starting moves off which is what JDT wants from a 6

Id tend to agree but I don't know what has gone on behind the scenes.Perhaps Travis had become more demanding for a move away in recent weeks.Travis has had plenty of shit games too, no saying results would have been different if had of got more minutes

He has an experienced player in Tronstad in the position Travis wants to play in. Travis asked to leave,I'm sure JDT would have been delighted to keep Travis as a bench option for his experience etc. Travis has gone from a shoe in and captain of the team to 3rd or 4th choice midfielder. How has JDT engineered Travis move?By preferring another player in the position Travis wants to play? How does this move dispel JDTs complaints over a lack of experience?

You reckon Travis should start ahead of Tronstad or A.Wharton?

Yeah but come on JH the player has a say too and there is no way Travis will have been happy sitting on the bench.Tronstad is a better defensive midfielder than him.Travis will have been angling for a move away and due to mismanagement we can't afford to have a 3rd,4th or 5th choice midfielder as one of our higher earners. They just gave Szmodic and Wharton new deals and both would have had quite a jump in money.Both were in a great negotiating position,with Wharton the club's crown jewel and Szmodic one of the players of the championship so far this season.

Didn't Broughton and Waggott both say in the summer players would have to be moved out to bring others in due to finances? Travis wasn't happy and asked to leave in the summer and again in October.If Travis had been starting every week we wouldn't be loaning him to Ipswich When was the last time Travis started a game in his preferred role as a holding midfielder?

JDT "Ayari isn't a Travis replacement"

They are two totally different type of player. Do we know a defensive midfielder won't be signed before the window ends? Travis isnt getting in ahead of Wharton or Tronstad, or JRC when he is back fit.He will not have been happy going from captain on the field to captain on the bench.

Travis isnt going to want to stay here . He is behind Tronstad and Wharton, JRC was put in the midfield ahead of him when he was fit.The way both the manager and Broughton have spoken going forward Garrett will be ahead of him. I like Travis but I wouldn't have him in the starting line up ahead of Wharton or Tronstad and Travis is not going to be happy being a club captain who rarely plays or being shoehorned in at full back when we have players out His experience and shithousery will be missed but I just don't see the player being happy with the situation and sometimes it is just better to part before it causes issues behind the scenes But with a number of appearances under his belt at this level and some very good performances I hope it will be a decent enough fee

Any idea how much?

Or we are waiting for the stupid owners to sign off on the deal. He has played twice since we reportedly met the clause

I just hope we don't sell him. And I dont think we will either

Did Mowbray work under the restrictions that JDT does. In the space of 12 months he had near £13 or 14 mil to spend on Armstrong Brererton and Gallagher FFS and could sign experienced players , Johnson , downing etc His last couple of seasons the backing disappeared but still in the COVID season 12 players came In the door.He also got to sign the fullback with the most assists in the league in January the following year in January and could turn down the loan of Cameron Archer Not comparable with what JDT has had to deal with Id agree with some criticism of JDT but not the calling of his head I don't think he is a god and there are things he has done I don't agree with but his coaching got us 7th last season , and in parts of this season we have looked good ,the squad is stretched and we have had to play the Christmas period with a lot out ,I'd agree he should maybe change tact for now like Watford away but I don't think he warrants being sacked.He deserves a bit of backing in January and for a few players to come back