5 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Says on the LT the new kits will be shown before the Flyde game 

2 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

So organised.

#OldShirtsOnTilMowbraysGone

57 minutes ago, tomphil said:

It's only ever good business if you get something back out of it. If he ends up loaned out again it's only good business for the middlemen and maybe the lad himself financially. 

Personally i don't expect anything different from the Chapman/Mowbray saga we've already seen recently.

Smacks of a pre-embargo signing.

4 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I want him out as much as you and have wanted him out for at least a year, but is this true?

You have a short memory if you don’t remember his two sack-inducing runs over the last two seasons.

No Rovers manager has had worse runs than Mowbray, and at ANY other club would have already been sacked.

3 hours ago, LordBaltimore said:

Saw this.  Just part of what will be continued Chilean interest in the entire Rovers organization (South Americans love your stadiums....so much glass.  So shiney.  Alas we/they are decades away from that.  Hooliganism and savagery hasn't gone away there).   Mowbray is described as "an experienced old fox" who has obviously coached many important teams. 

In the interview with Mowbray, he say he sees and preferrs Brereton playing on the left while making diagonal runs towards the middle, which is where he also thinks he should play for Chile.  Near min 3:20, he says Brereton can play many positions up front and is versatile but he most likes him running up the left flank, cutting in diagonally towards center and shooting with this right foot.  He says it's his best position because he can cut in dribbling, face players, and shoot with his right.  If he plays on the right it's different because he likes to run in diagonally but would be attacking with is weaker foot.  Min 3:40 "the left side is addictive for him.  He loves running up that side, cutting in, and shooting for the far post, like the goal he scored against Bolivia".

The whole thing started with the interviewer asking Mowbray where he would like to see him play, and Mowbray told him to wait a minute and went for his paper and marker to illustrate his points.  Min 4:40 Mowbray explains why he does not use BB as an attacking 9.  He says he could have used him there but chose not to because that position because BB needed to "develop his body" further in order to play there.  "That position is more physical, with stronger forwards.  BB has prepared himself to play there but I believe he has more potential as an attacker on the left" says Mowbray.

(Both the interviewer who visits Ewood Park as well as several of the panelists go to great lengths to verify the veracity of Leeds United's interest in BB)

What I like is that around min 8:30 BB's buddy Bradley Dack completely contradicts Mowbray and says he sees BB playing best as an attacking center 9, a box player, due to his size and speed.  "He plays well on the left, because he's fast and cuts diagonally.  He's played mostly on the wings at Rovers and in a few games he's been tried as a 9.  I would like to see him as a number 9 for chile, with Alexis and Vargas accompanying him.  I think Ben can contribute most the Chile national team as a 9".

As a rule of thumb, whatever Tony says, do the opposite.

Statistically he is one of Rovers worst ever managers but he speaks in a grandfatherly way about football and it impresses people.

So the strategy from Waggott appears to be to put up walk on prices to ridiculous levels to ‘incentivise’ fans to buying a ST? Is that about the size of it?

We are so lucky to have someone like him doing all he can.

In reality it’s really hard to see how this all turns around without Venky’s leaving and Rovers going into administration. The off-the-field issues are a bigger part of the experience following Venkys Rovers than the on-field matters.

And yet, a change of manager to someone like Sparky would change the mood of the fanbase 180 degrees overnight. Overnight!

That’s the fickle nature of football. We can close our eyes and pretend everything behind the scenes will just get done, put it to the back of our minds and focus on the football side of things. IF the football side captures the imagination.

Instead we are expected to do all that while the football is crap, our transfer prospects are bleak, and the manager takes the piss out of fans with his comments to the press. We aren’t even in it together. How is Waggott justifying his enormous and out-of-touch wage? We lose more money and fans every season.

Meanwhile we have the longest serving manager in the Championship. That should signify and upward trajectory not a downward one!

I’ve had less time recently to post much and a dwindling inclination but even I’m happy for Ben.

He’s going to need to work bloody hard to maintain it but I bet he’s buzzing right now.

Now, we just need a feelgood factor at Ewood and not some Mowbray platitude about how BBD is “like a new signing”.

4 hours ago, MCMC1875 said:

How many things did Tugay famously do when substituted to waste time? Summat like 24? Can remember shin pads off, boots off, waving to the fans and shaking hands with the officials. 

And all after walking over to the Riverside before the board went up to make the journey as long as possible.

I credit Tugay with the rule change for subs going off the field at the nearest point. ☺️

7 hours ago, bluebruce said:

I didn't question you on whether it has a place in this thread, that's why I only pointed out it's got nothing to do with politics, just heart. It was off topic like 90% of the topic, but that's not what I took umbrage at. I'm not twisting anything, you are. It wasn't political, you twisted it to being political. I suggest you rethink what politics is, or you could take the word of someone who has a degree in Politics. I'm sure you won't do either so I'll leave you to the various misapprehensions you harbour.

Wow.

5 minutes ago, Silas said:

C'mon Stuart, threads often take slight tangents.

It's when it goes on too long, and gets out of hand we tend to put a lid on it.

Feels like that time's arrived. 

A big stink was made recently by the mods about a different topic that generated a lot of opinion. Lots of posts were hidden as a result including mine. This wasn’t because it had gone on too long it was all removed very quickly.

If mods are going to lay down the law they have to follow it themselves. Moreso even.

58 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Having a heart about 96 people dying at a football match is not political.

You should be ashamed of yourself for suggesting otherwise, frankly.

It has no place in a thread about Rovers transfers. Many topics similarly worthy to other people have been removed.

The discussion was about newspapers and their motives, please do not twist it as you have.

2 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Thanks for the advice hun x

Interesting response. Mental note made.

2 hours ago, K-Hod said:

I am struggling to accept that as a football fan yourself, a newspaper blaming 96 football fans for something they didn’t do, for a long time doesn’t upset you, yes.

Still, it wouldn’t do for us all to be the same.

Off topic and political.

Practice what you preach please.

11 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

I don’t know why I put myself through it, but here’s a selection of comment from Twitter. I expect Facebook is even worse.

 

This is the problem the longer Venkys are here. Young, ignorant fans don’t know any different and history will be rewritten. Stockholm syndrome in full flow.

Mowbray has cleverly tapped into this zeitgeist with talk of us “not having Shearer and Sutton any more”.

I just wish these know-nowts weren’t quite so smug. The lad there “Finch” was probably in primary school when these club killers rocked up.

They are the biggest threat to the future of this club and we are totally reliant on them writing off £200m (and rising). Meanwhile they are being 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻‘d at by the young generation of fans, who blame other supporters for our plight.

6 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

£200000000+ to take a football club from an established Premier League outfit to this rusting shell.

Bravo to all involved  👏

They disgust me.

3 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

All roads lead back to the owners.

The likes of Mowbray stinking the place out year after year as gates drop and drop wouldn’t have ever been tolerated under JW et al.

The daft thing is, Williams would have taken action and Mowbray would have been fully understanding of the reason. “All part and parcel of the game”.

He must pinch himself every time he wakes up. Absolute lottery ticket.

48 minutes ago, JoeH said:

Interesting to see the German 2nd division defender story has legs. Harvey Elliott rumours circulating also.

 

 

All we need now is to keep Armstrong and we’ll be just as bad as we were last season.

But everyone will say it’s been a great window.

Genuis really.

1 hour ago, Miller11 said:

This is a quote from Slopey Shoulders Steve Waggott at the last consultation meeting on 6th Feb 2020:
 

"My view was that I went to bat for the supporters in India, urging the owners to have a price freeze on a price freeze, knowing how sensitive it is in Blackburn.”

He’s admitting that the season ticket price is set in India. By billionaires who are indifferent to £15 million being pissed away year after year and are seemingly happy enough to let a £5 million house go to rack and ruin. The financial reality of the supporter base will not and cannot play a factor.

As useless as Waggott is, it’s ridiculous ST prices don’t fall within his remit. Similarly, he has to go cap in hand for pitch upgrades, youth team players and academy staff. I wonder if Mrs Desai has to sign off every time one of their chicken takeaways needs a new fryer, or if some fencing is knackered on a chicken farm.

So what does he actually do then?

Because on the face of it, he’s a very highly paid admin staff member who is happy with his lot - or he surely would have walked.

Let me save you all the worry. He’ll be sold for ‘undisclosed’.

1 hour ago, 1864roverite said:

If he reneged on the promise he would never work in football again such would be the ferocious backlash!

A furious backlash from whom?

Rovers fans: “it’s not reight but tha’ll not stop me supporting my club”

Would any of the 2,500 hardcore fans say anything at all? I expect they would blame covid and the club being skint and carry on paying (…Waggott’s salary).

I’m actually surprised this wasn’t discussed and publicly confirmed at the FF meeting two-and-a-bit weeks ago. Should be a slam dunk, nothing-to-see-here confirmation of the pricing and/or discount rather than some confirmation of a “loyalty based” scheme. Unless the details were confidential?

Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

Uh oh ,this is rovers and I just had a premonition 

As the summer goes on there are leaks about Armstrong signing a new deal. This runs and runs. Next thing there is a few days remaining until the season starts. Then the Wednesday before our first league game we accept a bid for him. We get told "He backed out of signing at the last minute, the market is challenging ,but rest assured the money is there for January, young players ready to step up etc" and as such don't sign anyone by the time the window closes

We start the season in a weak position and immediately struggle. 

What are the odds on this or some variation of it? 

I certainly wouldn’t bet against it.

And that’s why we never move on…

3 hours ago, K-Hod said:

It’s been discussed in another thread already. Not sure ICBINF would be the right place for it tbh.

Well the story has nothing to do with football.

2 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-57322352

 

Couldn't find the appropriate topic but the odious two hat fits in this one pretty well. Bradley Orr continuing to be a prized and utter pillock. 

Belongs in ICBINF. An insidious and divisive place I have very happily avoided for several years now.

39 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I've long suspected the people down at Rovers, mainly Mowbray and Waggott but also the others underneath them, are uncomfortable with the beast that is Blackburn Rovers in its current format.

Former PL mainstay, successful club, PL ground, reputation, facilities, yet managed and overseen by a group of people very much not up to that level.

This club remains a PL outfit in all but name and management. Awkward for the management incapable and probably not interested in

Mowbray and Waggott have shown no real desire to harness the club and its assets and put them to good use, instead it is always about trying to dumb down, reduce, dilute and make excuses.

So no suprises that possession of an elite facility in the lush surroundings of Brockhall is awkward for them. Both for what it represents - the pinnacle of Jack Walkers legacy still to this day setting us well ahead of rival clubs - and for the value it contains for raising cash and getting hands on it.

Waggott will also know that the only justification for leaving Brockhall and moving to a new site (other than admitting it is financial) is some concoction about how it would be better or advantageous for it to be nearer to Blackburn and withiin BwD. Anyone with any understanding of the area would know that this is nonsense but unfortunately many people will believe it.

The money tied up in Brockhall is what will save this club when all of the chancers and vultures and scavengers and the rats have made their coin.

If it is cashed in now so that a small group of people can get rich at the expense of the club then we are heading into oblivion.