7 hours ago, den said:

“We got an offer that matched our valuation, so we sold him.”

That pretty much sums up Waggotts explanation. 
 

I can’t tell you how much that pissed me off. Ambition? None whatsoever.

Perhaps we could crowdfund an offer for Wagggott.

I reckon a fiver should do it.

@ABBEY and @Upside Down could decide what to do with him once we’ve got him.

5 hours ago, bluebruce said:

I'm still standing by what I've been saying for about 3 weeks I think. We'll scrape up by the skin of our balls, primarily because other teams around us suck, and go down next season.

We might enter the bottom 3 briefly on the final day, but I don't see it very likely we go down. Only need one of three shit teams to fuck up. Two of them need at least a win, too. Those same two have LL and DD results from their previous two games.

Sammie’s balls, the rest don’t have any.

6 hours ago, JHRover said:

The question is why.

Nobody else makes this loss to exist in the Championship.

So why do Rovers???

When we have the answer to that we can't get any further.

I can’t find more up to date figures but in:

2019/2020 championship clubs lost £443m (an average of £18.45m)

2020/2021 they lost £400m (£16.6m)

Clearly that doesn’t show ‘who lost what’ but it does seem to indicate our losses aren’t out of the ordinary for the division.

Of course we all know our losses could have been much lower if our senior management/owners weren’t so incompetent.

6 hours ago, JHRover said:

Don't you know we've got the lifts in the BBE to repair this summer?

They’ll keep the money to one side until the transfer window closes then decide it’s fine just to use the stairs instead.

3-3

2 minutes ago, rigger said:

The problem being, he would have probably passed a Rovers fitness test.

scout report - ‘a tad one footed but worth a further look’

6 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

We should just survive but Id love to know how many teams showing our form over the latter half of a season have stayed up the next year. Must be tiny.

(If you extrapolate that last 50% of gaes over a full season its around 37 points.....)

Im very much a glass half full person but it's very hard to not conclude we are done.

In the second half of the season we have 19 points (obviously with one to play)

Last year QPR stayed up despite only getting 16 points from the last 23 games

The year before Reading stayed up having got 20 points

The year before that Bristol City stayed up having got 18 points

I haven’t looked any further back but it would appear to be a surprisingly regular occurrence.

2 minutes ago, Silas said:

Well there you go.

He clearly thinks playoffs are playoffs, forget the final placings.

Hopefully I'm very wrong. 

I hope you’re wrong too.

Whilst we’re on this subject, how the fuck was that seven years ago??!!

6 minutes ago, Silas said:

I really hope both of you are right.

I can't remember the situation with Huddersfield last time (if they couldn't go up or down a place) but I remember the usual discussion- is it better to keep playing and have momentum, or rest and save energy. 

And Wagner was firmly in the get everyone out of harms way, no injuries camp.Think he was interviewed at the time as it was a bit controversial, spirit of the game and that. 

They were fifth and could have finished no lower but as high as third.

1 minute ago, Silas said:

Has it been mentioned that it was Wagner that helped relegate us last time....to the benefit of Birmingham. 🙈🙈

Rested his Huddersfield team and played such a bunch of donkeys that 'Arry's team won even after an early sending off. 

I do not like the similarities here. 

As others have said, will Wagner want to risk finishing 6th and having to face Ipswich/Leeds over two legs?

Hull behind

15 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Comes down to who will have both the bottle and the desire.

I am less optimistic than most of the postings on here post match.

My thoughts:

• Brum - they'll kick Norwich off the park to get a result, Brum win
• Plymouth - who gave them a chance against Leicester?  Hull might have nowt to play for and even if they do, fancy Argyle to get their win
• Owls - they've shown they have plenty of bottle and desire, can't see then failing to get a point at Sunderland who we hammered  5-1 not too long ago
• Rovers - Leicester will want to put on a show, think we will be lucky to lose by no more than 3 goals

My huge fear is we hit the bottom three on goal difference for the first time on the last day of the season when it will be all too late to do anything about it.

Sad, depressing and all too worrying times.

Or to play devil’s advocate…

Brum -  failed to beat Rotherham and Huddersfield, draw at best

Plymouth - 2 wins in their last 10 matches, draw at best

Owls - on a roll, draw at worst

Rovers - who gave us a chance against Southampton or Leeds? draw not impossible

4 minutes ago, London blue said:

It matters little either way, both are shocking records. 

Accuracy always matter - that being said I agree with the bit in bold.

9 minutes ago, Exiled in Toronto Mk2 said:

Pears - didn’t chuck one in huzzah. Now clear off

Brittain - taken a real dislike to this fella, not fit to lace Heaton’s or Brannigan’s boots. Eff off.

Carter - the only defender who makes a forward worry what might happen if he traps the ball.

Mcfad - a worthy past it successor to MacNamee, a real captain’s performance.

Hyam - worst captain in our history. Only not a spineless disaster when he has no-one to mark and got his dad beside him to tell him what to do. Get rid.

Pickering - too timid to play wing, too slow to play back. Cheerio.

JRC - I like him as the extra attacking midfielder, not convinced by him being the attacking midfielder. Play him in a 3.

Tronstadt - Automatic pick

Dolan - when he plays 1/2 touch he can be really effective, once the triple salko’s start he’s Sunday league.

Sammy - start carving the statue

Gally - oh, there’s the statue. Sayanora, finally.

Worse than Murphy?

4 minutes ago, ABBEY said:

Dude not gonna like that

Have I gone off message? 😄

4 minutes ago, London blue said:

3 wins in 16. Say it slowly.

Also I don't see what asking a forum member what they would do achieves, they're not a manager.

It’s 2 wins in 15 - don’t fall for Chaddy’s spin.

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

so what player changes would you make? would you gone 4-2-3-1 formation wise or something else? 

Can you lose a centre back when Coventry was still play 2 up front? 

They could keep two up front because we kept five at the back.

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

its your opinion. we don't agree and won't.

What makes you say he hasn’t taken us backwards?

1 minute ago, des said:

Not sure if going down and winning  more games is better then staying up  and losing  most weeks.  All wellmwe will know soon 

Have you considered the going down and losing most weeks option?

2 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Our owners are cursed. 

You know it, all the results will go against us

They didn’t all go against us today, hopefully next week will be the same.

4 minutes ago, JHRover said:

A combination of their recent home form being solid, having Rowett in the dugout, and that they know they need to win. They'll treat it as a cup final, their ground will be full and they've done this sort of thing more than one before on the final game of the season.

I think the result of this one hinges on the result of Hull’s match tonight.

2 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Agreed, seems the most likely outcome to me

It’s far from the most likely outcome but, justifiably, every one is feeling really pessimistic.

Just now, JHRover said:

If Bolton get through the play-offs I wonder who the 'be careful what you wish for' gang will use as their poster for why we can't hope to be rid of Venkys.

All these other clubs who go bust, reset, get through it and go again, coming back in far better health than Venky Rovers.

One day we'll do the same, we need to, just hope its sooner rather than later.

They’ll stick with Bury.

2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I think we are now in Plymouth's hands and hoping they don't beat Hull final day. That's our best chance of survival. Hull a tricky side to beat but Plymouth unpredictable at home.

I think it is a banker that Wednesday finish the job off and get something against a rudderless on the beach Sunderland, after comprehensively dealing with us and WBA.

I think it is highly likely we lose at Leicester, and I'd bet on Birmingham getting past Norwich at home.

Really couldn't have asked for better circumstances today. At home, against a side with nothing to play for, knackered after a big week and playing with 10 men for over 30 minutes. Couldn't manage it.

Birmingham have just failed to beat the only two teams below them.

The potential for a weakened Norwich team aside, why do you think this is likely to happen?

3 minutes ago, Tom said:

Wonder what the bookies have us down as?

Weirdly I could see our odds of going down as shorter than I see the odds of those 4 games going in specific ways next week 

Sky Bet have us at 18-1