Torgeir
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14 minutes ago, tomphil said:
He should be better at defending set plays and organising the defence more than nice guy Dom who's more worried about some nasty criters in the seats.
However in this style of football whether it's JDT or some other coach told to play the same way he'll get his arse handed to him on a plate i'm afraid.
But Dom and the facebook brigade will blame the fans.
He was better against QPR in that department. But think we're zonal marking? And that's just mental.
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3 minutes ago, Pedro said:
Genuinely? I see Szmodics as the only winner in the team. All maturity and physicality has been phased out of our team. That is 90% JDT's doing. It is men against boys most weeks and that is why we have won 1 in 11.
Szmodics, Tronstad, JRC, Garrett, McFadzean and Fleck are winners.
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2 minutes ago, Tom said:
I’ll maintain you did right to attend and give it your all
Things can be spun either way and I think the PR risk is tangible but at the same time ‘we tried to engage with fans who didn’t want to’ is also spinable
Any frustrations are at the regime not the players or fans
Well said. In-fighting is uneccessary. Let us have different opinions. Accept that some fans don't know the history and tow the SW/Venky's line more than others, and focus our energy on what's important. C O Y R
2 minutes ago, Pedro said:It's just a blame-shifting tactic. The supporters, although very quiet, have been extremely patient and kind. It is pathetic - but very telling, if these players can't cope with booing. Absolute yellow-bellies. No wonder we crumble under the slightest pressure.
Irregardless of what has transpired over the past year, we might have come to a point where we need a change of head coach reglardless. Such a mental game and sometimes a different voice is all it takes to get some much needed conviction back. I'm a JDT fan though, so hurts to type this.
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8 minutes ago, Pedro said:
I will be pleased if JDT has managed his last game at Rovers. We have only ever been a stepping stone for him - which I would've been fine with, had he been successful here. Facts are, like his football, he has flattered to deceive and we have gone sideways and backwards.
I've struggled to watch his brand of football. It is extremely sterile. It is passionless. We have zero fight and physicality. I think we have scored some brilliant goals but have churned out some abject, weak and inept performances.
Please let the next manager have some serious fight about him. Someone who reflects the town - like how Hughes had us. Unfashionable, passionate and hard-working...not fancy-Dan pussy cats. We are in a perilous position, the off-field farce has been embarassing and disruptive. Let's get someone keep us in this league first and foremost and then channel our energy at getting rid of those not worthy of 'running' our club.
Who's up for the fight in the current squad?
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4 minutes ago, DE. said:
Think Chrisene and Moran were the youngest out there, both are 20. Dolan's 22 but has so much experience at this point that I'd be shocked if he was affected. The rest old enough where they shouldn't need to be "picked up" because of a few scattered boos. If the mentality is that fragile no wonder we can't recover from going a goal down.
Chrisene was man of the match. Dolan and Moran was shocking in the first half so can't have affected them much. It's all a smokescreen to avoid a hostile environment. Stop fucking up and there won't be boos. Weird that the youngest of the five present tonight was Pears at almost 26.
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4 minutes ago, J*B said:
Ultimately I decided to go so that I could say my piece and I feel like I did do. Between me and Glen we made it abundantly clear what the problems at this club were and who is at fault… in our opinion, of course.
I understand things from your point of view. Just don't appreciate the secrecy, but good to see the info that came out.
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Who are the 'younger players that have to be picked up at half time'? Shouldn't at least one representative younger than the five senior members have been there too?
Waggott crying over boos, trying to get the crowd to stop. Fans have backed JDT and the players for a lot longer than normal, but our form has been shocking and we haven't looked like trying in parts.No agenda beforehand.... fishy stuff. I hope someone told Waggott we want him out.
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4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:
Or Moran.
Been waiting for that reply 😄
I ran out of players to choose from and I rate him over Sigurdsson on the wing.- 1
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Representing the fans in a meeting with Waggott and his PR man, then keeping secrets from their fellow fans?
Doesn't sit right with me.
The club has lacked transparency for years now...- 13
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8 hours ago, rigger said:
I would have in midfield, Fleck, Garett and Tronstad. Upfront Gally and either of Szmodic or Sigurdsson . I think it is imperative that we win the midfield battle.
Battle and Sigurdsson don't go together I'm afraid.
PearsHyam McFadzean Wharton
JRC Tronstad Garrett Chrisene
Moran Szmodics Gallagher
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I think it's just Suhail that has put his foot down and Waggott was probably seeking final confirmation on the McGuire deal (as it required cash), that he didn't get or get in time. If they can't inject money from India then surely they'll have to sell...? Who wants to buy Rovers in its current state though?
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Waggot's favourite TV show that.
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2 hours ago, Tugayisgod said:
So the promise that any money generated from sales would be reinvested into arrivals has proved to be false.
I was naive enough to believe this, but no more. This is worse than under Kean and I never thought I would say that.
I won't be there on Saturday and doubt I'll be back again this deason
When was the last time they said that?
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2 minutes ago, TugaysMarlboro said:
Most of us suspected that the Wharton money was going to be used to keep the lights on rather than be reinvested in the squad, this article just confirms those suspicions.
The Wharton bid only came to light after the Indian High Court date was pushed back, so its now obvious how all this ties together.
No recruitment team can work positively if they're told to raise their own transfer funds only to have them completely stripped away.
Question for me is how bad do they want things to change...
Maybe this is a blessing in disguise and they have to get rid...
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3 minutes ago, JHRover said:
I think our only hope is that the investigations / court applications in India come to our rescue.
If the investigation expands or continues for a long time to come, or if it unearths evidence of wrongdoing, or if the Court for one reason or another decides it isn't going to allow this to continue, then they are going to have to come up with something new, this being either a new way to fund the club free from these restrictions or lose the club. I can't see any alternative and assume it isn't easy to simply switch to another way of funding the club.
If it is indeed the case that we are relying on sales and cuts every transfer window to generate the funds and space on the wage bill to continue to operate then this is unsustainable for many reasons.
For me the worst outcome would be that the authorities don't find any wrongdoing, end the restrictions and Venkys return to 'business as usual' albeit conveniently with a drastically reduced cost base. We will still likely end up in League One due to cost cutting but the pressure will be off the owners and they can revert to leaving us on the shelf to rot for a few more years.
They aren't giving this up easily or voluntarily IMO. The only hope is the decision is forced on them by more powerful bodies, a Court or government agency.
I think we were looking towards a summer with some sensible spending, but ended up with a depleted squad. Then comes January and we sell our biggest asset and expect some of it reinvested, but no...the slide down the table was inevitable and I think there needs to be a statement made by the club and from the owners about their long term commitment to Rovers. Absolute mad that we can't get money injected into the club.
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3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:
Simply not good enough from Rovers. The lack of communication to the fans is truly pathetic and unbelievable. This McGuire fiasco is becoming soap opera now..
Waggott and Broughton should have held interviews explaining the problems with McGuire transfer and the lack of spending despite Wharton being sold.
We should have invest some of the money in January. Max Bird and Paddy McNair
Message must've come directly from India via Suhail. JDT wouldn't have mentioned his name otherwise. SW being kept in the loop so knows the whole story too, while GB and JDT are frustrated as hell, but GB is the cooler head.
I hope GB and JDT ride this one off, and good to see that JDT had GBs back and put pressure on the board and enlighten the fans. Unfortunately some fans are too blind to see it.
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If Venky's can't get funds through to the club then what's the point of their ownership? Would imagine they at least have some feelers out for prospective buyers? And they can probably do an NDA if they're worried about losing face.
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19 minutes ago, tomphil said:
All this fuss over an unknown striker as well, only at Rovers could this happen.
Nail in the coffin for me is if Ennis the Menace scores the winner on Saturday.
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11 minutes ago, yankfan said:
It’s not lost on me that McGuire is our one and only potential long term signing of the widow. What’s also not lost is the lad has not more professional experience than Harry Leonard.
Mcguire is all likelihood isn’t the difference in staying up.
Could be true but if he doesn't play we will never find out. We need another goalscorer.
O'Riordan is long term btw.
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5 minutes ago, pick32 said:
Like I’ve said before it isn’t a registration problem, players only have to be registered within the transfer windows in the premier league, doesn’t apply to us
You're not telling us much to be honest.
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4 minutes ago, Torgeir said:
We won't appeal as far this time. The transfer window shut January 31 at 11pm in 2023 and the decision from EFL came after February 2. Then Rovers' initial appeal was submitted before February 7. That's where I think it'll stop this time, if they don't show us some luuuuv.
Based on that timeline, the EFL have rejected the application today, and Rovers will appeal and know the result in a aproximately a little over a week from now. Then it's my guess they won't run it all the way until March, so that's that. A statement should be released by the club tomorrow. Anything else is criminal.
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Just now, 47er said:
Dunno but the appeal was finally dismissed in March!! We'll be down by then.
We won't appeal as far this time. The transfer window shut January 31 at 11pm in 2023 and the decision from EFL came after February 2. Then Rovers' initial appeal was submitted before February 7. That's where I think it'll stop this time, if they don't show us some luuuuv.
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'Tommy & The Fax Machines'
Anyone remember when the first 'verdict' came in the January 2023 saga?
Jon Dahl Tomasson - Officially No Longer Our Head Coach
in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
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The concerned players by the looks of the CCTV footage has to be because JDT is leaving and the 'what now?' reaction.
I think they've had their chance to save him, so we'll know if JDT leaves that the dressing room was most likely lost and it was time to go.
A. Wharton and JDT leaving hurts.