Well if they can raise it to 4.5,which actually is 2 million in reality then that means that they can give more.There is money there after all.

No in reality it's still 4.5million. It means that come August of this year Rovers will have £4.5 million more in their bank than they would have if Ferguson were still with us.

Make it £5mill and I'd take it.

Still on his feet. What happens next?

Cheating, spitting, uncouth, uncivilised, diving female genitalia

souness overpiad for fergie-fact

sparky will have a price in mind for him-fact

rangers will have too match it -fact

we paid the ungratefull git for 6 months when he was injured- fact

let him rot if rangers cannot meet sparky's price-??????

Letting him rot doesn't benefit us though as we'll still have to pay him for no return. No club can afford to do this with the salaries players earn these days, especially not us. If we were to do that we might as well sell for what we can get to clear the wage bill even if its only the £3m. Rangers would know this and would just hold on until we eventually offloaded.

However playing him in the first team, whether he's booed or not, shows that he is going to be utilised whilst we're paying his wages and if Rangers want him they have to cough up Hughes' value.

Don't get me wrong I'd rather he didn't play for us but if it pockets us and extra £1m play him. The only problem with this logic would be that any widepread booing would probably lead to Hughes' hand being forced into not picking him.

So now you acknowledge that the numbers you mentioned earlier do in fact lose Rovers a significant amount of money?

You appeared to state it didnt earlier.  Repeatedly, and with some attitude.

I've just gone back and read Dado_Prso's posts and he did not say Rangers would pay the same amount of money as Rovers did in the first place. All he said was that Rangers should pay £4.4m for him of which £2.1m was the outstanding debt. He never implied we would not be making a loss.

When he mentioned a 'similar deal' to the one Rovers arranged to buy Ferguson he was talking about putting in extra clauses for Rangers qualifying for the champions league such as 0.5m for every appearance.

It's not often we get well reasoned away fans on the board, especially ones that stick around. Sometimes I understand why.

The only way Rovers can swing this situation back anywhere near to their favour is if Hughes has a chat with Ferguson, gets his head right and then plays him tommorow night. He just has to be sure that Ferguson will give it his all. It's OK people saying they never want to see him wear the shirt again but this move would be the only way we could show that we feel we don't have to sell unless the price is right.

If playing him squeezes an extra £1m+ out of Rangers then it's worth upsetting certain fans for.

This is probably already mentioned earlier in the thread but it would seem that Savage can play in the away game at St Andrews. If that the case why was David Gold once again just blatantly lying on the SSN interview.

Even Broxibears have got the message.

Look at the poll on that site. If Ferguson ends up stopping at Ewood until at least the summer then there'll be some miffed Rangers fans.

When does the transfer window shut??

Agree with you on that score Izzi. I'd lump Palace in there aswell,

There's no way 3 of the bottom 4 clubs now will get over 35 points IMO.

Forget the pricks on the board. To be fair if we were Birmingham fans we'd be pretty miffed at the way Savage has conducted himself in the last 6 weeks.

To pick up on the Brum interview, why couldn;t savage have come here for footballing reasons? Look what we've achieved compared to Birmingham in the past 10 years. As far as building a team on the pitch we can obviously pay very similar wages and transfer fee's as this deal shows. The clubs are very similar. Maybe Savage, knowing both sets of managerial and coaching staffs, has decided were the most likely to progress.

I'm beggining to get the impression that MGP is by far the most popular Norwegian footballer. His fans are everywhere.

Still 3 goals in 3 games - fair play to him!

Rovers V Colchester United

£20.00 Adult Non Season Ticket Holders

£15.00 Adult Season Ticket Holders

£10.00 Senior Citizens

£10.00 Young Adult Season Ticket Holders

£ 5.00 Junior

Discuss.

I've just watched that as well Alan. That was well funny. It was just a man that was so bitter trying to stay so calm.

If I make one more away game this season it will be St Andrews.

I think he's always been very limited and that players need more than stamina to contribute at this level. Until about 20 minutes ago I couldn't stand him.

Funny how things change.

One Robbie Savage, there's only one Robbie Savage .............

First of all Fergie is a great player!

Seriously where do people get this opinion of him as a great player. I've been saying this for a couple of months now. Most of us have seen him probably 25+ times playing whiilst he has been at Rovers and he has never once suggested that he is a great player. He's looked good at times but most decent players can do that.

I feel that when we bought him a lot of people were taken in with the price-tag, the reputation and being a 'biggish' name. People seem to identify him as being the best, most well known member of the squad. But that's all reputation and he has never shown himself to be near great on the pitch. Sure he may be the best midfielder we've got but, if Hughes has anything about him, we should be able to replace him for less than we sell him for.

I'm a bit miffed like everyone else that a player wants to leave our beloved club. However I've said this before - more or less all players that play for any club don't have the same passion for the club as we do. Players come and go and if he wants to leave then let him provided we get what we can from the deal. The one thing that really urinates me off is the fact that in the 18 months he's been here he spent 1/3rd of that time injured whilst we paid his huge salary. As Mr Shearer himself would say :- "There's no loyalty in football."

Edit - GAV manages to write my entire post in about 4 lines"

Breaking News on SSN.

Rovers agree fee with Birmingham for Savage.

Doesn't give an amount yet though.

Izzetnot - this all seems to have descended a little bit - your initial arguments were well balanced - but u just seemed to have slipped further and further down.

His problem is his initial well-reasoned arguments were simply untrue such as the fee they paid for Savage, saying they got Yorke on a free and that Dunn got us promoted twice. When a simple bit of searching and common knowledge proved these to be complete lies he lost his plot.

A couple of comedy links here.

First of all

Sav - man of his word!

And then Robbie Savage is a pretty average player some Brum fans would have us believe. However he was above average enough to come 2nd in this poll for their player of the year 2004. This despite the fact that the voting took place after he'd handed in a transfer request! Dunny and Tiny haven't done too well tho

Brum player of the year 2004

RangerRover - I agree with most of what you've wrote. We'll never know for sure until either the move goes through or Ferguson does actually say what he wants.

The worrying part of you're post though is that Ferguson might actually think he's above a relegation battle. More likely he realises that in England that is about his level. It's noticable that no other Premier League clubs seem to be even sniffing around him after viewing his performances over the last 18 months.

He's a good player but not great and we paid well over the odds for him. Is he any better than a fit David Thompson??

To be fair if ST holders want to go they now have the option for going for a £10. The club have now made it perfectly acceptable and only the snobbish who refuse to move to other parts of the ground will complain.

I wasn't going yesterday. I am today. Well done Rovers.!

Yet again the Myth rises.

Didn't appear to be many Geordies there yesterday.

I don't know Captn. As well as the few behind the goal they were attacking in the second half they had the whole of the stand on which the camera was situated.

I think MGP had a good game and he SHUT a few people up who hadnt given him a fair chance,but who impressed me most was Mokoena.It sounded like he made quite a few good perfectly timed tackles.

Now if only Matteo could defend or pass.

If it 'SOUNDED' like Modoena had a good game you obviouslly weren;t there so how do you know that MGP SHUT a few people up? Simon Garner said apart from the goal he was ineffective on Radio Lancs!

The first goal did look offside but it was hard to tell won't be able to tell proper tilll i see it on telly tonight.

Just watched it. Only just but definately onside.

My mate tried for a ticket yesterday in the Riverside and apparantly it's sold out. Lower tier DE or upper JW were all thats left. Should be almost a full house then.

Rovers 1-0 Newcastle

Ferguson

I'm surprised the Toffees havent already got the sold out signs up on their website but as yet they haven't. However I've seen 4 or 5 of Evertons games this year including last Saturdays derby game and I still don't think they are near top 5 material. Marcus Bent up on his own with Kilbane, Cahill, Gravesen and Carsley supporting should not be the sort of line-up we are fearing in one of the best leagues in the world. All credit to Moyes and their players for showing that tactics, heart and belief can get you so far but I am sure they won't finish in the top 5.

That said it doenst take a genius Rovers fan to realise that any team in this league can cause us trouble due to our well documented faults. The hordes of Scousers behind the Darwen End will make sure that home advantage is reduced somewhat.

I'm going for 1-0 Rovers with us producing a second consecutive clean sheet .

Kevin Kilbane 2nd in the Englsih Prem. What is the world coming to!