As much as it's enjoyable to see Germany losing, they are still as likely to get to the final as ever. Apparently they lost their first game in 1982 to Algeria and went on to make the final as as I've previously mentioned, their supposedly bad team also made the final in 2002 Until they are knocked out, they can't ever be discounted, dammit! ?

Not quite up there with the Euro 92 final . . but . . . .

https://www.thesun.co.uk/world-cup-2018/6553522/patrice-evra-sexism-eni-aluko-itv/ ?? It's almost enough to make me want to get ITV on stream, . . . .almost.

That's the 6 million dollar question. The clear and obvious thing is a bit murky. Like, who exactly does it have to be clear and obvious to?

Mexico getting a bit nervy now. Backpasses to the keeper from Germany's half. . . .psychologically not good. Keep going. Vamos!

Though that 'penalty' incident just before looked more of one that the Argentina one yesterday.

I wonder if VAR is ever going to give a decision against a 'big team' v's a 'minnow'. We'll see . . . .

Even Germany's 'worst team ever' got to the final in 2002. Be afraid, be very afraid, always . . . .

It seems Mexico are really missing someone that can put their foot through the ball. All buzz and no sting so far. HAHHAHAHAH! Right on queue. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLL!

Any hope for Mexico?

LOL! GOLAZO! Better than Ronaldo!

Serbia are finishing like a team that could lose 1-0.

Don;t forget Sevilla and Atletico seem to have done pretty well in 'that other European competition' in recent times.

Serbia and Switzerland have a good chance of blowing it today. Taking the pressure off ?

Most of the time it's only really the players that know - re diving etc. so let them request to review things. It would be interesting to see if Greizmann would have asked to review today's penalty incident. And as you said loads of things get missed . . . including off the ball incidents . . .so, bring it on. The WC has only just started and VARCat has been very hit and miss so far.

I think this VAR thing should work in a similar way to cricket. Give each team 2 reviews. ? That Denmark goal looked a bit touch and go . . . .Some might even say clear and obvious.?

This is the poorest game of the WC so far. Will it get any better? Denmark seem clueless up front.

But there was no need for the dive and roll for the penalty. These guys are all the same when it comes down to it.

Is there a human involved at some point? I was wondering if perhaps that Russian Cat was making the decisions according to whether it prefers Whiskas or Sheba.

That's the thing. Clear and Obvious. I wonder what views Platini was shown. It seemed like it was a rushed decision backed up by previous complaints about VAR taking too long. It was never a penalty and Griezmann should have been booked for simulation - in fact I thought that's what they were actually going to VAR for.

Yes. Definitely a 'basketball foul'.

I HATE FOOTBALL!

Couldn't help having a quick look on BBC to see what they were saying.

I feel sorry for you guys. I'm watching on Telecinco.. . . uninfluenced by boring men in suits.

Here comes the matchmaker. Has Giroud had a brain transplant?