Easiest penalty a ref has had to give this season, terrible decision making by Hyam. 

5 minutes ago, roverandout said:

The fact we are now a feeder club to crap like Palace says everything about how far we've fallen 

I think it says everything about the nonsense that is EPPP and tribunal fees protecting developing clubs. 

Eze and Olise are outliers in that they’d both been in and released from several elite academies. Being given a ‘last chance’ and Millwall and Reading academies respectively before making a name for themselves in the EFL. So neither club had invested heavily in the players development. However Adam is exactly the sort of player EPPP and tribunals are designed to protect, people will argue £18.5 ml is a realistic/good figure but we all know Dick Turpin had the decency to wear a mask! 
 

The reality is that the game is rigged to benefit those in the EPL, a closed shop who vote for each other and will sell us and the rest of the pyramid to the dogs for their own gain. 

Eze had played over 100 games for QPR and Olise had played a lot at Reading. Both been at several academies, none of which were CP. 
 

What CP look good at doing if anything is lowballing teams in turmoil for their best young talents, certainly not something the guardian (who decry the financial might of some clubs) should be celebrating 

Hopefully we see that JRC from last year and earlier in the season, he was chucked into it on Friday but looked miles off it. We were better through the middle when he was replaced 

Bit of revisionism going on re Amari’i Bell, he was crap for us. Huffed and puffed going forward and was decidedly suspect when defending. Nobody was particularly bothered when he was released. 

Is it on the Red button today?

No chance the Bhoys in Green pay 10million for him. Mentioned plenty of times my family are big Tim’s so follow them closely and the transfer strategy is to buy lots of young unknowns with the idea one will generate a big fee in years to come. It’s a constant point if discussion/falling out between the fan base and the board, bringing in big fees for Dembele, Edouard, Jota with little of note invested. Will be the same this summer when O’Riley and Kyogo are both likely to move on for fees upward of 15million. 

13 hours ago, Upside Down said:

Some primary school teach other languages but it's not part of the curriculum until secondary school, maybe that's changed but you are 100% correct about the bonehead mentality of many folk from the UK.

Been on the national curriculum for 10 years or so I think to teach a modern or ancient foreign language at KS2.

All schools teach Spanish and/or French from KS2 Y3 onward, so the notion that languages aren't taught in Britain until high school is factually incorrect. The general attitude toward learning languages and the small man mentality vast swathes of the nation has toward Europe is the root of the problem. 

There needs to be a Sammie chant to the tune of Stone Roses classic, Sally Cinnamon 

51 minutes ago, alcd said:

It appears this injury is related to the the twice-operated broken fibula. He had played for Sheff Utd for only a few minutes after his second op. It's a wasteful pointless signing that reflects very badly on Broughton and the medical team. 

The medical team can be overruled though, they present information and give advice. It is on the powers that be to make the decision. For all we know the medical team could well have said he has weaknesses around his fib, associated muscle problems and is likely to break down. Waggot or Broughton could well then come in and say sod it, he's cheap and it's a risk we're willing to take if we get 5 games out of him.

3 hours ago, joey_big_nose said:

Incidentally on this - I would say based on current form and performance I think that first XI is a decent top half Championship standard... only questions for me are Moran (who was excellent at Newcastle so maybe turning it around) and if I had a choice would prefer JRC to Brittain. Brittain is a fantastic receiver of the ball and can't half put a shift in getting up and down. But he struggles to impact games in my view - his final ball rarely works (Stoke game apart...). But still think they are both better than relegation standard.

The bench is worrying though.

Think that's harsh on Brittain, his vision and delivery is his strongest asset IMO, that pass for Gallagher against PNE was incredible. He's got the 2nd highest assists with 6, 4 in the league and 2 in cups. I think we will see more from him as the season goes on as he's playing as a more traditional FB/WB where he seems most comfortable.

Inverting him as JDT was doing doesn't get the best out of his ability to get up and down. JRC is the man for the inverted role, although that could be a thing of the past under JE. 

25 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Siggy was the only one who was going through the motions when it came to pressing.

He did win a 50-50 though, I think it was more due to not being able to get out the way rather than trying to make a tackle 

On the defensive side there was one particular passage of play where he battled Burn for the ball over 20 yards, it was obviously a duel he was destine to lose but he stuck at it, delayed him and did his job for the team. Something we've not seen before. To be fair he wasn't the only one, they all seemed much more willing to engage in duels last night rather than closing down and pressing without initiating contact

Getting to and from Ewood last night was a total mare but couldn’t spoil a Fantastic night, had a lot of the good bits of JDT with some defensive steel mixed in. Every player to a man deserves credit for tonight. 
 

I though when the subs were made we’d fold like a deckchair but they performed admirably, even Billy, who for 5 minutes looked like he was plucked from Sunday League before calming himself down and making a few valuable contributions.

Shame to end with not going through but a fantastic evening and great to see Ewood bouncing 

Markanday was very direct last night, every time he got the ball down he looked to run at them in straight lines and commit them. It was a joy to see, if he can carry that through he’d be a handful. 

7 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Hmmmm, JDT has departed, gone, vanished. What is the feckin point of bringing him up. Well there is one, we are trying to play hoofball with 70%ish of the team unsuited to that style of play. Good luck with that one John.

The point I was making is that win % is usually used a comparison with other managers, of which I am comparing our most recent. To show a small but undeniable improvement, also I’d say points per game over the period would be a better context to judge JE. We were equally unsuited to playing Cruyff style positional football too. We are where we are with the squad, rank rotten management at senior level has tied both managers hands behind their back

5 hours ago, AllRoverAsia said:

 

5 games, 1 win, 20% win rate, 6 points.

And that's doing pretty well?

No, it's not. We have to do better to ensure safety.

And I'm in a generous mood and giving the Stoke win down to Eustace.

It's an improvement on JDT's 5 game win rate of 0% and for Rovers to stay in the division is what counts right now.

I‘m not saying anyone has broken any rules, it’s just a system that leaves Chair eligible to play. Which is odd in comparison to the system here, it would be likely Chair having erm found guilty be remanded while an appeal took place. So had he not appealed he would now be banged up and obviously ineligible to play

Ilyas Chair Sentenced to 2 years in Belgium for whacking a bloke with a rock and fracturing his skull. Remains available for selection while the appeal takes place. Seems mental you can be found guilty and sentenced yet not be remanded awaiting the appeal. Imagine he keeps them up, loses the appeal and goes down. You'd think the clubs that are relegated at the cost of QPR would have something to say about it!

sorry, 3 months, typo

2 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

Most likely, though I can see us playing and extra man in midfield like Chrisene and starting Dolan on the bench.

I think JE will try and overload midfield too, especially with Bucko having only played 30 Mins in 30 months and extra body in there to free him up could be a sensible option. 

I fancy us to get something out of this, it's going to be ugly as hell with 10 behind the ball for most the game but playing against one of the better sides in the league makes sticking to the task of defending deep and compact easier in a way.

Against lesser teams gaps appear and it's more likely that you get drawn out and picked off, look at us under JDT and post Jan under Mowbray. Teams let us have the ball, poor decision making and execution meant we created problems of our own overloading areas of the pitch to get picked off week after week. If we can be disciplined and compact I think we may nick point, fingers crossed for more!

9 hours ago, M_B said:

Good debate guys, the thing that shouts at you is the reliance that we still have on the players Broughton and Co inherited. 

The shiny new "recruitment" department needs to get its collective finger out. 

For sure, it’s still unclear to me who Broughton and co have actually signed from their A list other than Tronstad and Leo. Where the results are neutral, 1 good, 1 bad (so far). 

Other than those 2 and maybe Ennis/Telalovic none of the signings whether they be loan or otherwise seem signings that are done out of anything other than necessity to pad the squad out, filling bodies on the training ground.

As everything Rovers we’ve got a system that isn’t fit for purpose in that we have a DoF who can’t sign the players he identifies in the main. You look at the loan players and they look to be more ‘the club’ drawing on its pre-existing relationships with Brighton and Liverpool rather than signings we wanted to make, barring Moran maybe who they talked up as first choice in September (I’m still not sure). 

I feel for the recruitment team in a sense as they’re operating with arms behind their backs and taking the flack for a lot of duds. Whereas I think a number to the duds are Waggot/club signings from friendly clubs. That said the ones that look like their signings have been a very mixed bag so far

To be honest if the bonus trigger were the case I think it would have been more likely that JDT would pick him to spite Waggot and the owners. In fact I could imagine JDT starting Travis just to hook him after 5 mins to piss them off!