Just now, 1874 said:

The stats above from top down show the leagues you are most likely to be relegated from

It also shows in reverse order the leagues you are most likely to finish higher in ( but not necessarily win)

 

which one should we enter then?

1 minute ago, roverandout said:

He could have played for real Madrid in his prime

 

biased opinion of course, but he could have got in most teams int he world. I'm not sure what happened for him to not really get noticed until late in his career.

Just now, roverandout said:

Imo the best central midfielder rovers have ever had.  In my lifetime anyway.  Hopefully one day Adam Wharton can be as good 

 

Best in my lifetime for sure. We have plenty of good'uns but nothing like him. That clip of his top ten goals when he only scored 11 for the club - amazing. It's not just those moments of magic though, he could control matches from his position. 

1 minute ago, roverandout said:

I was livid when souness went for tugay over berkovic. I remember saying on here it was a huge mistake.  Then I saw him play and the rest is history

 

Exactly, Berkovic was brilliant for us and helped us get over the line. We all wanted him back. Then we signed Tugay, who at the time most never really knew anything about. Very doubtful Berkovic would have gone down as a legend like Tugay. Probably one of the best cases of the fans don't know everything.

26 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

I was responding to Phil that said he was ‘released’. 

Just not having that the fanbase was angry about a bloke with a shed load of caps for Turkey arriving. Not exactly a marquee signing like Cole, but most fans were just a bit non plussed - just like when Brad came in.
 

 

ah okay, agreed then.

5 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

He was only here on loan.

 

I know that - but when we went up most wanted us to go in for him permanently.

bout that time of year i guess 

Just now, philipl said:

Eyal Berkovic (who was slightly younger) was released to make space for Tugay.

 

 

fantastic player - which is why most were not that happy with the Tugay signing at the time - they wanted Eyal. 

1 minute ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

All this such-and-such are a 'small club' and have no history and it should be us etc is entitled bollocks. It's irrelevant how many trophies you won 30 years ago. It's like walking round with your gut hanging over the elastic on your shit-stained joggers and telling everyone you used to date the prettiest girl in town.

Luton are now in the Prem because they deserve to be.

 

Quaint lol.

41 minutes ago, rigger said:

Has JDT left yet

 

 

 

Dunno but his missus makes pies or something

10 minutes ago, philipl said:

You don't have to be that old to remember Luton being in what was the First Division and winning silverware. In fact Luton voted for the formation of the Premier League so it isn't that long ago. Prior to that the previous time they got relegated from the First Division was a few days after I was born...

 

I'm not talking Luton in isolation - all of them.

10 hours ago, 1874 said:

Least competitive leagues based on the points per game the winners can expect to get v the highest place relegated team.

In order of least competitive to most competitive

WomensSL 2.136

Womens champ 1.86

Premier League 1.71

National league 1.36

Championship 1.239

League 1 1.21

League 2 1.02

So well done league2 on being the most competitive league and shame on the Womens Super League for creating the least competitive

 

 

And now the most hated man among females. The league will get there. I'd rather pour scorn on the PL looking at those stats. Thats where the money is. 

2 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

Well done to Luton. They finished 3rd so they deserve it. 

 

It's huge for that football club. 20 years ago, If you told me Brighton, Luton, Brentford and Bournemouth were in the PL - i'd call the police to report a psycho.

Just now, rigger said:

They weren't a force last season, we blew it.

 

Well, there's that. They are/were nothing special - that's on us though. But they won't even be what they are now. Not a pot to piss in and losing their best two players.

21 hours ago, goozburger said:

Pat Gamble signs a two year contract extension, with the option of a further year. Could be a risk. 🙄😁 Article here.

Pleased that we're tying these lads down for the future!

 

What were the odds of that happening?

Can't read this thread, makes me hungry.

On 27/05/2023 at 16:37, AllRoverAsia said:

You would have my company up there on that hill.

Exactly, we have suffered a long and lingering death - there's is short and sweet and the owners will go. Ours will be with us until my deathbed

5 minutes ago, goozburger said:

It was certainly a game of two halves. Luton bossed the first half, and could have been two or three up, really.

Coventry started to threaten in the last five minutes of the first half, and to be fair, I thought they were the better team in the second half and deserved their equaliser.

Luton always looked the more likely in the end, and they have a better quality side which shone through. Penalties are a terrible way to settle a game in my opinion. Both teams took sublime penalties until Dabo's absolute clanger.

Overall, I'd rather Luton went up for a few reasons. Luton have been a thorn in our side for a good few seasons. There is also justice in Coventry suffering heartbreak due to their blatant handball to equalise against us. Finally, I think Coventry may struggle next season. Their better players will go (and I don't think they'll get as much as they would hope for given the short lengths of contracts remaining, plus their desperation for money - they dropped a clanger by having to sell Hyam to use for less than we originally offered last summer!).

 

Yeah, Coventry will rue that defeat for a long time. Hamer and Gykores will be gone. They won't be the same force this coming season.

sell him back, sign him again, and get it right this time!

Seriously, we're moaning about cheesy signing on social media vids now?

Don't buy it - not exactly going to admit it, are they? Won't get another kid from Liverpool if they do. Think I'd rather they didn't anyway, Elliott aside, not exactly torn up trees, have they? 

Bet the Spurs fans are loving that potential appointment...

so they phone ex-players for advice on new managers?

Just now, roversfan99 said:

Whilst it is definitely a valid argument to suggest that we sold Raya for a low fee and it was a short term move, he made so many mistake in that first season up and he wasn't a patch on the keeper he is today, and likely wouldn't be close to it even now without the coaching and development he has got at Brentford.

The year with Walton was a joke, but what frustrates me more at this current time is that we did (a year too late) get an excellent replacement in Kaminski and we are probably going to sell him to go back to having someone bang average in net instead.

 

Selling Raya for 3.5 then is like us selling Wharton for 5 million now. Many could see the potential of Raya - and if it's a club like Brentford that was/is renowned for its recruitment is bidding, surely you think twice about selling? They certainly knew they were getting a player that would likely bring them a big return on that investment.

"Thinks he will play Premier League one day" 

Let's see...