HowieFive0
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Just now, Dreams of 1995 said:
I don't know if you are being purposely disingenuous or actually aren't getting it.
The £11m you are claiming they gain per season in ST sales doesn't 100% go on transfer sales. You have policing, staffing, power etc (general overheads of a business) to deduce from that (which you conveniently summed up as half a million hahahahaha). Likewise, you also get further income from commercial activity/sponsorship. The £80m sum also doesn't include additional fees that come with any transfer (ie: huge agent fees, signing on fees, bonuses). They, like pretty much every Championship club, fails to turn a profit.
Derby County
Company name: The Derby County Football Club
Owned by: Sevco 5112, owned by Candy Crush tycoon Mel Morris
Turnover: £22.6m (£21.5m)
Pre-tax loss: £14.7m (-£10.1m)
Staff costs: £31.9m (£21.8m)
Wage-to-turnover ratio: 141 per cent
Highest paid director: £194,583 (£449,578)
Net debt: Not stated; £3m bank loan
Bank: Barclays
Auditor: Smith Cooper
Y/E: 30 June 2016That is the fees spent by Derby published June 17.
Blackburn Rovers
Company name: Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic
Owned by: Venky's London Ltd, owned by Venkateshwara Hatcheries Private, an Indian company with interests in poultry, processed food, animal vaccines and pharmaceuticals
Turnover: £22m (£22.4m)
Pre-tax loss: £1.5m (-£17.3m)
Staff costs: £25.3m (£30.1m)
Wage-to-turnover ratio: 115 per cent
Highest paid director: £150,304 (£177,969)
Net debt: Not stated, loans of £87.3m (£87.1m) to parent and £14.2m (£12.9m) bank overdraft
Bank: State Bank of India
Auditor: PM+M Solutions for Business
Y/E: 30 June 2016This is ours.
Everything about Derby's books screams breaking FFP in comparison to ours but it's only us who uses the rules as a refusal to spend in case of "non-compliance."
Wake up will you.
To put it into perspective in 15/16 they spent approx 40m and gained nothing. Didn't sell a player for a fee. That's a substantial increase in wages, fees spent and not a single figure to balance it back. No action was taken.
FFP is taken over three years apparently dont exceed £39M ..comply at the end and then you start again with another three year cycle? .This gives them two seasons to go gung ho but reign it in come the third to comply.Daft rules but seem to be the rules.
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Just now, Dreams of 1995 said:
Derby's transfer expenditure comes to approx £80m over the previous 4 years. From that they have gained approx. £37m back. This is taking fees only into account.
I'm lead to believe the selling club doesn't receive any additional funds (save bonuses/clauses) from a sale. Likewise they don't pay any fees. As an example, when Derby received approx. £37m for their players that is the bottom line save for any future % fee. The benefit is the lump sump/release of wages.
However, they have spent £80m on incomings. This sum is the fee to the selling club only. It doesn't take into account agent fees, signing on fees and, of course, the wage.
By a very crude measurement you'd have to expect that Derby's transfer outgoings are 75% higher than their incomings taking into account the additional fees occurred. Likewise, you'd expect their wage bill has got significantly higher simply by assessing their incomings vs their outgoings.
Their ST sales are irrelevant in comparison to their gargantuan spending over the previous half a decade.
Derby have already come to the end of their three year FFP cycle and complied .? so i presume they ve another three years to splurge until accountable again.
"The current three-year Financial Fair Play cycle is coming to an end, however, meaning Derby will have more flexibility when it comes to the summer transfer window."
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27 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:
I recall him saying he wanted to keep the owners ambitions in check or words to that effect but not about turning down a bigger transfer budget offer. He may or may not, I don't know.
That's the bit I recall. Which would imply they were willing to chuck money at it.
That doesnt imply they are willing to chuck money at it all ..could simply mean the owners gettiing giddy and carried away with themselves off the back of a promotion!
TM: " Hang on Hang on ..just coz we ve been promoted once doesnt mean its a regular gimme Mrs D ...."
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Just now, bluebruce said:
Anyone got a full list of all the young forwards and winger types that City have taken on this tour?
Full squad that travelled .
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6 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:
Hoban far too injury prone and not good enough. That performance v Barnsley still fresh in my mind.
Him and Gallagher, dont get the desire to bring players from our last failed Championship season. Need better.
IMO you can also add Chapman to these two ..300 minutes played over 14 matches for us ..two major injuries.
Big risk to sign
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I like it when Adam has major downers on Rovers ..his comments during match threads last season saying we re doomed ...we re going to get beat ...we ll never go up ..etc etc etc always transpired into the complete opposite ...so if Adam is on a downer i take it as a sign things will be ok !
You carry on Adam ...
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Benjamin Garre ..the new Messi ..?
Well its one of these lads !
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Just now, Butty said:
Kent has been featuring for Liverpool in pre season I think, let's see how he gets on against super Nyambe tomorrow
If he plays ..cant see him playing against his future loan club ..? maybe this will be a pointer ?
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A quick look at the Roverstore for an impending grandchild kit ..and it quotes " Colour Sky/White"...or baby blue yes BLUE as ive told my daughter ♥️
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19 minutes ago, Glosrover said:
It looks like a schoolboy has tried to draw a black atomic bomb in felt tip on a faded football shirt
Well it certainly needs blowing up !
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Just now, AllRoverAsia said:
True.
Blue has always been my favourite colour, apart from washed-out pale blues which I detest.
Still what's done is done and money saved.
That's a a better reply ..
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1 minute ago, AllRoverAsia said:
I know the history. Been there. Done it.
Have a look at which colour of blue dominates all our history, and on which side.
Woah big lad ..I was just posting a pic thats all ..as for the been there done it comments ..you're not on your own on here you know!
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More a nod to the founding years 1882
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Pi55y blue ..always took the mick out my dingle mates for having pi55y blue shorts ..
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Just now, Ladyboys of Bank Top said:
Called it.
this official ??
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1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:
I don't think it's us in for him, I reckon it's WBA.
If its W.B.A ..surely they wouldnt be dithering over £1M .
Jay Rod and Dawson muted to be going for big money plus the £3.5M ? they got for Johnny Evans.
Money not an issue i would have thought ..
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Just now, OJRovers said:
Good to see some of the players taking it upon themselves to get PT sessions over summer. The amount of money in the game, you'd think everyone would be doing this. However, from social media half the squad have clearly having a good time in Ibiza/Marbella/Vegas over summer too.
Nothing wrong in letting their hair down for a couple of week ! When i have my holiday i certainly dont include any extra work related activities ..
As long as they put in the hard work pre season they ll be good to go !
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Just now, Ladyboys of Bank Top said:
I think he fell off a building. Probably off his tits on Zammo's gear.
Zammo play for Uruguay ..???
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17 minutes ago, Hasta said:
Only If it leads to a goal or penalty.
If it leads to a corner which leads to a goal then the attacking team benefits. If it is borderline there's no real issue but I've seen a couple where the attacker was 3 feet off and the linesman played on.
Yep never seen as few offside decisions in games ..lucky if theres two a game !
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We re doing our business quietly ..and for a messageboard this is is hard to take because weve nowt to argue about !
Hot weather ..lack of rumours makes many on here tetchy !
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What England did last night was nothing different than clubs resting players in the early rounds of the FA Cup /Check A Trade .Even better guaranteed into the next round !
Could have played our first eleven .and still got beat ..picked up injuries ..cards etc and Southgate would have been crucified again.
I bet Shrewsbury wished they d sacrificed the Check A Trade like we did ..
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4 minutes ago, Ladyboys of Bank Top said:
Well backed down
Cheers glad you appreciate !
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Just now, Hasta said:
It's not really. There's a link to it in the transfer links thread from about 3 weeks ago.
ah ok my bad ..nailed on ...lets hope we sign the other 43 names linked ..
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35 minutes ago, Ladyboys of Bank Top said:
The link to Rothwell has been discussed since last January. Are you any relation to Nixon?
discussed ? or mentioned ? give over ..this is out of the blue
Thursday deadline.
in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
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And with Derbys so called three year cycle coming to an end they re free to splurge again ..no wonder Lampard said yes ...no way he d have gone there in a cost cutting season in order to comply to FFP.