Angry_Pirate

Nsiala or Bauer are both upgrades on Downing, Ward and Wharton. I would be pleased if either of those come in. Re: Tammy Abraham, he still doesn't have his next loan club does he, that would be an exceptional loan although you still feel a basement PL team will go there. IF we walked away from this window in a weeks time with Abraham loan, Bauer or Nsiala and Maddison or Armstong signed up... hat's off to Rovers. ... If.

Call it blind optimism but I feel we are working fully on the £1m+ target(s) currently. Once they arrive or fall through it will start the domino effect on the rest of our options. No way we can sign a backup GK first to swallow even more of the budget before we get our 'A' player over the line... saying that though, money can't be that desperate otherwise presumably the likes of Tomlinson, Nuttall and Gladwin would have got their loans and we could have paid Caddis off by now. I do actually think we will sign 3 and loan 1/2 more before the respective windows close and get at least 3 off our books on loan too. Maybe even a 'shock' outgoing - like Luitwiler. Hoping Travis isn't one of them to leave.

I find this concept of 'A', 'B', 'C' and 'D' lists as a load of illogical nonsense. I can accept there are positional lists - Bauer (A), Beavers (B) Elliot Ward (Z) - but if he buys Bauer for 5x the price of Beavers, will the money be available for the 'A' player on the Winger and Striker lists (Maddison or Armstrong) Basically if (overall #1) player 'A' is someone like Marcus Maddison, TM knows he can't afford his top 2/3 options for CB (Bauer) and striker (Luca Toni). There is probably zero chance we can get every player from his A list... we probably can't even afford all from B. The question is does he go and sign one 'A' player (Dack, 2017) if it therefore means all we can afford are scraps from list 'D'... a la Caddis, Hart, Gladwin.

I do understand the dismay from some on the likes of Nuttall, Wharton and to an extent Tomlinson being potentially loaned out due to lack of current better bodies at CB and CF. The fact remains that all are currently way off being reliable options at championship level and a loan to a top half pushing L1 team like Bristol Rovers is a far better option for Nutall. The choice of Lincoln for Wharton is the only issue I have with him as it rather him go to a higher league. We need a strong CB more than some people appreciate as we have Mulgrew in his final year and Lenihan who's reputation is trending upwards. We need a CB3 to come in now who we know will be able to be a quality championship starting CB in 12 months time, just in case... as I don't think Downing is at this level (however he is much much better than Ward) Forget long term, loans and whatever, for this current season; would you rather have Sam Gallagher (example) or Joe Nutall on the bench?

Season long loan?? #45 shirt? How many signings are we making, we only have a 22 man squad?

RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!

Im so excited I might just have to read the rest of this in the bathroom ? He was signed in January with (IMO) 100% the precaution of us missing out on promotion and losing both Mulgrew and Lenihan. Still, not like Downing would have turned us down this summer had we stayed in L1. In some parallel universe out there we are preparing for Luton away in our second L1 season with a team of Leutwiler, Caddis, Wharton, Downing, Hart, Smallwood, Tomlinson, Conway, Gladwin, Samuel, Nutall. The horror.

He does a lot of things well, and i thought he played very well for the most part yesterday as his passing and composure were better than it has been for months, but all you need to do is actually watch him when the opposition are counter attacking, it's appalling how slow/pedestrian he has become. There was one counter attack in the second half where Dack was dispossessed in the top corner of the penalty area when Evans, Nyambe and Bennett all forward in support and Smallwood near half way - fast forward 15-25 seconds and Everton had a scuffed shot from 12 ish yards out. Evans, Nyambe and Bennett were all back in our area with Bell, Mulgrew and Lenihan, whereas Smallwood was still at least 35-40 yards from goal. He puts not effort to try to get back as it will lead to more yellow cards - which now seem to be his Kryptonite. I genuinely feel that two from Bennett, Evans, Travis, even Davenport should be starting ahead of him, i honestly see him as our weak link and hope we can get another winger in to push Bennett back there for good and allow the likes of Davenport and Travis game time next to him. Smallwood should be no more than a squad player for us right now. Until he rediscovers what he had 12-8 months ago, he would be my 5th choice for CM. I'm sure many people will be fully disagree with me, however i have always felt he has been given so much support from the fan base simply because he wasn't Jason Lowe. Travis however, i see big things (and plenty of Red cards) for that lad!

Watching Smallwood jog back when the likes of Nyambe and Bennett are sprinting past him full pelt is really starting to grate on me. Beyond that, very happy with the team performance,. Our through balls need some slight work but you can tell this team has been together and has an understanding. Well deserve to be 2 up. The optimism may be returning. Everton look way off the pace tbh.

Antonsson grew on me after his debut vs MK Dons where I honestly thought it was the worst debut I have ever seen... including Garry Flitcrofts ?. He was much better as a LW/LF and had a knack of getting in good areas (much like MGP in his first few years). It was a shame when he got injured vs Scunthorpe around Xmas, however maybe that directly lead to us perusing Armstrong who did equal if not more for our promotion IMO. Doesn't change the fact that I was dreading the prospect of Marcus in the Championship, no way we could carry both him and Conway. Jeez do we need a proper winger.

Like him or loathe him, I miss the days of Nicko's thread with his (BS) 11 o clockers each day linking us to 4 new players... gave us something to talk/rant and moan about besides Derby's attendance, love island women and the managers fashion taste in players attire. This current window is more boring than the build up to all the Royal baby births combined. Can't wait for the game tonight......

True, but it would have been a whole other ball game that last day if we were two goals closer. All what if's though isn't it. What if Gallagher had kept it in the corner, what if Gallagher had got that stone wall pen vs Brisol etc. What if David Raya had played 46 games... What if the window closes and all we do is loan a few unproven premiership kids ?

Don't forget the team that stayed up by those two goals - Nottingham Forest - and the fact we won the corresponding home game 2-1 instead of 2-0, thanks to Steele literally dropping a simple cross into our own net in the 96th minute. 2 goal swing right there. ... Raya should be entering his 4th season as our #1, not his 2nd. Bowyer, L*mbert and C*yle are all as guilty for that. Other thought. Since there are no apparent imminent incomings, I've turned my thoughts to our U23's and convinced myself that Travis should be a weekly starter and is already better than Smallwood and Evans. At least he has a 3rd gear.

Well this is dull, something happen! ?? Can hardly wait for the game tomorrow night with us adopting the 4-6-0 formation again. Not suprised by this if true, which judging by who posted it, I suspect it to be. Another reason I currently can't see him lasting the season unfortunately. I want to be proved wrong, but I just don't sense any "real" ambition with the man. Never one to give Venkeys much credit, but I'm sure for the first time in 8 years even they realised they had a brief amount of feel good within the club and possibly would be open for a 'bit' of spending to keep the positive momemtum going. However all those players apparently wear caps backwards and ripped jeans. Time to prove us wrong, past time.

Even if it's only 1% which seems best case scenario since he's been at two clubs since. An extra £360k will do nicely. Wonder if the £200k from the Sky Aston Villa game will be rewarded as transfer money. ?

James McLean is one of the scummiest footballers going. I remember one Wigan game when he must have had two or three two footed lunges on our players. I rarely think this but i can't wait to see him get his comeuppance one day. This is assuming we beat Carlise away and make it to the 3rd round of the League Cup and draw Man City? I cant see it any other way.

Granted I plucked all the above figures out of thin air but fundamentally i hope you understsnd my point. We could have £5m and £50kpw but TM/Waggott seem like the type to quibble over this stuff more than most. I remember a time very recently when we were restricted to £10kpw per player and I cannot see how the likes of Bauer and Chapman deserve more than that. Madison has not played above league 1 and if he (or any potential Incoming player) is asking for anything near £30kpw then I support Rovers for not paying it. Afterall, one of Mowbrays main scripts this summer is about not upsetting the L1 team for last season by bringing players in on massive wages. Perhaps that's why we have re-upped half a dozen.

The hope is that it is us in for this Peterborough LW and it's just a haggle over fee/instalments and wages. Once that £2.5m, 15k a week piece on the board moves into place, we will be able to look at the Chapman's and Bauers of our list with what budget we have remaining. If we have say £3m remaining for transfer fees, and £30kpw for wages and know we can get Chapman for £400k at £8kpw and Bauer for £600k and 10kpw, it makes sense we haggle to try and get Madisson down to £2m and £12kpw meaning we can afford all 3 but are prioritising the main asset first incase we have to pay over our budget. I realise that was extremely Football Manager but that's what I'm hoping... seems very TM also.

That, 100%. How dare he wear a cap and have his shirt untucked... Didnt Bradley Dack turned up to his first day of training with a sparkling red sequined backpack, date a "celebrity" and go out on the piss as much as possible... yet is still far and away our most prized asset? C'mon Tony. Not to start anything controversial with this next comment just simply a curiosity but what are the odds of Mowbray being first manager out of work this season (sack or walk)?

Who is that #10 for us playi... Oh wait. Samuel looks okay wide right but nothing defensively. Looks like he is now no longer thought of as a striker. Lazy on that counter though. Thought we had some nice passing but not enough up front; Liverpool looked pedestrian but still could and should have scored 3 despite us playing 10 behind the ball. Expect more ambition second half! Evans off for Nutall. Mowbray playing for a replay??

Agree 100% Deadline day: Premier League Club X signs Player Y for £50m pushing fringe first team player to surprise loan... whilst Blackburn have wasted their budget on Rekeem Harper, Doniel Henry and Martin Samuelson.

Wide reciever for the Cincinnati Bengals. Would be an upgrade on Conway on the wing.

I do have hopes for Scott, but Bauer (or similar) is still a very important signing now as is loaning Wharton out to get more experience THIS season IMO. Just as when we had Duffy and Hanley depart in the same summer... Mulgrew (1 year left) and Lenihan (prize asset #2) are no locks to be here in 12 months unless we do a double promotion ?. Dack likewise. If we find ourselves in July 2019 with Downing, Wharton and Williams as our only CB options this place would (correctly) meltdown. Keep Wharton as cb#5 or cb#6 this season, so he is ready for next.

Question for someone with better knowledge of our U18 and U23 teams... who are (if any) the most likely to benefit from us not having any wingers right now? Any prospects?