27 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

A truly abysmal window. All we've done is paper over the cracks. 

IF we stay up, it's likely due to the players we already had prior to the window.

So, the plan all along was to sell Wharton and spend nothing. "The project" has been a smokescreen.

It depends how you judge it. 

Short term, this team / squad is not going down, imo. We’ve added some steel and experience as well as what appears to be our number 1 striker target.

                     Pears

      Hyam.    McFadz.    Wharton

JRC.     Sondre.      Fleck.       Pickering

                     Szmodics

              Gally         McGuire 

Subs - Wahlstedt, Brittain, Chrisene, O’riorden, Billy K, Carter, Dolan, Hedges, Buckley, Garrett, Ayari, Siggy, Leonard etc.

It’s the bigger picture and long term plan that worries me. Because 8 of those 24 players are either out of contract or on loan and for as long as we don’t spend any hard cash, the managed decline continues.

6 minutes ago, roverandout said:

I agree with that part. But did u say top 6? And a good transfer window?

In terms of short term, yes. I think the recruitment team have nailed the signings the manager has asked for on the budget they’ve been given. I also think this means we’ll stay up, potentially finish mid table and maybe flutter our eyelashes at the top 6….just my opinion.

But I am DREADING the summer. We’ve just made the problem bigger, stuck a plaster on it and booted it down the road in my eyes.

God knows what they’re planning but as @Ossydave mentioned…feels like a possible exit? Could get bumpy…

15 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Uh what?

It just all feels off, even for these lot…it wouldn’t surprise me if there were more cuts in the summer. More downgrading.

I hope I’m wrong.

1 minute ago, Bethnal said:

Adam Wharton’s exit interview has unexpectedly done me in, I am pathetic.

Me too…he genuinely looks like he could cry! 

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

McGuire is bonkers if he's opened up talks again with the club that had him travelling to Sheffield this morning cos they reneged on the deal.

His agent must be desperate for a pay out. I'd be telling my client to head back to Orlando and get his head down.

What if, what if…we actually did just inform them that the Wharton cash hadn’t landed, so they (DM and entourage) holed up waiting for the call and now the money has landed, so it’s back on?

I’ve located the two culprits…don’t worry, they’ve got everything in hand! 😅🤣

1 hour ago, wilsdenrover said:

The questions for me (to which I fear at least one of the answers will be no) are…

1.  Will we bring in a midfielder with better defensive capabilities than AW?

2. Will we bring in a striker who ‘knows where the net is’?

3. Will the above two ‘offset/outweigh’ the loss of AW’s creativity?

The answer is, they must!!

11 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

So this is looking the likely outcome of our window…

Ins:
O’Riordan
McFadzean
Chrisene
Ayari
McGuire (?)

Outs:
Hill
Travis
Wharton
Ennis

There is absolutely no way anybody can argue it’s been a success. If anyone had posted this as a prediction on the 1st of January they’d have been laughed off the forum or lynched. Anyone who claims we haven’t massively weakened our squad this month is either deluded or dishonest. Even if we generously add Buckley to the ins list, it’s appalling. The players returning from injury have been replaced on the treatment table by others. Considering we’ve been in free-fall for a couple of months our Championship status is very much being put at risk.
 

I don’t think it’s as cut and dry as you suggest.

The only ‘loss’ to the team there is Wharton. I’ll come back to him.

Travis hasn’t been playing regularly for a while and hadn’t figured at all really this season. Hill started well but tailed off and I’m confident that O’riordan and McFadzean can cover off any potential drop off from him. I’d go as far to say most fans would’ve gladly sent him back in favour of us signing O’riordan, a highly rated player on a permanent deal.

Chrisene and Ayari look like decent squad fillers and if we keep Gally then the signing of McGuire, on paper at least, strengthens us considerably!

So, back to Wharton. The truth is, he’s that good that selling him in any window would weaken us. The ACID test for this lot is that we MUST sign a CM this window, for cash. There’s zero excuse because they’re not ‘blocking’ anyone’s progress and they very obviously have cash. 2-3m on a good, young CM with some valuable experience, like Max Bird or Sibley, or the lad from Oxford that PNE fancy will keep most fans content come Friday morning.

To bumble past the window without getting a decent midfielder in is unthinkable. Imo.

I understand the McFadzean thing. Will have had endorsement from Hyam, short term deal to cover Carter and help bed O’riordan in. Awe don’t need another long term contracted cb. We need a short term, steady hand. 

I also don’t expect us to spend a fortune but after losing our best player for a record fee I do expect something like this..

Mcguire - 2.5m 

mcfadzean - Loan

Yates - Loan

CM - PURCHASE

lets see…

So that’s McGuire and McFadzean supposedly In the bag…I’ve spotted a cunning plan from Greggo!

We’re only signing players with Mc in their name! How we could do with McMahon, McCallister and McAteer now!

ps - Mcsheffry anyone?

2 minutes ago, Eddie said:

I'll take that bet.

Peak Tugay vibes? Come on. That's an insult to Tugay. 

Tugay. Vibes.

Yes, mate…that’s right!

6 minutes ago, J*B said:

Here’s where I stand.

22M guaranteed is a lot of money. It’s our record sale. 

Adam’s the best player we will produce in a long, long time. But the squad needs investment, we have three or four key positions which need strengthening and we don’t have the funds to do that without selling Adam. Selling a homegrown player for 22M means there cannot be any argument with FFP for years to come. Venkys and Waggott, your excuse is now null and void.

This is the “model” which we have been told the club will run by. Buy cheap — or develop internally — and sell at the best point for the club. 

So Gregg, here’s your chance. Your job is on the line. We need a goal scoring striker, a winger, a playmaker central midfielder and an experienced centre back. If you fail to get them, then you should be sacked for negligence. If the owners do not give you the money to do your job then you need to walk as it won’t get better than this. 

Jon, this is your chance too. If you get the four first team players needed and the problems we’ve been having continue then you’re not up to the job either. 

Adam, good luck and thank you for everything. I’m excited to watch you play in the Premier League, for England and one day finish your career back home.

The next 18 months are the most important in the clubs recent history. 

You just won the internet for today pal. Nailed it.

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I can see I'm fighting a losing battle arguing with The Football Manager or Fifa Generation on here.

All I can say is that for our Club selling our best player has rarely if ever resulted in an improvement in fortunes on the pitch, in fact usually quite the reverse.

Last time it happened was arguably 1974 when Tony Field was sold and Gordon Lee eventually rebuilt the side after a bit of a gap.

I'm also reminded of Spurs selling Bale. They wasted that money on a right load of old pony.

Give it a rest.

EVERY club bar the top 0.1% has to sell their star players.

It’s what you do with the cash that separates the men from the boys.

Lets hope we’re not the latter…

Great move for Adam, for Rovers and Palace. We get the cash, he gets a PL move to club where he will get games and WHEN he shines bright Palace will benefit, firstly on the pitch and then we’ll all benefit financially when he goes to a CL giant for £50-100m. I genuinely think he is good enough..

Now, PLEASE god, give the best manager we’ve had in god knows how long, the money to bring in 2-4 of the right level of players to bolster this team. 🙏🏽

3 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Yesterday's win against cannon fodder will blind some supporters (not on here) and some club officials that the need for reinforcements isn't as dire as it was. That's how clueless people work

It won’t fool anyone mate. It’s whether they decide to be ‘blissfully unaware’ that’s I’m worried about…

19 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I dont think thats right. We wont buy Yates without selling Gallagher. I think McGuire is a cheaper alternative to Yates should Gallagher go.

Also, if hes planning on playing wing backs and a back 3, either Chrisene was poorly recruited or surely he should play there. Playing people like Sigurdsson, Dolan and Hedges (he should be back by now so unsure if hes had a setback anyway) there is asking for trouble.

I think Yates is a loan and the one lined up either way. McGuire is a purchase and ergo more expensive so will only happen if Gally is sold.

I think Hedges and Dolan could easily play as wing backs in that team along with Brittain, JRC, Pickering and Chrisene. There’s lots of cover there.

I don’t know where Siggy plays tbf. He worked hard last night but I agree was completely ineffective in the wb position. He couldnt do any worse than Moran in that floating 10 position he played last night though…

25 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Issue with Yates is he always needs to be alongside a target man.

Could it be that Yates is lined up to replace Ennis as the second striker option and McGuire would replace Gally as the target.

With the three at the back, I’d say SS would thrive in that role Moran played (failed at) last night. 
 

                    Pears

       Phillips.  Hyam. Wharton

JRC   Sondre.  Wharton.    Hedges

                     Szmodics

          Yates             Gally

Still have Dolan, Brittain, Pickering when fit and Siggy for the wing back roles.

Carter when fit, ORiordan for CB

Buckley when fit, Ayari and Garrett for CM

Still missing a striker even if we keep Ennis and Leonard….?

16 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

His injury record is of course a concern, he runs himself into the ground and he is prone to muscular issues. He has played 42, 39, 37 and 34 in the last 4 seasons so its only this one where he has really suffered so the key if he stays is keep

Last season we didnt really create lots of chances ourselves, we were a pragmatic side for much of it. Yates did better with a bigger striker alongside him which he wouldnt have here. I think Yates is a bit more of a natural in terms of sniffing out chances but Gallagher we know can play that lone striker role and offers more in general play.

Maybe we have moved away from him anyway if indeed there was ever any serious interest, if there is truth that we are battling for McGuire. I wouldnt feel comfortable though letting Gallagher go directly in favour of a young MLS striker though as that seems like a gamble.

Reading between the lines and JDT’s insistence on experience, I think Yates and Phillips are the ones lined up and McGuire is additional if we sell Gally. 

So, based on the last few weeks, the return of  JRC, Hedges, Gally and Dolan, I would be happy to add Phillips and Yates on loan and sell no one. Maybe loan out Markanday, Leonard, Batty and Gilsenan.

If we sell Gally then do the Maguire deal on top of those above.

If we sell Wharton then I’d hope we’d have £5m to reinvest in this window…🤞🏽

So, I reckon it’s 2-4 in and 4-6 out (including young lads going on loan) in the next few days.

A professional performance. We never got out of 3rd gear, nor needed to.

Trondstadt, JRC, SS, Dolan and Gally played well. I thought Ayari looked decent when he came on too…

Garrett and Moran were really poor. I’m not having Moran, haven’t seen him play well yet.

Interesting few days ahead!!

9 minutes ago, rigger said:

The sticking point is that Rovers are insisting Gally plays against us.

Literally just spat my drink out reading that! 🤣🤣🤣

🤣🤣🤣