Just now, RTM08 said:

The Swiss will batter this lot unless they step up significantly.

If the Swiss go 1-0 up as they showed yesterday they have the quality to go and get that second goal to kill the game. Slovakia were dogged but second half they posed absolutely no threat offensively and were only intent on hanging on to the one goal lead. 

4 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Given some of the rubbish you’ve come out with on a number of subjects in the past, you’re right, we probably shouldn’t engage with each other.

I'll take that as you can't think of anything of note. I know you like an echo chamber.

1 minute ago, K-Hod said:

You keep saying this, but I don’t think it makes it any more accurate.

What has he ever done of note in nearly 40 appearances in an England shirt? Although if you threshold is having shots then perhaps you aren't the right person to answer that question.

1 minute ago, K-Hod said:

It’s okay to admit you’re singling him out, don’t worry about it, It happens.

I am singling him out because he has played nearly 40 times now for England and done nothing of note. I've read people of here saying about dropping Kane or Bellingham but they have shown why you don't drop them as they stand up and produce when needed Foden shrinks when wearing an England shirt. 

Just now, K-Hod said:

He actually had shots in the last few games though. 

He had shots. Talk about clutching at straws.

Just now, K-Hod said:

Foden is well harshly viewed compared to other players who’ve been bad and even worse tbh. Not played that well today, but last two games he was way clear of Kane and Bellingham who seemed to escape criticism. It’s a funny old game alright.

Because they have delivered when its has mattered most. The only time Foden has delivered in an England squad was in an Icelandic hotel room.

Looking a hell of a lot better without Foden. As I have said on here before Bellingham and Kane are levels above him in an England shirt.

Michael Oliver and Stuart Atwell an embarrassment to English football. Oliver never fails to make a game all about him and Atwell should have been banned from every officiating again after the goal he gave at Watford many years ago.

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Palmer and Gordon were subs, They made an impact when on. Playing Bellingham and Foden in the 8 and 10 role would improve us for me. Kane needs runners around us which he would have with this line up. 

Sums up England really when you are having to big up a player who played for 5 minutes and probably only touched the ball 4 or 5 times at most. Having seen Bellingham's passing last night I would not be playing him as a number 8, he is better of playing nearer to goal not further away. Ancelotti said something similar when asked about Bellingham being the heir to Kroos at Real Madrid.

18 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

Why do goals scored in friendlies count at international level but not club level!? 

They're still just practice games

He also has the most goals in competitive matches and the most goals in major tournaments for England.

5 hours ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

Thats only because he always gets picked and rarely misses a game and the entire team has been built around him for nearly 10 years! so just by law of averages he's going to score occasionally 

You do the same with any other half decent prem centre forward and you'd get pretty much the same results 

Score occasionally. He does a bit more than that he is England's all time record goal scorer. He's got nearly double the number of England goals as the rest of the squad combined.

3 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Isn't that a good thing?

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31 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

He wants to play as a #10. Bellingham, Foden, and Palmer are all better #10s. He doesn't have the pace to run in behind so he just clogs the entire thing up.

He currently looks like he's running with a piano on his back. Get him benched. 

Foden might be a better player when he is being coached by Pep and surrounded by his City team mates but he doesn't do it in an England shirt. I remember people saying the same things about Kane after the group stages of the last Euro's and he ended up as our top scorer. Opposition defences will be delighted to play England and see Harry Kane sat on the bench.

The most memorable thing Foden has done as an England player was breaking covid rules in Iceland to get his leg over. Talking of Iceland Foden played in the 10 role against them for England a few weeks ago and was as he usually is in a England shirt invisible. 

Just now, M_B said:

Others haven't, there is only one team in each group which can win it. The rest are runner up at best. 

The draw is what it is, I don't remember anyone particularly fearing Germany coming into the tournament.Didi Hamann was talking down their chances on the eve of the tournament. Were Scotland lucky to get into their group? 

 

A German team in a tournament on home soil are always going to be hard to beat.

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Baffling people don't want to start Wharton (he literally had Mainoo in his pocket when they played each other) or Foden (THE best English player in the PL this season) but want to persist with Kane.

Harry Kane has produced time and time again in an England shirt, Phil Foden has worn the shirt nearly 40 times now and has done barely anything of note.

2 minutes ago, M_B said:

What's that got to do with anything? 

They won their group, France didn't. It's tournament football, you get what you get. 

 

You said others (plural) hadn't done their job when I said England had got lucky with the side of the draw they are on. I am merely stating that the best 3 teams in the tournament so far to my mind have all got the job done and by the luck of the draw England have avoided being in their half.

12 minutes ago, M_B said:

Nowt to do with luck, England topped their group and did the job. 

Others didn't, so end up where they belong. 

Spain, Germany and Portugal (the best 3 teams so far in my opinion) also all topped their group. England's 5 points would not have topped any other group.

For the next game I'd go with the following. Get Stones in to midfield where he is very comfortable and allow Rice to play further forward. The left side is a huge problem thanks to the idiot manager so I'd play Saka there to try and bring a bit of balance.

                           Pickford

               Walker  Guehi   Gomez

                            Stones

TAA         Rice                 Mainoo       Saka

             Bellingham         Kane

1 minute ago, joey_big_nose said:

Southgate has a lot of short comings but he is incredibly jammy with the draw... Fourth tournament in a row with soft draws!

The luck he get's is incredible. He's served up 3 dreadful performances in the group but get's lucky in that it is one of the worst groups in tournament history, so he top's the group and manages to end up on the softer side of the draw. If previous England manager's had the luck he has with draws then England would have won something since 66.

This has to be one of the worst groups I have ever seen in tournament football. The only team that come out of it with any credit is Slovenia who are a limited team but are well coached and very organised..

Has Bellingham passed the ball to an England player yet

A lot of pessimism about England but the draw is opening up very nicely again for them to get to the final. If they can win tomorrow then Portugal, Spain and Germany (the 3 best teams in my opinion so far) will all be in the other half and if they don't win by more than Netherlands tomorrow then France will be as well. 

3 minutes ago, Mercer said:

For sure.

What's your problem with that?

Think he'd be sensational - much better than the other foreign managers we've had (Capello and Eriksson).

Klopp as a coach is not in the same League as Capello

46 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

My team

                 Pickford 

Walker Stones Guehi Tripper

           Bellingham Rice

Foden         Kane        Gordon

                   Watkins 

Playing our two best players and biggest goal threats out of position.

4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Foden since the last tournament has developed into a brilliant player, the best in the league.

Yes for Man City in the Premier League. But for England in internationals he has not produced the goods.

26 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

So that leaves the Foden and Kane dilemma. I dont think you can have all 3 in there in a balanced side, wanting to go into the same spaces. If Kane plays, you need pace running in behind, so Foden cant play. Eze is similar, Palmer is similar, even Bowen, not that quick. Gordon is the standout candidate. Alternatively, you keep Foden in, you play Watkins who isnt a top level striker but he stretches the play and allows more space for Foden and Bellingham.

If you are choosing between Kane and Foden then it is no choice. One has produced time and time again in an England shirt whereas the other has done little of note in nearly 40 games.