Fortunately we won our game and they went down. Be interesting to see how they get on next year and see whether mogga will return.

18 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Never ever say that under this ownership.

I expect the absolute worst from them and they still fall short of expectation 

Shall we get a sweep going for how long it will be for the billy bullshitters to turn up?

18 hours ago, alex l said:

You want us to wait for McFadz to sign elsewhere and then negotiate a loan? Even under Venkys that would be taking incompetence to a new level 

Would you be surprised though?

11 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Don’t actually see how they could do much worse 

I think if we put my dog in his position it would do a better job.

Certainly has more commercial sense than him that's for sure.

Sail him off into the sunset then torpedo the fucking boat.

In reality it's not even a rebuild it's starting from zero.

We need to sign 15 first team players. 9 of them need to be first pick starters.

13 hours ago, Penwortham Blue said:

Spot on historically Abbey but they have rekindled their supporter base with business sense, cheap tickets and relative success. Comparing Notlob now, a team that was going bust just a few short years back and our club, which is on the canvas after 14 hard rounds, is truly heartbreaking.

We wouldn't want to end up like them though.

28 minutes ago, Tom said:

I’d say, providing he is fit and well first and foremost, that Mowbrays stock has taken a slight increase 

One thing is for sure, if you look at twitter a lot of Sunderland fans are still annoyed they got rid 

Again just like with the Rooney appointment, he was followed by someone who was shit so it made him look good by comparison. The Beale appointment was always very strange to me.

We all know that Mowbray's level is eternally bumbling along in the middle of the championship. He's a perfect fit for a club that has just come up and is struggling to get established.

8 hours ago, KentExile said:

Apparently Liverpool want him as back up to Allison because Kelleher wants to leave. 

God knows what they have been watching all season if that is true, maybe we should send them a video of Wahlstedt?

Fuck that, give them both.

Buy one get one free.

1 hour ago, Andy said:

Agreed with this.

Before the last few home games, against sides we should be beating, he came out with things like 'just be competitive' and 'we don't really need to win'.

It's one thing trying to take pressure off the poor little delicate lambs on the pitch, but it's another spouting obvious bollocks.

We've gone from the straight-talking, honest and insightful JDT interviews to generic bullshit.
And I can't stomach it.

That's what's giving me the bad vibes.

If he's saying that publicly to the fans what's he saying to that load of soft twats in the dressing room?

We should have been well away from relegation a month ago.

16 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

As I said on another thread - they have a truly massive squad that must be costing an absolute fortune. Last time they had a couple of good players to sell to balance the books. I can’t see there being many clubs rushing to chuck big money at their existing squad.

Hopefully it'll be their undoing and they plummet back down to their rightful place in the lower half of the fourth division.

56 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Your first example, fair enough, that’s what happens when you get out of the habit.

The second one - shame on them.

I couldn't even imagine wanting to support another club.

As shit and disgusting as this one is now it'll always be my club.

If my son asked me to take him to go and see City or god forbid, the red scum he'd get a very blunt response along the lines of "you can fuck right off. If you want to go there you can fucking walk you little cunt."

I couldn't even imagine how my old man would have reacted to me wanting to support the red scum. Fortunately I was born a true believer.

There's only two things you can't choose in life. One is your family and the other is your football team.

You support your own local team. That's the law. Anything else is heresy and should be punished with severe flogging.

2 hours ago, Gordon Ottershaw said:

I've supported the club since 1975. It's been a massive part of my life but but early this season I decided to turn my back on it. At my age you don't want things in your life that make you angry and upset. You cut those things out of your life if you can so I did. I live overseas but was home earlier this year. I didn't want to go to Ewood but went to spend the day with my mates. I saw the Norwich, Millwall and Plymouth games. Awful, just awful. Such a terrible atmosphere at Ewood, so depressing. I don't blame the current manager, he's clearly limited but what can he do with that shower and a dysfunctional club? Ultimately we stayed up by virtue of a freak result. Were Leicester at it? If they weren't then we have that to thank for our undeserved survival. I have a horrible feeling of foreboding about the club's future. I believe next season will be catastrophic. I might check in around October to see if my worst fears are being confirmed. Otherwise life is too short to be made sad and depressed by a football club.

Fuck Venkys, utter scum.

Sadly sums up the whole situation.

Life long fans cutting it out like a poisonous ex lover.

A damning indictment of the virus that is Rao family and their associates.

12 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I thought the smiley face would give it away. I would deffo wat £20m for him. top league goalscorer and his peak years. Pay top dollar 

Take the zero off that and that's what we're most likely to sell him for.

1 hour ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

You are making up that he was happy playing for draws and then using that as the crux of your argument

That is very weird behaviour in my opinion

Well he said as much before the games " Plymouth Argyle isn't a must win" and the way we played suggested the same.

We've been incredibly lucky to survive.

The three wins especially -

Leeds - Just couldn't score for love nor money. We nicked it.

Sunderland - Shit season, in the middle not going anywhere and not really bothered.

Leicester - Already won the league and never even got out of 1st gear. Again, we were lucky not to concede with them easily getting through our sieve defence.

We never convincingly put some shit teams like Millwall or Plymouth to the sword. Bristol City was an absolute disgrace as was the Wednesday game.

Fair do's packing the defence away to two parachute clubs being content with a draw and possibly nicking the win, but we played the same way at home against some of the shittest teams in the division. Absolutely not good enough. The points return is shite.

Next year I'd give him a month or two but no more than that.

Sunderland, Bristol City, Plymouth Argyle, Sheffield Wednesday, Birmingham City, Preston North End. The minimum acceptable points from those fixtures should be 15.

22 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I was thinking Andy McEvoy when he scored that goal at Leeds. He never really goes for power but he  just passes the ball into the net like a lot of the top strikers do/did.

Apart from Shearer who absolutely smashed it in every single time.

He was also the best of all time so probably just an outlier.

3 hours ago, arbitro said:

Bang on the money.

Hit the nail on the head.

30 minutes ago, martonrover said:

Utter nonsense.

How did getting rid of Eustace work out for Birmingham?

I’ve just seen an interview with him on ITV and he had the class to say he is sorry they have gone down, (as a local lad he obviously supported them).
He walked in to a total mess here, on and off the pitch, and please don’t bother with the seven point gap stuff because the direction of travel was firmly downwards.

It’s not been a bed of roses, but he has achieved the objective and that is all that matters.

There isn’t a manager on Earth capable of suddenly turning us into a good team, capable of winning week in week out.

We had the worst defence in the league and he addressed that.

The real problems lie further up the food chain, meaning any manager / head coach will have his work cut out.

 

We all know the problems above him but he's still shit.

The fact that he was happy just playing for draws against some of the shittest teams in the league says everything.

He's here for the next two years regardless so hopefully he proves me wrong. Thus far I am yet to be convinced by him.

4 hours ago, Mercer said:

Think Tony Mowbray will call it a day at Brum now.

Given his recent health scare and Brum being 180 miles or so from his beloved Teeside, I don't think he will have the stomach to endure a League One campaign with Brum.

IMO, Brum's owners got it sadly, for them, wrong, not necessarily sacking Eustace but appointing Rooney and then due to Mowbray's illness, allowing Venus to run with the ball for so long when it was clear he was floundering. 

They got it wrong with Rooney and were very unlucky that Mowbray ended up getting crook.

I think moggasaurus will be back roaming the plains of mediocrity before we know it. He's a total addict.

Nothing against the bloke personally, I just don't think he's that good of a manager. I certainly hope he gets back, it's sad if he doesn't.

7 hours ago, martonrover said:

Disagree.

If I thought we’d bring in an upgrade I’d concur.

I don’t care about statistics to meet an agenda.

We were shipping goals left, right and centre when Eustace took over.

With one exception, he changed that completely.

Prior to Leeds and Leicester those games were being conceded by some.

We won them both.

The guy has earned the right to a proper chance next season.

There are no relegations on his CV, (unlike certain other head coaches I could mention).

Even though we won't bring in an upgrade he's not earned a chance for me.

He's shit. We'll be relegated next year with him at the helm.

2 hours ago, aletheia said:

And so the PR machine begins...

That's strange because that's not what I posted.

Actually I posted the exact opposite.

We stayed up.

Thanks Sammie & thanks JDT.

5 minutes ago, RoverDom said:

So what insultingly low fee are we selling Sammy for then?

In all honesty I wouldn't begrudge him a move to the Prem - as much as I'd love to see him stay with us. 

2.5 million.

"They met our valuation"