Do the drummers have special dispension to bring the tools of their trade onto the concourse? Would it be possible for me to bring my Klaxon to a game? It's only a bit bigger than the drum that the chap with glasses bangs away on. You don't really need any rhythmic ability in order to get a note out of it; anybody with sufficient muscle power to turn the handle could get it to make a sound. I think it could be used to build the tension in dead ball situations such as corners or direct free kicks as well as to herald the team's entry onto the field of play at the start of both halves, or just to warn the back of the BBE that Reidy is about to try and relive his JJB glory. When operated with some vigour it can be VERY VERY LOUD. Failing that, I could bring my xylophone (great for melodic work) or even one of my guitars, my mini marshall busker's amp and my jimi hendrix fuzz wah. What do you think? Any chance of a free season ticket or even the £25 I was promised for persuading somebody else to buy one and never got?

I saw that footage but wasn't at all surprised. I also heard Gary Lineker use the phrase "from Galacticos to bloody nose" to highlight Arsenal's contrasting fortunes this week. How disappointing it must be for the sycophantic media when their pet sides contrive to get themselves beaten. How fortunate we must consider ourselves to have the audacity to breathe in their rarified atmosphere. I'm just off to feed mi pigeons, walk the whippet, fix mi clogs and clock in at mill. Meanwhile, back in London, the Arsenal team-mates are consoling themselves with a bit of up-the-bum fun.............

What are you on about ? Both of those incidents happened in front of where I sit and I don't remember any chants like the ones you allude to. I distinctly remember "Rufus is a Rover...na na na na". And wasn't it against West Ham? And Rufus Brevitt crying? I seem to remember him being fairly tough and combatitive like Batty.

Not only is Savage's play-acting embarrassing it is also fairly pathetic and unconvincing. There's no excuse, it's inexcusable and in fact I condemn him for it. I was disappointed to discover that we were interested in him. I was embarrassed as a Rovers fan by the circus that accompanied his arrival ("I want to live nearer my family"....what a load of sh!t). I thought we paid way over the odds for him and he's not done much yet to justify the outlay. His contribution to the side (bar the flick for Bentley's hattrick goal) is at best one dimensional. For me this is the only real opportunity for criticism that can be levelled at Hughes.

Before I get jumped on, I'd rather see him change his ways, but since that appears to be unlikely then a good old-fashioned deadleg delivered regularly with spite and guile will suffice............

Just wanted to second this sentiment. Some of the antics that have permeated into the game are just bile-inducing. I'm looking forward to the day when somebody can actually catch that puff Ronaldo from Utd and give him something that he doesn't need to act out.

It's absolutely cringingly embarrassing to watch any video footage from Ewood Park, because the dull thump of the drums just seems to convey the image that the stands are occupied by a mass of dull-witted zombie-fied knuckle-dragging half-wits. As an extreme example, at the recent Utd league game we had one end of the ground unleashing their full back-catalogue............... and the BBE responding with............................. "GEH INTO UM" THUMP THUMP "GEH INTO UM" THUMP THUMP "GEH INTO UM" THUMP THUMP Brilliant

I sit in the BBE lower tier on the opposite side of the nets from where the rhythm-challenged din-makers usually congregate, and I'm one of a meagre handful that used to try to get a song going in the block where I sit. Even without the drumming incompetents, this is more often than not a pointless endeavour. On the few occasions that a song is picked up, it is swiftly obliterated by an out-of-time accompaniment. If you're tune isn't "Mark Hughes's blah blah blah" then it's pointless bothering - so I don't anymore. Everybody I have spoken to about it would rather put their fist through the drumskin than keep the drummers. They never start a song, merely join in on any spontaneous singing, often spoiling it with their ineptitude. While we're at it, why do we have to play some cheesy music over the PA in order to celebrate a goal? Apart from the Championship season, the atmosphere of the old BBE has never been matched.

Quote from BBC: "The Argentine [Messi] appeared to take a look at referee Terje Hauge before rolling around theatrically" It would appear he has at least one of the attributes nailed.

Maybe if you learnt to express yourself a bit better............... Now I get it, "Yeah his name's OnePost but he's posted more than once" followed by a self-satisfied guffaw. You were originally, and incorrectly, having a go at me for being sarcastic in my response to Den. Make your mind up, which one is it, sarcasm or irony? If you weren't so intent on being pompous, I might be inclined to agree with your observations on Friedel, and try to illustrate with examples his apparent weaknesses when defending play from his left-hand side. Which makes the save from Van Nistelrooy's header all the more remarkable. As it is, your moniker brings to mind a flaccid appendage................. Queue more hilarity from the undereducated twerp and Freidel's lovechild. By the way, Jansen plays for Bolton now, but I'm guessing that your avatar is neither ironic nor sarcastic but just another dimwitted display of hero worship. Hope the smiley helps you understand.

Hope that helps you through the comprehension challenges. You're right, now I can see my mistake and the error of my ways. Friedel never makes any mistakes, he's impenetrable and never puts a foot wrong. (For the benefit of Flopsy, the above is an example of sarcasm)

What's up with you people? Can't you read? "Although Freidel is undeniably going through a dip in form, HE WAS NOT AT FAULT for any of the "goals". For the McFadden missed opportunity I think he was." Everton's goal wasn't shocking, they exploited our weakness. Arteta "won" them a free-kick and proceeded to deliver the ball exactly were it would hurt, and Beattie timed his run brilliantly. It was a good goal, dissappointing but not "shocking". I think it's 7 clean sheets in the league, from which we have amassed 17 points. What's your point? I might say "How many times have we conceded more than 2" and lost 15 points. Clean sheets aren't solely down to the goalkeeper. Do you have to be really 'ard to live on Stone Island?

No matter how long you wait, some things never change. What exactly are the credentials to be a moderator? It's obviously not a grasp of English nor an understanding of the game of football. Where's the sarcasm that you refer to? Finally, I'm confident that there's not even a hint of irony in your name.

The dip came after those games, that's why I have referred to it as a dip. I'll assume that you agree with the rest of the post. Thanks for your input.

Just a few belated observations on Saturday's poor display. Emerton chased down the ball that forced their keeper into making his error, other than that he provided little threat. On reflection I wish the keeper hadn't handled because maybe the ball would have broken for Emerton to put it into the empty net. Then again we would have been relying on Emerton to do it (remember free header at Craven Cottage) It looked like we were employing zonal defending up to Beattie's goal then went to man marking immediately after. Everton were canny enough to exploit this for the goal as Neil was expecting Beattie to run into an offside position. As Cahill (showing all of his Millwall Championship team class) had done on the two previous occasions. Although Freidel is undeniably going through a dip in form, he was not at fault for any of the "goals". For the McFadden missed opportunity I think he was. Watching 45mins of the second half where Rovers let Everton retreat into their own half on losing the ball, then lumping a cross in to no-one in particular was absolutely infuriating. There didn't seem to be any sense of urgency, we seemed to be playing with all of the swagger and none of the quality of the top teams. In all honestly we're not that good yet. Bringing Kuqi on was the wrong move, because the threat that he poses is bread and butter to experienced physical central defenders like Weir and Stubbs. We were naive up front. The teams at the top of the division look for free kick's in and around the box and have players that can convert more often than not. Towards the end of the game we had 4 players on who are fast AND good with the ball at their feet (Bellamy,Bentley,Pongolle,Peter) but we never seemed to have a run at their defenders looking for the free-kick or even penalty. Most of the other stuff, like the lack of communication at the back and bellamy going deep, has already been said. Nervous again about Wednesday after that performance. Hopefully Sunderland will maintain their nothing-to-lose attitude and come out at us, and we can play in a "one more than you" style. Odds on for Stead's first goal?

Spurs 3 - 0 Rovers Let's face it, we are sh!te. Even Roman would struggle to turn our current squad into contenders. City 1- 0 Boro Spurs get into Europe on "Goals For"

PS Anybody got a liver donation for George Best ?

Anybody else heard this tune pop into their head today ? I know a fat old policeman He's always on our street. A fat and jolly red-faced man He really is a treat He never can stop laughing He says he's never tried. But once he did arrest a man And laughed until he cried! Oh ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Anybody else hear the melancholy sound of a solo violin ? Alan Shearer - one of, if not THE finest player to play fer't Rovers. HOWEVER...........he DID drop us in it when he left, and you can no more dress up the FA Cup Medal comment than you can polish a turd. Which is a shame really, because Newcastle are desperate for something to display in their trophy cabinet

Not sure its physically possible to sire children whilst still at junior school age. Never drunk Turkish beer. Can you get it at Bargain Booze on Livesey Branch Road ? Berkovich more creative than Tugay ? ................"You're havin a laff !!"

Are you for real ? Where the f do you get off calling your FELLOW fans stupid and morons. Only songs approved by you can be sung ? Take your rules and stick them where the sun don't shine.

Fortunately, you're not the manager. Furthermore, if who to retain and who to release at the end of this particular season was determined by your criteria, then we would have a very thin squad indeed !!!!!

1864roverite I think you need to read this topic: http://www.brfcs.co.uk/mb/index.php?showtopic=11799 NOT TOO OLD AND NOT PAST IT. Savage or Tugay ? NO CONTEST

Savage - for "Sometimes over the top" read liability and getting older and slower by the game. Pedersen - for "get-into-scoring-positions-quality", what happened against Arsenal and City then ? West Brom have a fairly leaky defence, would it be fair to expect that this is a good opportunity for him to score another important goal, and which of our goals this season haven't been important ? We're on -8 GD. Mokoena was never mentioned in the post that was originally referred to. That poster was suggesting that some players could be rested. I happen to agree that Pedersen too should be rested because his contribution over the last few games hasn't been much to shout about. Brownie, any chance of a reasoned reply you smartarse.

Is this the same "pedz" who hasn't managed to link up play up front positively in his last three outings? v. Arsenal - nothing v. Palace - OK scored a goal that was laid on a plate (but that he almost contrived to miss) and not much else. v. City - nothing bar long throws and the odd easily gathered corner. This guy's hardly prolific ability to score goals is his only saving grace. I myself will be somewhat dissappointed if Pedersen is still an automatic first choice next season. Tugay - still the best passer of a ball in the side, can't understand why he didn't get on against City. Flitcroft - better defensive midfielder than Savage (perhaps not better than Reid, who has improved immensely since treading on the ball against the Turkish no-marks) You should have stuck by your name. Thanks for your measured and considered counter argument. I am assuming that your moniker is redolent of the pungent steaming stuff that you post on here.