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4 minutes ago, Gav said:
I was once part of a group conversation with John Williams about Benny McCarthy and his attempts to force a move to Chelsea, this is nothing new Matty.
Players moving? No problem, always the way, indeed Waggott has been talking about players contracts, agents etc for months to fans - however, saying a long serving manager is about to get sacked after just delivering a big win? Not sure JW would be saying that at 5.15pm to whoever was listening in the suites…
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2 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:
Why are we all getting our knickers in a twist about how ‘unprofessional’ it may or may not have been? It’s of no consequence to us.
You are right, and I’m not going to turn down gossip, glad that he had your ear, it’s what makes the football world turn, but it speaks volumes of the calibre of Exec we now have.
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4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:Waggott was being honest with Rovers supporters. Would you he lied to Rovers supporter I guess? Then you would have something to complain about
Of course he shouldn’t be telling people like me!
These matters are for the employee and his employer, not for holding court with folk in the Premier Suite.
Basic bloody decorum and standards.
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12 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:
We aren't random customers but Blackburn Rovers supporters at the end of the day. We are all part of Rovers family.
Not really divulge any details of their contract as we all know who is out of contract anyway. No financial details were leaked to Paul.
Would you want Waggott to lie to Rovers supporters when asked simple straight forward question?
Does the manager deserve to have his boss going round the lounges, just half an hour after a steering his team to a vital win, telling all and sundry that he was about to be sacked from his job?
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Is it ‘refreshing’ or unprofessional? I was in the Premier Suite yesterday (a one off, prawn sandwicher, I ain’t!) and I spotted him, I was in two minds about engaging him re contracts - but never got chance as I presume that was you on the table, Paul, near the kitchen he was deep in convo with for a good while?
But if I had, as interesting as the snippets would be, I couldn’t ever imagine the likes of John Williams saying the manager’s on the verge of the sack half an hour after the whistle to punters in the club lounges. TM, like any employee, deserves more respect than that.
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It’s generally in the Premier Suite that Waggott does the rounds, I imagine he wouldn’t divulge the juicy info to the great unwashed outside.
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33 minutes ago, SuperBrfc said:
It's the backlash online that has wound him up. He's preparing those fans you mention in the ground to stand up against anybody who calls him out. "Tell them to shut up". The narrative is already being set that anybody who doesn't get behind this young side and criticises Mowbray isn't a proper fan. That's where the division aspect of it comes into it.
My point is, we are still a mile away from some big groundswell against him anyway. So in no way a comparison to the actual divide and conquer days of Kean or even Allardyce whose mere presence triggered many a row in the stands.
He’s the most popular manager since Hughes, by a very wide margin, still.
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But he doesn’t need to try and divide the match going fans, there is very, very little dissent against him.
Even after a 7-0 mauling there was a collective shrug of the shoulders.
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I spotted that from Michael last night. He’s always come across as pretty level headed on Twitter. Certainly not ‘negative’ to parrot a certain individual.
So reading that it brought home what this horrendous decade has done to the fanbase. A club decaying and neglected in all areas.
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How many tickets has he paid for in his life considering he’s been on the books of clubs/in the game since being a teenager?
The ‘flask and bovril on the terraces’ routine has always been a load of old blarney with him.
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So thin skinned if that’s his response.
Just shows what an easy ride he’s had from the fanbase throughout. Even after the worst home defeat in our history it was muted.
He’d have got absolute pelters anywhere else… indeed he would’ve here just a few years back.
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When are we reaching these sunlit uplands, 1864?
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37 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:
I used to have loads of players that I felt an affinity with and would always be upset when they left. Not sure if it's my age (37 now) or what Venky's have done to this club, but I can't think of many (if any) players over the last 5 years that I'd have been upset with leaving. Possibly Dack, but not even him now.
Not your age, I know folk in their 70s and 80s that still rave about, to them, ‘recent’ players like Tugay.
I too have no affinity with this last decade’s bunch and It’s largely due to most players passing through our doors being journeymen mediocrities.
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It’s only when you go to away games, see what the likes of Accy are doing on a shoestring that you realise what a soulless, run down place Ewood is.
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The majority of match going fans think Venky’s are the saviours of the club and we’d be ‘Bury without them’.
So why on earth would a protest take off?
(Standard anti manager chants on the back of bad results is a different issue - though he is still very popular too from what I can see). -
Like I’ve said repeatedly, you lose ST holders your gates drop, it’s that simple.
Yet that complete fool Waggott thought that whopping price hikes on the back of a pandemic and 18 months out the habit was the way to go.
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‘But, but… the ‘letter to the fans’!’
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3 hours ago, nathan_rovers1 said:
percentage wise yes but still disappointing that it is only 12.5, hopefully it will somehow get up to 15k, but pigs can fly
It’s £15, not a £5. Only a fiver dearer than Wednesday.
So why would 8000 non ST holders suddenly emerge to buy a ticket for a mid table second division game in November? (Especially on the back of that complete debacle).
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3 minutes ago, El Tombro said:
Do you really think Mowbray who, as a reminder, is the Head Coach, works on a two banks of four or any other type of structure in training? I've seen little evidence of that for as long as Mowbray has been here.
He doesn’t work on the defence, Danny Graham confirmed that on Radio Lancs the other month.
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End of the day, he didn’t go anywhere in the midst of that horror run last season, when even TM himself was as good as begging to be put out of his misery.
So there’s not a chance he goes with us a few points from the play offs, though we know the 2 points away will soon be 4 then 6 then 8…
He’ll be here to see out his contract… and it’s not out of the realms that he’s offered another.
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Aye, any kind of decent result last night would have seen a bit of a surge before Saturday.. can wave goodbye to that now.
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16 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:
They have a funny way of going about things by our conventional yardsticks
Ha you reckon?
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Performances are another thing the owners ‘have no knowledge of’ then, I take it - like the attempted houses on Brockhall?
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6 minutes ago, dingles staying down 4ever said:
and what happened to the manager after that? Even Venky's acted on that!
Yes, to get ‘their’ own man in… TM already is.
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Tony Mowbray Discussion
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TM… if he hadn’t have pulled that out the bag yesterday.