Pretty much all senior pros in their final year - Rothwell, Nyambe, Lenihan, BBD (post 12 month option) all don’t sign and that’s nothing to do with the ownership and the unambitious, stagnant club they’ve left to rot, 1864?

IF they appoint x, change y and transform  z… IF, IF, IF.

They haven’t done any of the things you outlined in 11 years Rev, so why would they start now? ‘I’ve heard that there are BIG changes in the offing, plans to… ‘ If I’ve heard that straw clutching once this past decade, I’ve heard it a 100 times.

Maybe they are just content to run the club this way, content to inject the cash, content to let the likes of Waggott tinker at the edges, content for ‘nice men’ like TM to quietly plod on. Minimum of fuss for all involved and they can concentrate on their poultry, their vaccines etc.

For me, it’s fantasy land stuff to expect this ‘new dawn’ that we’ve always heard plenty about, yet never remotely see any evidence of, over this sorry decade.

35 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

I honestly believe that you don’t really think that MB😅 his overall performance throughout his contract has been just about achieving but had gone stale! 

I wouldn’t be offering him a new deal, but I’m talking about the ownership and executive structure we actually have, not want brfcs posters would like us to have.

Are Venky’s expecting promotion with the current budget? Is there anyone at the club capable of sourcing a replacement? 

I’d say no to both, so why will they let him go and actually go to the bother of bringing someone else in?

Surely a new deal is in the bag if he wants it?
 

‘We can’t operate without their funding due to low crowds, match day and sponsorship income’.

Owners come in and totally dismantle the team, executive structure, support base and income streams and then be completely reliant on their good will to avoid oblivion.

Some operating model.

‘If only they would appoint top managers and executives’.

It’s been 11 years of this same tune, and they still can’t, or more worryingly, won’t grasp this basic premise of professional sport - why will they change now, when they leave the club to its own devices, never visit, never seem to set any targets for progression and seemingly have no issue in the status quo of throwing money down the proverbial toilet year after year? 

So what if there would’ve been ‘uproar’ on brfcs. It’s for the club to protect its assets, it’s bugger all to do with us on here.

I’ve absolutely no issue with whatever it is he’s doing, hope it comes off. I’ve also  no issues with the little cryptic tidbits posted by the likes of 1864 or Rev, or whoever. It’s no different than a bit of transfer gossip, livens up the board and you can take it or leave it.

I do have an issue with 1864 calling ‘negative’ those that don’t believe they have changed just because they haven’t had the dubious honour of a sit down with those that have said a lot this past decade and delivered the square root of feck all. 

If he wants to take what is being fed to him at face value after a decade of BS then good luck to him (especially after he’s been stung before) but I and others reserve the right to be just a little sceptical.
 

To be fair to you Rev, you’ve seen the positives in this ownership throughout, which has been a very lone furrow at times on here, so no issue with your optimism, it just rankles to be lectured by others who have been far more militant in their anti-Rao beliefs than most on here (until they were flattered with some tea and cakes and platitudes in recent times, by the sounds of it) but now are decrying those as ‘negative’ that are still wary of this lots ability to change. ‘Fool me once… fool me about 36 times’.

Yes, a St Paul conversion…

We may, but doesn’t look like it’s a priority for the club hierarchy.

Standard pricing (Cat B.) for Coventry, so of course, no thinking out the box to try and capitalise on the start. And I doubt we’ll see much of said thoughts all season.

Yet, small mercies, at least it’s not an ‘A’ game… though still £27-£30 in the JW Upper.

Feel sorry for Lowe?! He’s had a cracking career on the pitch and financially considering just how poor he is.

Very lucky lad.

*Checks messages*

Twenty years of toil on brfcs… all for nothing. 😭

Looks like a typical Burnley season, poor start, then come to a bit, and start winning enough games from October onwards. (Sigh).

Though maybe more of battle than previous years due to the number of goals they are conceding.

I imagine so rigger, there’s £32 to milk off a couple of thousand travellers.

Yet that means £34-£38 in the most popular stand for walk ons (JW), putting off thousands at a stroke and it will prove that Swag’s only concern is short term cash flow and no actual strategy to re-engage the fanbase.

In what way lucky? It was us that almost threw it away in the run in. United went on a storming run post the Cantona ban.

Then you are needing a floating fan to commit to two consecutive weekends, there’s often a reason why they aren’t a ST holder in the first place, I.e demands on their free time, work commitments, other hobbies.

Why not just £15 a ticket anywhere in the ground for one of the games? Coventry being a great example as they are riding high too.

12 hours ago, Bad Boy said:

It is going to be NO1 in the BBE.  It is more advanced than you think.

Interesting how that will go down, because away from that very top corner of a hundred or so who stand throughout, the rest of the block is packed with long standing ST holders, many ‘of an age’, quite a lot of small kids and families too.

The Championship is a much of a muchness. You really can spring out of nowhere to challenge.

We’ve had a team of grafters with a good team spirit throughout, but have been let down by muddled tactics and a constantly unsettled defensive unit.

If it was having his hand forced by a squad clear out (plus a couple of top players signed at this level in Kaminski and Ayala) and small budget or a road to Damascus moment on the fundamentals of what gets results at this level, who knows, but TM has finally got us back to basics and we can see the result. 

For me, it won’t last due to the thinness of the squad, but let’s hope he sticks with it and we can ‘give it a right good go’ until the inevitable injures hit.
 

It wouldn’t have lasted once the oil/nation state money came in, Jack would’ve been blown out the water.

But certainly for the rest of the 90s we should’ve been up challenging, the mistakes we made with recruitment and managers in the couple of years following Anfield meant we lost ground and never got it back. 

Surely not.

There’s a new dawn coming, a letter on poultry themed headed paper said so…

Without the takeover, I’d agree. 

However, after they were sold last year they are now owned by US private equity, who bought them using debt secured on the club, and they purely own businesses to use as a profit vehicle.

They stay up, the money continues to pour in, whilst keeping a tight ship, the model can work, they go down and there is a big hole in that plan… 
 

Sure I read that the Championship is re-starting a couple of weeks into the tournament.