I really can't remember poorer retention and distribution than we have displayed tonight....

Only prob with those substitutions is that we have two less last ditch blockers...

Very clever by Warnock. Elliott man marked. Brereton n Gallacher left alone to trip themselves up. Still cant see who will put their foot on the ball, it won't be Rothwell. Fingers crossed and hope is not a winning management style. I'm praying....

Brilliant, last ditch defending, Boro just not clinical. Our midfield can't regain or retain the ball. We are not organised. Our front two can't hold the ball on the odd occasion it reaches them. Trybull n Holtby not influencing the play in any way. We are soooo easy to play against. Hard to watch..

Not one of our players has had control of the ball for the last 15 minutes. Making boro look good. And they're not.

Really not a booking for Trybull. Unlucky.

Good, patient possession. Need to keep it up, as will have to give our strikers a couple (or three) very simple chances tonight. Lookin shaky at the back, even more reason to keep posession. COYB

....but we WILL win games when we have our 1st 11 fit....

We're finding it much more difficult to score when it's 0 -0, than when we are 2 nil up. That's down to quality and temperament. This is difficult when we need to score 3 or 4 to win games with our 2016 defence. Sigh...

I'd be very happy with a point looking at that line-up. All down to whether we can manage to score as many as we concede. As always. COYB!!!

Unfortunately, when analysed without emotion, we have been unable to match, dominate or beat anyone in the top half. When this changes consistently, we can talk about a top 6 challenge. Regardless of recent form, we will not be promoted with Williams in the team. I know this is currently a controversial statement, but nobody has EVER suggested he would be the answer to our defensive inadequacies, either in our relegation season, or today. We will contunue to be an entertaining team that ships goals. This is heartbraking, as just like everyone else, I have been swept along on the tide of emotion as we have soundly beaten the struggling teams, and made some positive signings. The Forest result showed more or less where we sit in the division.

We all agree about Gallagher being played out wide, but just as relevant is how many times he lost, or was unable to control the ball tonight. Every time it came to him? More or less. If we play him in the middle, he will score 3 or 4 more goals, but will break our attacks up single-handedly just as much as he did tonight. It. Is. Not. The. Answer. Having said that, BB was equally guilty of elephant-like ball control until a month ago, but we have been watching SG for 5 years. It's a long apprenticeship, and it will be a lot longer, I'm afraid. What is TM seeing to keep persevering???

Regardless of current form, I don't think we'll make the top 6 if we build our defence around Derek Williams & JRC. Regardless of their limitations, I think we should go with Nyambe, Ayala, Lenihan & Douglas, and stick with them til xmas. As always, we will need an Aderabaiyo in Jan if we are to make the top 6. We need to tactically match the top teams, which may be our downfall. The earlier point about having the same central defensive partnership as 4 years ago, says it all at for me, and only Tosun's loan spell has papered over the cracks. How a single game can change your total mood and outlook is worrying. For me, anyway. Feel better now I've shared.... Will be back with undying optimism by the weekend.

Ooops, sorry. I'm way behind, cheers.

I would take Douglas off, as he needs a run in the side which an unlucky 2nd yellow would delay. No more bookings today should be the advice. I really think this squad will now challege the better sides, there aren't many, and not just the cannon fodder. COYB

Like every Rovers fan, I'm desperate to be proved wrong, but the fact that our £12 million strikeforce will both be on the bench when everyone is fit, is all I need to say on this.

When the 200 million is written off, and we are in the 18 team Premier League, we will begin to recover, but we will never 'get over it'....

I think the point about this untimely Venkys debate is that when someone criticises them in any way, most Rovers fans, after 10 years of pain and depression, accept and understand this sentiment, and when one of us points out any positives from their reign, most Rovers fans cringe, wince, and try not to respond negatively to such premature naivety. Anyone that continues to forget, forgive, or appease will continue to attract derision and consternation. Sorry.

Our surprising (but definite) starting line up this season: Kaminski Nyambe Lenihan Ayala Douglas Holtby Trybull Johnson/Travis Armstrong Dack/Brereton Elliott When fit, Dack will play a No 10 role behind Elliot and Armstrong, or in a flat front 3, with Holtby pushing forward, if Elliott plays more traditional winger role.

Sounds crazy, but as well as quality defenders, we need a 15-20 a season goalscorer by 16 Oct. (to be more assured of a play-off spot). Around 13 million should get us one. Oh...

Apologies for the ignorance, but can we still lose Armstrong, or anyone else, to a PL club til 16th Oct?

Interesting comments about Nyambe. I honestly rate him as a decent defender, but if he's not performing to his usual levels, I think it is because Mowbray hasn't backed him and played him every game as he has always performed when he has had a decent run of games. I think he has got the ability to create chances in the final third, as he has shown over the last 2 seasons. I would play play him every week, and watch him blossom.

Very happy that our stellar goal difference means that we'll go into the next round of games in 6th place. This is the pivotal opportunity for TM to recognise what does or doesn't work after an experimental 5 games. If he does, we march on, but suppose that can be said of every manager. Good times, tho...

If we are judging Gally, it's on 2 or 3 season's performances. Has anyone asked Mowbray what he saw in Gallacher to pay so much money for him? Was it his reserve performances for Saints, or his on-loan efforts? Poor Gally and Ben will always take stick when we don't perform, but they are very easy targets, and they are the difference berween us finishing 6th and 9th....sigh....