3 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Armstrong scored 5 when employed as a wide man. In 44 appearances.

It really is that simple.

1 minute ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

All we know is that AA is only the 20th player to score 20 league goals in a season in our club's history. When Gally achieves that it will be worth discussing in relation to AA's achievements. 

Again, self-fulfilling as he won’t as long as Armstrong is here.

1 hour ago, Athlete said:

IMHO Mowbray needs to go and has done for a long time along with Waggot and Venus 

Unless Venkys get lucky with a agency recommended appointment we will be rinse and repeating same scenarios with debt to the owners rising yearly .

The cancer will never go whilst owned by Venkys

I would take a admin and come out the otherside anyday

It’s interesting isn’t it. The link between SEM, HSH and our managers is strong.

But why don’t Venky’s just appoint a different organisation to run the club? Is Pasha employed by them? Are they bound by a long term contract? Is there a question (still) over ownership?

Do Venkys have any control or judgement or are their hands tied?

11 hours ago, Tom said:

My worry is we will win 2-3 on the bounce at the end of the season and all will be forgotten.

‘he should be given the chance to build on it’ etc etc will ring around the Twittersphere

“Judge him after 10 games”.

“Most of these players are new and need time to bed in”.

“He needs at least the January window”.

It’s really hard to see what is going to change before Mowbray leaves. He has a contract until Summer 2022 and a CEO that won’t hold him to account. I could just as easily see his getting a new contract as leaving.

37 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Wiki:-

BB -  5 goals/34 Apps

SG - 6 goals/31 Apps

AA - 21 goals/35 Apps

Half his goals in twice the appearances.

How do you solve a problem like Maria  Arma

Strikers played on the wing score fewer goals. Who knew?

34 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

No, if we were playing with a striker who wasn't as good as AA, who is the fella attracting interest from West Ham Everton and Newcastle. 

Who did you have in mind to replace him from our other strikers?

You can’t genuinely believe that nobody but Adam Armstrong could get 20 goals from 160 shots with the team set up to do exactly that.

If Gallagher had been treated the same way Armstrong has: played centrally, had the team set up to get the best out of him and had been played consistently every week for 90 minutes even when badly out of form then he would be a far better player than the one you see today.

29 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Verdict: Just where would Rovers be without Adam Armstrong? | Lancashire Telegraph

A balanced journalistic piece by Sharpe. 

I think we definitely all agree that without him we'd probably have gone down. 

Only if we had been playing with 10 men in all those games.

Without him and with Mowbray? Maybe.

1 hour ago, Hasta said:

If you go onto the championship predictor and put in the results you think for the rest of of the season, you really struggle to get rovers relegated. Even if we don't pick up another point.

I think we’ll get enough points ourselves but it’s more likely other teams won’t get enough to catch us. However, it is possible to lose the last five games as we saw with Hull.

Even if we don’t lose them all, unless we improve our form we could set up an interesting final day:

Draw 2 Lose 2 in next 4 (while everyone else draws)

Draw 1 Lose 3 in next 4 (while everyone else draws)

Key games:

Rotherham v Coventry

Rotherham* v Birmingham

Preston v Derby

Coventry v Preston & Derby v Birmingham

Rotherham* v Rovers

* if they can avoid defeat to Coventry, Rotherham need to win both to have a chance of catching us.

If the worst happens and it gets as that far:

W46 Rovers v Birmingham & Coventry v Derby

In all honesty I think Rotherham may run out of steam. Although they play more teams with nothing to play for than us, they have four games between yesterday and next Sunday, including Tues against QPR and their crunch game against Coventry two days later.

If Rotherham do capitulate (but scrape a point against us) then Derby and Coventry playing each other would keep us up on goal difference. But that requires us getting three draws out of four.

We have five cup finals in front of us, win one and I think we are safe.

4 minutes ago, Aqualung said:

Considering Brereton, Gallagher Dolan and Elliot s efforts don't amount to Armstrongs efforts I fail to see where the goals would have come from. 

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you aren’t being deliberately obtuse.

If they aren’t getting chances because one player is hogging them then they won’t score. As per the link, he isn’t just the highest shot taker at Rovers but in the entire division.

26 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

A contradiction. 

Not at all. There is a heck of a lot of money in the PL, £20m is nothing, and his goals scored stat will fool potential suitors.

However, it’s more likely we’ll get £8-£10m from one of the newly promoted teams.

20 minutes ago, Aqualung said:

Take Armstrongs goals out of our shitty results and we would be looking backwards at next seasons league one fixtures. 

Stats mean bugger all to me. Points on the board are more important. 

Strongly disagree. Other players would have scored.

However, good points made above about Mowbray ruining Gallagher and, to a lesser extent, Brereton by putting them out wide. The only reason that makes sense is that he was trying to increase Armstrong’s financial value.

Let’s hope so and that the next manager gets to spend it. Because, thanks to the decimation done to the rest of the squad, by this Summer, he’s going to need it.

28 minutes ago, The Hypnotic said:

There’s nothing wrong with playing for yourself when you’re scoring more goals than the rest of the team combined.

Don’t you think it’s possible that this is self-fulfilling?

Even when there are players in a better position than him he will shoot rather than pass. This isn’t me being churlish, it’s something I’ve watched.

Our one win in the last 15 games... Armstrong wasn’t in the squad.

Our next two games were a draw against Swansea and a narrow loss to Brentford (an Ivan Toney penalty). We also drew with Norwich without him. (Three of the current top 4).

We look more like a team when he is not playing. It’s not the first time I’ve said this.

I don’t even necessarily blame Armstrong. Goalscorers are naturally greedy but this guy appears to have a remit to ‘shoot first think later’.

Don’t just take my word for it. Before today’s game:

- Armstrong has registered 156 shots in 34 games, translating to 4.78 shots per 90 minutes, most by any Championship player.

- 65 shots have been on target and he leads the table for most shots on target per 90 minutes with 1.99 shots on target

https://princerupertstower.com/2021/04/07/everton-scout-blackburn-adam-armstrong/

Yes, he had got 19 goals (21 after today) but that’s (now) out of over 160 shots so about 8 shots for every goal. Less than half of his shots are even on target. He also has 4 penalty goals in that (and 3 misses!). Which actually makes his goal stats slightly worse.

He is hugely overrated. I just hope we can get a £20m+ fee because of how much Mowbray has invested in him (to the exclusion of everyone and everything else). However, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least to hear him get sold for an undisclosed fee. Who knows, maybe even a bonus for certain senior club staff?

Very early thread - although proper match threads are no longer a thing - but with Prince Philip’s funeral now arranged, oddly, next Saturday at 3pm I’m wondering if the kick off time will change.

21 minutes ago, The Hypnotic said:

I don’t get the Armstrong hate.
 

He’s actually scored more than enough for 3 of our players and constantly drags us out of trouble. When he goes we’ll be lucky to get a striker that is anywhere near as consistent. 

It’s not hate, it’s his strike rate combined with our awful form and league position.

He plays for himself. If you can’t see that you must not be watching.

If we are to progress we need Mowbray gone and a different remit to, or sale of, Armstrong.

Ideally we will get a large fee before he ends up injured or able to run his contract down. Not sure Mowbray has made a fee on a single player though? Was the Raya fee ever published?

20 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

Just read the match report on BBC. One thing that struck me was the following phrase: "Blackburn, without a win in 7 games, remain in 17th."

Now whilst this is factually correct, what it does for fans of other clubs, armchair fans etc. is minimize how bad our run is. Sure, without a win in 7 is still bad but it's nowhere near as bad as one win in 15. Basically the stat halves how dire TM and we have been of late. No wonder people think he is a good guy doing a good job if this is how things are reported. 

Which is exactly why solitary wins are so bad for the club but so good for Mowbray. They reset the clock.

Even with today’s injury time equaliser it’s one win and nine defeats in fifteen games.

No manager survives that at any other club.

Questions should be being asked - at the very least by the local press. Maybe if they did that they wouldn’t be so reliant on advertising.

1 minute ago, jim mk2 said:

Not really

8 points out of 45

I said big not good. Before the game I said we needed to win today.

Today’s result will be used as evidence that Mowbray still has the players. If there was any chance of him going (there wasn’t) then there certainly isn’t now.

We now go into our last five games against all teams below us and fighting for their lives, with Mowbray still in change.

One win in 15.

Just now, Tormund said:

Wish he had passed then.

Objection: argumentative

That’s a big goal in the context of our season.

Just now, simongarnerisgod said:

wycombe now losing🙂

We shouldn’t be worried about Wycombe in any case.

It’s all about Rotherham.

It may even be all about Rotherham v Rovers in two weeks.

Someone should put together a compilation of Armstrong misses.

He must shoot enough for any three players.

1 minute ago, Proudtobeblue&white said:

Current table 17th, 10 points off relegation.

The team we are 10 points ahead of still have four games in hand.

Brum were 21st and now one point and one place behind us!

Five subs!

1 minute ago, Tormund said:

2-1 Cardiff hahaha

Thing is, it really isn’t funny.

Bloody hell