2 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Like I said previously we still hadn't completed the fleck signing.They were trying to get other players In the door 

Was Ennis fully completed?

He could have been doing a number of things ,taking calls from clubs enquiring about our players ,taking calls from clubs/agents offering players, contacting clubs asking about loans, negotiating with fleck .

We dont hear about everything that happened on transfer deadline day but I'm pretty certain at other clubs the dofs ain't sat around submitting documents .Now if it turned out the documentation was filled out incorrectly then I would be putting blame on Broughton, but an error like clicking save instead of send, i dont think Broughton can be blamed for not believing someone would be stupid enough to do thst 

You're going through some pretty tortuous mental gymnastics to absolve GB of any blame I'll give you that.

End of the day he's ultimately responsible for failures on the football side as DOF. Just as Venky's are ultimately responsible as owners

32 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said:

Come on, let's leave people's names out of it.

It's been suggested that these two have left the Club. Why shouldn't we discuss it?

Like SG I've never heard of Mr Hassan or what role he holds/held at the Club so I think it's worth clarifying.

7 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Yeah but according to the athletic everything was correct with the paperwork it just wasn't sent off,someone clicked save instead of send

I don't agree that's Broughton's responsibility,we were trying to get other players in aswell.If the paperwork was checked over and it's true that someone clicked save instead of send then the blame lies elsewhere for me.

In saying that if I was Broughton I would leave of my own accord, budget slashed in summer and then being told you can't have any of the Wharton money after making bids for players earlier in the day.

 

Where else did Broughton have to be other than check everything went through smoothly?

6 minutes ago, Polky said:

It just gets more embarrassing as the days go on…

Nor sure I believe that if you were looking at screen you'd see it hadn't been sent. Sounds like someone trying to make theomission more understandable to me.

8 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

He’s lost @RevidgeBlue ‘s vote with that 😁😁

I noticed that. Thought I'd let it slide. Lol.

16 minutes ago, Ricky said:

Absolutely. When we’d agreed a fee for about half this previously. 

Obviously it's insanity but in reality it probably wouldn't have mattered if the purchase option was £100m we clearly never had any intention to make the deal permanent.

Were maybe hoping he'd see us through this season.

26 minutes ago, Mike E said:

If the statement from last week was a lie, spinning events to appear reasonably positive, what’s the betting that today’s statement is a similar lie and the reality is even worse than that ineptitude?

Ie: Sabotage rather than error.

It does seem a stretch at times to believe that this is error

When

a) It's happened twice

b ) It never seems to happen with outgoing deals and

c) It only seems to affect the higher profile/ higher cost incoming deals.

If you take the view it is sabotage I'm not certain it's the owners agreeing to deals in the first place then pulling the plug on them at the last minute. As bad as they've been as owners and boy do they need to sell up now that particular  scenario doesn't make any real sense. I'd be more inclined to think it was one of the bean counters at Ewood like Pasha/Waggott worried about missing their targets and putting a spoke in the works.

Either way we either have owners who are agreeing to deals and then pulling them at the last minute and making the Club a laughing stock and the management at Ewood are just going along with it and continuing to draw their salaries or we have rogue employees sabotaging deals either deliberately or by incompetence and no-one neither the owners nor the rest of the management are doing anything about it.

1 minute ago, Lancaster Rover said:

There is zero chance the EFL will approve it, waste of time and money. 

We're trying to convince the dimmer parts of our fan base that really this is only a minor error and that our superslick legal team have got a watertight case and therefore that if there is any justice in the world that the nasty EFL should just wave it through.

Just now, roversfan99 said:

Its been acknowledged as an error. I presume people will be sacked with immediate effect now...

*Tumbleweed*

1 minute ago, arbitro said:

It's really incredible that it's happened again and that they are appealing the decision. And had they not messed McGuire about by calling the transfer off and then dragging him from Sheffield then nothing would have been rushed. Amateur doesn't do this and last January's fiasco justice. 

Lack of time doesn't appear to have been a problem. They say all the paperwork had been completed in time, we just didn't submit it.

You wouldn't expect this sort of incompetence at Non League level and it's happened twice.

4 minutes ago, alex l said:

Yeah about that apology I was hoping for...

By our standards, not a bad statement. At least it admits an error was made.

It is I think though insulting everyone's intelligence to suggest either that the EFL will overlook the error as though it were a minor issue or that we will ever sign the player on a pre contract agreement.

He probably breaks out in a cold sweat at the mention of the words "Blackburn Rovers" by now and who could blame him.

Just now, TommyRovers said:

Ooopsies

Surprised you're still on here after faithfully assuring everyone Saturday lunchtime  there'd been a hitch but that he would still be registered as a Blackburn Rovers player.

Why do you pretend to be ITK? You just make yourself look silly.

24 minutes ago, alex l said:

The poor player is back in the US isn't he?

20 minutes ago, FE123 said:

Still a deafening silence from Ewood 4 days on. I’m sure there will be a lot of infighting whilst they decide who will take the blame for this one. They threw Broughton under the bus last year and know by doing so again it will ultimately cost him his job.

It’s a scandal. I have always been appreciative of the financial backing over the last 10 years but there is no reasonable excuse for this latest debacle.

There is no way our club can improve or even sustain under this current ownership model.

”But who would buy us” is a nonsense argument . Has there every been a club that hasn’t been bought when up for sale?

Well, they didn't exactly "throw Broughton under the bus" last year, either he owned up to it because it was his fault like he said or it wasn't his fault in which case it was obviously agreed between everyone that he would front up to it with no comeback for anyone.

Either way the failure of a transfer like that is his responsibility as DOF. And its now happened twice.

33 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Perhaps the finance dept in iNdia were expecting Gallagher out to cover this and when they heard that wasn't actually the case the plug was pulled.

Left arm, right arm, massive time void between here and India.

The Ennis fee would have covered the Mcguire loan fee though which I suspect was why the Mcguire deal was resurrected in that fashion.

Its nice of the LT to come sheepishly to the party albeit a couple of weeks late. Remember Jackson originally described people commenting on this as being "sensationalist".  Perhaps on balance his paymasters decided it would have made them look very foolish if for instance Rovers had gone into administration and they hadn't even acknowledged any goings on as previously was the case. Good to see that they are finally on board though as it will increase the pressure on the Club and they might not be quite as inclined in future  to simply put out the usual offerings of PR fluff from the Club to pacify/mislead the fans.

Nothing new in the LT article that we couldn't reasonably deduce from the fact that the original Mcguire deal was pulled mid flight and replaced by a proposed loan deal. And we knew previously the Court hearing had been postponed so financial issues were likely.

It STILL doesn't explain though how we managed to fuck up the loan deal (like 12 months ago) after it was authorised.

 Reverting back to your first paragraph the most sensible move of the window would indeed have been to offload Gallagher and bring in Mcguire permanently at zero net cost. We don't often do sensible though.

Everything been brushed under the carpet today then?

JDT refusing to walk without a pay off, owners refusing to shell out to pay him off, our DOF mute as usual on the window in general and Mcguire in particular and as with 12 months ago no obvious accountability for anyone for another calamitous failure?

10 minutes ago, Ghost7 said:

Only people with integrity will walk so that rules out Waggott. End of speculation.

and Broughton seemingly, as I predicted.

But hey - sacrificial lamb slaughtered, nothing to see here, business as normal.

30 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

I not agreeing or disagreeing with you here but if the sabotage thing was to be true…Surely professionals like GB would have jumped ship by now? Other than maggot and suhail who would put up with that?  JDT tried to jump ship in the summer but looks like we managed to persuade him to stay.

Yes, even if you assume GB is completely blameless in this latest fiasco (and I don't actually believe it's his fault we seemingly had to swap from Permanent deals to loan deals) if he nevertheless doesn't resign and tries to present the window as a success then he is obviously happy working under those conditions and is completely complicit in the entire charade.

So if we're going to afford Sylvester the defence used in support of GB's innocence, wonder why JDT didn't say "

I suggest you direct those questions to Ian Silvester" then?

3 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Well I'm glad you've fallen for Waggot's bullshit hook, line and sinker. 

What's BS about that?

Waggott is responsible for the Commercial side, Broughton the football side.

Ha! on both counts.

23 minutes ago, roverandout said:

This Is what we're up against 

 

 

There doesn't seem to be any recognition whatsoever on the LT comments or on certain fans groups that we're at the mercy of an Indian Court and that it's the owners' fault because they made illegal payments.

It's like it never happened.

Mind you most on here seem to be equally in denial that certain  employees at the Club could ever do anything wrong.

19 minutes ago, 47er said:

What would be the point?

Don't be so cynical.

We'll never have any problem ever again and everything will absolutely fly through in future now "the culprit" has been unearthed.

5 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said:

Just to repeat: after last January's episode, which probably caused us a play-off place, SW stated that he should have been overseeing the transfer processes.  So we can only assume that we "was in the building" this time and at some level in charge.

 

38 minutes ago, tomphil said:

How come this vastly experienced guy who has overseen more signings than we can even remember has

suddenly lost the ability to do his job ?

Also how much will it cost to pay him off and shut him up !

Plus...... Broughton accepted full responsibility for the O Brien one anyway.

33 minutes ago, phili said:

Silvester appointed by Venky's. During Williams and Finn time he was Liverpool club secretary.

Thank you. I do seem to remember Tom's title was Club Secretary and Sylvester was dubbed football Secretary but again I stand to be corrected.

3 minutes ago, Tim Southampton Rover said:

They'll probably put the prices up. 

Yup.