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1 minute ago, Goozburger said:

Perhaps a financial expert on this matter can fill us in, but doesn't the club lose around £10m-£15m per season just by standing still? That would require a sale of Sammie and a bit every season to keep the club running. Not realistic because we aren't going to product that every season in my view. So somebody has to plug that gap. And my point is that new owners would have to do the same.

One point you dont seem keen to acknowledge. All Championship clubs make losses and their owners all offset those losses, without the fanfare. Its not just a Rovers thing. In fact, I have read that even in the Premier League, only West Ham made a profit last year, as their stadium is funded by the government. Football clubs make losses. Yet are all owned by people who offset them.

The chances of any new owners being unwilling to do that, knowing that they would have to is low and would be temporary as the club would be taken away from them. There are clearly people out there with the funds and willingness to buy Championship football clubs knowing that they are loss making. Why are you so skeptical that it would happen here?

The way the squad has been assembled and they are "trying" to further add to it is bizarre. There seems to be no thought in terms of creating a balanced squad for a favoured, consistent formation

26 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

I do agree with you.

I think the lack of unity is sad personally, that Maf person constantly on the wind up.

Rovers "fan" forum trying to wind people up and getting personal in there attacks when you post on there doesn't help either.

I'm starting to lose hope personally.

People on both sides trying to provoke arguments, take the moral high ground and increase their own social media profiles.

The sniping is becoming annoying on either side. And sadly I cant see it easing.

There are people who seem to be taking pleasure in the crowd not being very low. Some even defending the owners which is pretty sick inducing.

And there have been (mainly on social media) people purposely going out to provoke division on the other side, suggesting that attendees arent proper fans etc. These seem to be people that are more interesting in their own accounts being noticed, perhaps a bit of an ego thing. Often people who wouldnt have attended anyway.

The way the coalition communicated in a non aggressive, non provoactive way was refreshing. These are the aims, this is why we are doing what we are doing, no calling out those who wont boycott.

37 minutes ago, Torgeir said:

We obviously have a bit of money to spend. £1,5m plus add-ons is a good offer for a mid-table League One player. 
 

Bristol City need a replacement for Mehmeti so can see them in the chase as well, as has been reported. 

It isnt when the selling club wants £5m. Its an utterly pointless bid.

Ismael mentioned it too. With some injured players returning a new excuse was needed.

4 minutes ago, blue_and_white said:

Wages £25m, Operating costs £10m, Income £20m.

That's our average season, £15m per year for Venkys to make up. So who in their right minds would buy a business to lose a quarter of a BILLION every 20 years. Nobody. And I've heard fans say:
1. "New owners can grow the club to raise income" - No they can't. Blackburn will be the first majority-Muslim town, its one of the lowest wage areas in the country, its surrounded by a dozen other clubs and its got 3 super clubs nearby. It's practically the worst club in English football to grow.
2. "The owners can get us back in the PL" - There are 13 billionaire-owned clubs in the Championship, so why don't all the others suddenly spend £150m to do that? One FFP, two it's an insane gamble. If you don't go up, you're in Administration.

Fans don't like the idea of us going nowhere fast for the next decade, well its time to get real. Rovers 1990-2010 was not our natural position in the football pyramid, its not what we deserved, its what we were gifted. Fanbase entitlement whining about "hoofball" helped convince Venkys to sack Allardyce, which destroyed our PL status forever. And fan entitlement is at it again, trying to force out owners that have spent into the hundreds of millions by now because they don't, what, turn up to matches enough and wave their poms poms? In exchange for at best some chancer with 1% of Venkys wealth, who can't cover our massive annual losses, and downsizes us to League 1 for good.

Why do all the other Championship owners cover losses? Championship clubs spend more than they bring in, its just how it is.

Also, if you think that Venkys sacked Allardyce because of the fans then you are the one that needs to get real.

But yes, people are just annoyed that Venkys dont turn up "enough" (one way of putting it) waving pom poms.

Have some standards.

He may well be tired and over burdened but he was never anything more than bang average.

There was talk in the summer of him being rested and ready to score 15-20 goals which always seemed fanciful.

1 hour ago, Goozburger said:

This is quite hilarious.

I'm happy.

I want administration.

(Although sole credit to Rev for those silly interpretations).

As for evidence of who wants to buy us, why are you looking at other clubs? Where's the evidence of who wants to buy us and, more importantly, what would make them more suitable than the current bunch? I'm not being funny - seriously - I would love to know! But I have seen zero evidence to date, and the numbers seem self explanatory about that to me.

How can anyone possibly have evidence of people who want to buy us? The owners wont put us up for sale and even if they did, we wouldn't be privy to such details.

Why are you putting us down by suggesting that we couldnt find owners that at the very least would also pay the bills? 23 other Championship owners all pay the bills. Clubs at this level and below are bought. What makes us such an undesirable proposition and unique case? 

Paying the bills isnt this big plus you seem so keen to credit them for. Its the only way they would be able to keep the club. At every other club whose owners also cover the losses as its par for the course owning a Championship club. I bet you dont have fans crediting them for it in the absence of absolutely anything aside from that.

44 minutes ago, M_B said:

No,but a definite improvement. No need to point to the negative every time eh?

Still looked decidedly toothless with Ohashi needing a rest and the top scorer out, but who wouldn't miss their top scorer.

One the whole, thoroughly deserved a draw against a team in decent form,and a comeback draw at that. 

It was an improvement in that we didnt get comfortably brushed aside.

But it wasnt a good performance in general. It was drab. 

Doesnt buy him any time. Job is safe either way.

1 minute ago, Parsonblue said:

Thought it was a much improved performance today.  After conceding first, I wasn't sure how we would react, but we came back well to grab an equaliser.  After that it was a very even game with both sides having the chance to snatch a winner. 

Forshaw makes a difference in midfield and Baradji came on and looked the part and it was good to see Alebiosu back.  Once we get Gudjohnsen back, it will be interesting to see how he combines with Jorgensen. 

Indeed, once we get the injured players back it should make for an interesting end of the season.  It will be tight, but I think we have enough to stay up.  Certainly far more optimistic tonight than after the two away games last week.  

It was improved on the embarassing 2 losses but thats a low bar.

The standard of the performance today and the game as a whole was depressingly low.

Feel like the narrative post game is that we were much better today.

I thought we were crap again, so were they. The quality of the game in general was pretty embarassing at times. A group of sub par players looking particularly disjointed and again failing to win.

The change of formation doesnt make sense. Recruitment clearly wasnt designed for a back 3, but we have seemingly focused on getting in most likely 2 strikers, no wingers, only to revert back, especially when our good wing back is getting fit again. Just screams of making it up as they go along. 

Ohashi is not good enough, thats pretty simple. Jorgensen offered nothing and looks slow, and Miroshita is better central and looks rusty, had no impact. Cantwell was crap. O'Riordan doesnt look up to it and I was amazed to see he got man of the match.

Thought Cashin was much better which obviously the benchmark was low. But he was man of the match for me. Tronstad was also decent. Alebiosu had an impact when he came on.

Dike will be on standard Championship wages so it wont be him.

We have 2 left backs who clearly not play as wing backs. Ismael clearly doesnt want to use either there.

We also have an absolute waste of space who again Ismael clearly doesnt want to use and one that he has called out for being a liability.

We have spent weeks just sort of using 1, realising they arent capable of playing that position and then changing around.

And he seems happy to just leave it.

Thank god the rumour was false as that would have been yet another nail in the coffin.

It does feel like a case of self preservation rushing everyone back.

Ismael also mentioned "hopefully" having a striker by next week and a total of 8 bodies on top of what we had midweek.

Surely we arent thick enough to not bother with a left wing back.

It says a lot about how short the squad is and the shit that has gone on over 15 years. That a kid doing well for the under 18s not then instantly being chucked into the first team makes anyone suggest that it must be contractual. 

Any other club, no one asks that question. The next step would be to try and replicate in the under 21s regularly. 

We have signed a lot of crap from lesser leagues that you would think would be desperate to make a name for themselves.

Baradji falls into the same category. More ability than the others but no sign of desperation to give his all and really show what hes about.

Henriksson is right up there with the worst players that need to be binned.

No one is going to want to sign these players though.

1 hour ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Plenty deserve the siggy treatment that really shouldn’t be an issue

The issue will be we all know who shouldn’t make the cut but because Rudy and his team have signed them they won’t get cut as itl be a blow to their egos 

hedges should miss out 

along with any of tavaraes de neve henriksson and one of/maybe both Pickering/ribiero 

There is no reason for the Sigurdsson treatment. The club at least before these dickheads bought us wouldnt have conducted ourselves in such a way.

If we tell players that they likely wont be registered if they stay, and they choose to stay on their contracts as they are entitled to do. At least we have treated them properly.

We definitely havent missed out on 6 points. For a start we have already got a point in one of the rearranged games, having again led 1 nil at the time of the abandonment. 

2 hours ago, toogs said:

 

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   Look yourself if you are really that interested. 

What do you mean "look yourself?" Obviously I cannot see the rumour anywhere hence why I made the reasonable request to know where the rumour had been seen.

@RoversClitheroe please could you share from where you saw that Pickering could be going to Reading.

Can we have some actual substance please, where are these rumours from?

Link/screenshot?

He isnt in the team to scare the opposition. He was our best player for me last night which is not saying much. He is very good at what he does and its a very specialist role. Problem is, there is a mess around him. 

It is pretty embarassing that we signed a new centre back and after 1 game are not playing him, considering how poor yesterdays back 3 was individually. 

Centre back like other positions is an area where you could write down enough names to suggest we have more than enough bodies yet quality wise its impossible to put together a competent defence. Forgetting how good or otherwise Cashin is, his profile made no sense. Our centre backs are poor in the air, so we sign a really short centre back. We badly needed someone who is right footed and who can go in the middle, Cashin doesnt tick any of those boxes.

Atcheson clearly has talent but isnt ready to be playing at this level. O'Riordan looked out of his depth and when the pair are looking for a dominant partner, they get McLoughlin.

The squad we have is crap, so any manager would somewhat have their work cut out.

Towards the end, all of the last 3 managers made it clear that they werent getting what they wish in the transfer market. Players signed against their will, the players they wanted not being signed, an unwillingness to spend and an unwillingness to trade, whatever that is. However Ismael seems to regularly double down on his involvement in our shoddy recruitment, and actively seems to want these crap players.