22 minutes ago, Inferi said:

Rösler is a solid central defender at Allsvenskan level. Reads the game well and decent on the ball. Not sure if he is good enough to start games in the Championship.  Underperforming Malmö FF paid about 1 million euros for him a year ago. He is a regular starter for them and is likely out of our price range anyway. They are not known to sell players on the cheap.

How does he compare to our current centre backs?

6 minutes ago, Mercer said:

The timing suggests to me that he's not the 'hot property' he and his agent thought he might be.

Championship teams are at least 2 weeks into their pre season and you think Dolan would be a 'low hanging fruit' and easy to pick. 

They also would have to agree a compensation package with us ideally to avoid a tribunal.

But either way, all this stuff about his agent feeding him a fairytale at this stage is unfounded rubbish. 

Why have you got the impression that he and his agent see him as this hot property? 

2 hours ago, Mercer said:

Think Dolan needs to sack his agent as he seems to have been sold, and believed, a fairytale.

Huge dose of reality setting in for the lad. 

 

Because hes only in mid July not yet decided on his next move having rejected our no doubt pitiful offer? He must have been "sold a fairytale?"

I dont get why this narrative has grown legs like it has.

7 minutes ago, Rover84 said:

No concrete links but seen Pavle Vagic and Colin Rosler

Where did you see these?

Both right footed so dont fit the criteria we want.

37 minutes ago, callumrovers said:

No - business’s look for good investment opportunities - Rovers in its current state is not a good investment. 
 

there are a number of championship clubs who are better investments commercially.  You’re not getting a mutli million pound business to sponsor Rovers currently - not happening.

 

No football clubs are good investments. 

1 hour ago, harryhealless1928 said:

The only positive I can take is that you don`t want a scenario like at Man Ure where they have 5 players(Garnacho,Malacia,Rashford,Antony & Sancho)collecting  approx.£1 million a week in wages(according to the BBC) and the manager doesn`t want them. Don`t train with the first team squad. There are done for him. Also weakens the club`s bargaining position to sell at a high price.

 

So the low cost ,low wages ,young player model is dependant on very good scouting and a lot of luck to work!  Very high risk and interesting. It won`t look so good and interesting if we are bottom of the League.

The idea: don`t get promoted(way too much financial outlay will then be required) but don`t get relegated either(not enough revenue coming in ). 

Due acknowledgement to Tomphil2 that looks like the strategy(if you can call it that)!

I dont really get your comments financially.

Even if you spent a reasonable amount in the Prem but that season would still be far better financially than treading water in the Championship. 

In League 1, the wage bill would drop considerably and that is by far our biggest expense so that would outweigh the reduction in income. 

The Championship is possibly the worst league to be in financially.

47 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

The risk of "going for it" is that you might get promoted then instantly relegated and sacked I suppose.

Easier and a lot less hassle in the long run to plod on indefinitely in the lower reaches of the Championship with no pressure or expectations of success on you.

If you got promoted, your wage would automatically go up considerably, you would potentially be offered a bumper new contract. You would be expected to be relegated again but that promotion would also be great on your CV to get you future jobs. And worst case scenario, the club sacks you and you are left being paid out for the now increased contract that you have. 

It makes absolutely zero sense for any manager to not want and strive for promotion. They all do, some just dont have the competence.

We need to sign 2 centre backs. 1 isnt enough considering how much of a sick note Carter is added to Wharton being out for so long.

When will the minutes be out? 

Appreciate that people have busy lifes but some may lose some relevance if not out for a few weeks. 

Thats us ruled out.

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Maybe Ismael rated both players far more you do . I can't comment on Alebiosu quality but I think Montgomery is someone we need to develop but I think he would be better in box to box midfielder role with his ability to get up and down the pitch. Just for record and to be crystal clear Yes I would sign another right back with championship experience with similar attitudes to Brittain to play the role that Ismael wants from his right back role. Montgomery did very good provide that width and getting high up s quickly

are we really one down given that Eustace sent Lowe scouting the next opposition and wasn't actually coaching anyone. Maybe Ismael doesn't want 2 first team coaches but is happy with Whitehead as number 2 and Johnson as first team coach. 

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Didn't realise you were body language expert? the things you learn 

Has anyone said they are being unrealistically greedy? They are key players in this squad and they should be reward with contracts to reflect that. 

Why don't we wait until to see who sign as right winger

based on what? 

who says Gestede is picking random targets? why do we have have lead scouts like Piotr Sadowski and Michael Cairney doing what? are these not scouting and finding these players that fit how Ismael wants to play and the profile of player he wants? Also you don't factor in the role Adam Owen is playing in the recruitment of new signings and behind the scenes? 

You are being particularly pedantic at the moment.

What has how I rate both players got to do with anything? I had never heard of one until last week, I dont hold an opinion of him. We wanted a right back to cover Brittain coming into the summer, we got one, now Brittain is going. Naturally, you would think a new first choice right back would come in. You even agree with that.

If we dont directly replace Brittain, I will presume it is due to budgetary reasons. You don't possess the ability to adopt critical thinking. If we dont sign someone, you think its because thats what Ismael must have wanted. You cant fathom that he might not get everything he wants.

You have totally missed my point about Gestede and gone off down your usual rabbit hole of parroting lines about players fitting Ismael's style and naming various members of the recruitment team. These contract situations are of critical importance but Gestede has not treated them as such, he keeps kicking the can down the road. Now our whole window is still in limbo as we are nonethewiser about what is happening with 2 of the 3, and with Brittain we only know due to other team's interest. He seems solely focused on playing real life football manager trying to sign players from across Europe without seemingly enough awareness as to the importance to balance that off. If we end this window with no Dolan, Batth, Brittain and then potentially Tronstad and Travis, chuck in Weimann too, and just add too many random European players, I suspect there may be a lot of anxiety.

I think its come from a fake ITK account. Unless its also been reported by someone credible.

Elliott Jackson said that Ismael hinted that we would potentially go with Alebiosu and Montgomery at right back.

That would be ridiculous but it would be cheap and help them to hit the arbitary academy minutes target so wouldnt surprise anyone.

I suspect he very much is better than whatever we have offered him.

Feels like Gestede being a total novice is really shining through. Clearly has lots of ideas about random targets from here there and everywhere but these contract situations were always the elephant in the room and he seems happy to just push them to the back of the priority list. The likelihood of these situations overtaking this summer was always high and it was avoidable.

There shouldnt be uncertainty now, these players with a year to go should already know our highest offer and we could at least have some closure. That might be the case soon with Brittain but not in the way we would like.

Broughton certainly had his faults but he seemed to actually know in the main what he was doing to an extent. Gestede doesnt.

5 minutes ago, cesus said:

To be fair to Hedges I'd say there will be statistics that managers score him on and they will be going towards our goal rather than the opponents. He is the one protecting the full back in the air, he has the energy to stop 2 on 1's. 

I'm no Hedges super fan but I don't think any manager he has played for here is scoring him on goals and assists.

The main reason he has played so much has been our repeated inability to sign competent wide players.

2 minutes ago, Neal said:

I think Hedges at full back is a good option if he can stay fit. He's quick, and offers good protection defensively. Whilst offers little in final 3rd so, makes a lot of sense to me. 

It would be a huge risk to suddenly convert him and defending in front of someone is not the same as being a full back.

2 minutes ago, pick32 said:

Really I’d argue he is worse, since he beefed up lost a yard of pace and ability to turn a man quickly 

Why was he more productive last season than ever before?

Ok, so he actively didnt want to be successful.

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

Not really, some like Eustace and JDT want to do well and be successful in addition to just collecting their wage.

They all want to do well, that success will lead to bigger future pay cheques.

Just now, pick32 said:

Dolan hasn’t got any better since he was 17

Clearly not true.

31 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

He seems to be saying "I'd like them to stay but we're going to lose them because of the contract situation".

Shrug of the shoulders, "Nothing to do with me Guv, blame it on the previous administration."

I find him completely uninspiring myself. Only here to pick up his pay cheque. Not a scrap of ambition about him.

Every manager and player is here solely for the pay cheque to be fair.

11 minutes ago, ruggles1995 said:

We looked better under Eustace collectively because we were solid as a unit. He might of been better than the previous season, but id say its a bit far fetched to say he was brilliant. Hes not a massive loss imo. Its a fullback, most younger players can usually slip in pretty well at full back with a bit of experience around them. Look at owen beck, even montgomery looked 'ok' there, and even Duru away against burnley when we were down to 10 looked 'ok there', even costello did ok there at times. Its not the hardest position out the 11 to fill imo. Id say its one of the 'easier' positions to fill out of an 11. Im not underplaying his ability because hes leaving, its my honest opinion. Its good money for a fullback thats replaceable. Brittains an ok footballer, he wont define how our season will shape whether he stays or goes. Just my opinion. 

Montgomery started one game there. He got sent off.

Duru played one minute and injury time.

Just now, Emerald Isle Rover said:

I didn’t mention anything about 6k 

Sorry, wrong poster!

1 minute ago, ruggles1995 said:

I don't know about anyone else but I don't see losing Brittain as a big deal. Id say hes average at best. Apart from crossing a football hes not exactly been outstanding. Anything between 3-5 mill would be good business I think. Hes not blessed with pace and hes not exactly the best defender. I've watched many occasions him get his pants pulled down. Id love to see duru stay fit and get a go, loads of pace, and whenever he did play he did ok, I know it wasn't many mins for us but theres a player there. Id also say there are other positions that are worse to lose. 

He was brilliant last season. A huge outlet going forward and improved loads defensively. Lets not underplay his ability just because hes going.

Not to be replaced by a kid who has had injury problems and has barely played.

1 hour ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Seems very plausible to me 

Broughton who was clearly best ant contracts in his role couldn’t even get a response from Dolan in the summer of 23 

then he found a new agent believe it to be the same one as Diaz who has likely been filling his head about potentials offers etc

of all that’s messed up at our club this scenario we’re speaking about now I could easily see being the case and I put a lot of ot down to agent as opposed the player himself 

With 2 years left on his deal? Thats a long time to be on peanuts unless the deal he was offered was not much more.

Your figures are obviously totally hypothetical but do you think any other wide player in the division who plays every week is on £6k? I suspect very few if any.