Paul Mellelieu

11 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Flipping Heck Paul - are you infused with festive cheer?

All the best to you and everyone.

Ah, I meant the line-up was very sensible.  Don't agree with a word of your post.  

3 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Flipping Heck Paul - are you infused with festive cheer?

All the best to you and everyone.

Haha.  I am indeed RB.  Here's to three points and future disagreements in 2025. And all the best to the RB family.

Very sensible.

47 minutes ago, doctorryan said:

You're showing our age here Pauly.

Just good taste.

Ole, ole, ole!

If you have bugger all going forward, make sure your rear if neat, tidy and well-organised.

1 minute ago, jim mk2 said:

Waggott must be worried sick sitting in his multimillion pound home somewhere down south tonight. Eustace making Rovers into the a top-6 challenging outfit wasn't in the masterplan at all.

He thought he was getting a manager to keep our heads just above relegation trapdoor. He thought selling the free scoring Szmodics and signing 2 non--scoring forwards, one of whom is among the worst players to wear the famous blue and white halved shirt, would secure his vision

This wasn't how it was meant to be. At this rate Rovers could be in the playoffs, and then, horror of horrors, within a couple of games of the Premier League. How can he get his plan back on track? How can he scupper this feelgood factor among the fans? No doubt he'll be working feverishly over the weekend with another plan. Watch this space. 

Bonlea ticket prices.

I think the analysis here is spot on from Ian and others.  A great programme.  More like this please.

RIP.  

I'll never forget the long distance goal he scored against Brighton (I think).  Close my eyes and I can see it 50 years later.

3-0 loss.

8 hours ago, JHRover said:

In an administration scenario the club would still need to function. It would still need to 'maintain' Ewood Park and Brockhall, it would still have an academy, football team, club shop, matches to host and everything else.

When Derby, Portsmouth, Bolton, etc. etc. etc. went into admin they continued to play their matches, and presumably weren't run by volunteers during that time.

Liquidation is another matter entirely as the whole lot goes but given that fate hasn't yet fallen on any club comparable to Rovers I'd be reasonably confident that wouldn't happen here (unless something very dodgy goes on).

So I'm struggling to understand which people Venkys and Mr Cutback Waggott are currently employing at this scaled back, downgraded operation would suddenly be made redundant in the event of administration.

Is the suggestion that there are legions of non-essential staff currently on the payroll? If so I would ask why.

Or is the suggestion that administrators would get rid of essential staff? If so who and how would we continue to operate as a football club in those circumstances?

I think it is unlikely given Waggott and Venkys have orchestrated cutbacks, downgrading and downsizing at just about every opportunity they can find over the last 6-7 years at least. It seems logical that they are by and large only employing people now that they have to employ to ensure that the operation keeps on functioning.

Of course a change of ownership MIGHT see job losses. It also MIGHT see job growth. Nobody knows until it happens. 

Had Eustace not pulled a couple of surprise wins out the bag at the end of last season we'd be in League One now and I'm pretty sure with that there would have been quite a few job losses. 

That's the danger in being employed at a football club, especially one run by cowboys. Sooner or later there's a pretty good chance of relegation and financial difficulties and with that a risk of job losses. Not nice but nothing new in the world of football or indeed many other forms of entertainment.

It's a strange argument to say we've had cuts (which have been bad), but then be indifferent to the impact of admin, which could include closing or scaling back the academy, selling the training ground and so on.  My preference is for the owners to sell the club, not to go into administration.

8 hours ago, Upside Down said:

And you keep telling half truths as numerous people have pointed out numerous times that there have already been job losses and unpaid bills with the current ownership, yet you continue to ignore these stone cold facts.

As I said, it's like playing chess with a pigeon.

14 hours ago, tomphil said:

Iv'e tried to explain that several times over but he doesn't want to know it's easier to cry about doom that asses the situation using other examples.

The only one some want to ever flag up is Bury for some bizarre reason yet i'd say another decade of this and we are more likely to end up like them if this ownership continues and something finally gives.

The general idea amongst a lot of still attending fans seems to be 'ah well they keep chucking in 20 mill and paying the bills so one day we'll get lucky'.

Well those days are gone now so what next ?

 

It's difficult arguing with someone who is happy to tell half-truths.  I have given a number of examples where admin led to numerous job losses and unpaid bills.  Google will help you here.  No-one knows what will happen next, but I think grooing into admin is about as likely as the owners selling the club.

10 hours ago, Blue blood said:

Lol, quick! 

You're right though, it doesn't need you to be an economist it's plain common sense. 

Are you really suggesting that halving our supporter base is good for the long term viability for the club or the town businesses? Are you really saying an extra 12k match day supporters wouldn't benefit the town or club? 

You may say it's peanuts compared to who works for the club but what happens at the next round of downsizing or when we inevitably fall into league 1? What happens in 20 years time when we have a further reduced fanbase? Bar Wharton all the players sold to keep the lights on or get the goals to keep us up cost money - Armstrong, Sami, Brereton. What's going to happen now the production line is slowing? 

If you can't see the downward trend of the club and the impact that has on people and businesses I'm not going to convince you. But it seems pretty plain to see. 

If you think I think that, you haven't read my posts on this thread.

29 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

They could always sell to themselves.

They've already done that.

29 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

They could always sell to themselves.

They've already done that.

8 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Where have I shown indifference or asked for administration? I’m stating my opinion on what will be the eventuality.

So presumably then you think they will willingly sell or actually improve the club?

When will we see any inkling of that?

Apologies if I misunderstood your post, or conflated it with others.  I think admin is unlikely, sale is unlikely and we are in never-ending purgatory.  I have nothing to be positive about the leadership of the club, aside from JE's best efforts in dire circumstances.  

14 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

You downvoted my post, Paul which is odd, so what part of it was untrue?

’terrible for the staff involved… but as they won’t improve the club, won’t willingly sell, admin seems the only eventually’.

I don't think admin is the only eventuality, and we shouldn't be indifferent, never mind in favour of, a situation that could lead to the club's demise, cause significant to local suppliers and businesses, and leave many local people without jobs.  

On 17/11/2024 at 09:20, tomphil said:

We've been through all this ad nauseam and its been pointed out before as long as the club exists and is trading and playing football even if its in admin then the majority will remain employed.

Only in the event of a slash and burn policy would that change.

If the club tumbled down the leagues through lack of investment which is a real possibility then jobs will be lost anyway, even one relegation will see job loses.

So we are always in that ballpark anyway it's probably a question of when not if because of the financial trajectory we are on. A large bulk of those 200 plus on the payroll will be matchday staff like stewards etc.

Clubs are over stocked with kids standing around in orange tops with their hands in their pockets anyway but that is down to over zealous regulations.  Sorry i'm not crying into my pillow about a reduction in that lot most are young enough to find something else and not many will give a stuff about Rovers anyway.

It's just a once or twice a week couple of hours gig and the ONLY people to blame would be the ownership and operators of the club not fans wishing for radical change, a lot of whom put money INTO the club.

This is not true.  Many people would lose their jobs.  

On 16/11/2024 at 13:52, Blue blood said:

I'm no economist but I'm fairly sure that the loss of over 12k regular fans might have had an impact on local businesses and the like. I dare say Swag's cost cutting measures haven't helped us boost the local economy either. 

You're no economist.

8 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

We pay our bills on time (thanks to Raya, Wharton & Szmodics).

And I assume that V's would pick up the tab if we didn't have these player sales.

I think I've just had enough and stopped caring.

13 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

This animosity with Germany isn't two ways. Any German I've met genuinely isn't assed.

My experience is the they find it a bit sad.  They have the Dutch to hate....

As for Tuckel, great appointment, but a sign of failure of the FA's stewardship of the game.