5 minutes ago, goozburger said:

Since last night, it seems that the delay in the Wharton deal was an attempt by Rovers to get Wharton back on loan for the remainder of the season. Nothing wrong with trying that and, in fact, it probably what everyone at the club hoped for.

The other report is that McGuire was advised to not fly over due to the ongoing negotiation over the Wharton deal, but that he wanted to anyway. Worst thing for McGuire is he'd speak to one or two other Championship clubs and potentially get a deal, or just go back to Orlando. But it sounds like we were (and maybe still are) McGuire's first choice, hence why talks have resumed now that the Wharton deal is finalised.

Seems straightforward to me.

If we’d told him not to bother flying out we’ve given up any chance of him signing though. We couldn’t exactly ring him this afternoon and ask him just to nip across the Atlantic so sign his paperwork and do his medical.

McGuire deal apparently back on. There’ll be plenty of backtracking and even more criticism of anyone who dared question the commitment and competence of Venky’s or anyone employed by them.

Collapse all the deals please Gregg. I’d happily go with what we’ve got and keep Wharton.

I know, I know, he’s gone… but this is giving me a sliver of false hope that Adam is now staying. I know I’m setting myself up for a fall, but I can’t help it. I know it’s just our usual incompetence that causes nothing but misery deep down.

1 minute ago, pedrob2014 said:

Skysports reporting Luton interested in Dolan

Don’t worry, we won’t be selling Dolan. He’s out of contract soon enough so naturally any bids will be knocked back so he can leave on a free!

2 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

I don’t think it’s as cut and dry as you suggest.

The only ‘loss’ to the team there is Wharton. I’ll come back to him.

Travis hasn’t been playing regularly for a while and hadn’t figured at all really this season. Hill started well but tailed off and I’m confident that O’riordan and McFadzean can cover off any potential drop off from him. I’d go as far to say most fans would’ve gladly sent him back in favour of us signing O’riordan, a highly rated player on a permanent deal.

Chrisene and Ayari look like decent squad fillers and if we keep Gally then the signing of McGuire, on paper at least, strengthens us considerably!

So, back to Wharton. The truth is, he’s that good that selling him in any window would weaken us. The ACID test for this lot is that we MUST sign a CM this window, for cash. There’s zero excuse because they’re not ‘blocking’ anyone’s progress and they very obviously have cash. 2-3m on a good, young CM with some valuable experience, like Max Bird or Sibley, or the lad from Oxford that PNE fancy will keep most fans content come Friday morning.

To bumble past the window without getting a decent midfielder in is unthinkable. Imo.

I strongly disagree on Hill. I’m actually pretty happy with the O’Riordan signing, but Hill gave us versatility and was mature beyond his years. Big miss. Hopefully O’Riordan is ready to step up.

I’m not the world’s biggest Travis fan, but you know what you got with him. A good option to help see games out for sure. Another big ask for two youngsters to step in and do a job here and there, and Ayari seems more in the Buckley mould.

I think we will have to wait and see with McGuire. Tronstad took a while to settle and is considerably more experienced. Needs to hit the ground running really considering Telalovic looks miles off it and Ennis was clearly just a terrible fit for us from day one. Big, big expectations.

Agree on Wharton, and if anything I think you’ve understated his importance. If we continue to try and play out from the back as we have we will be watching a lot of football through our fingers. He’s irreplaceable, but we ought to be giving ourselves the best chance of doing so, and 36 hours doesn’t do that. Couldn’t agree more with your last paragraph… unfortunately I feel we’ll see the unthinkable.

3 minutes ago, Moptop1 said:

Maybe The Trust can ask the question at the next meeting, what direction do the owners plan to take with Rovers and  what are the commercial side of Rovers are doing to bring more money into the club.

I suspect it won’t be the real answer given. Just some bullshit. 

And some still expect a different answer and changes to happen. They won’t spend money, only the minimum amount on anything.

If you have a look at the Trust thread in here, there’s a post containing our latest newsletter. In there we highlight our planned discussion points for the MOU meeting coming up on 15th Feb. Finances are a big discussion point!

Minutes from the meeting will be documented to give clarity over the answers we get as well as our follow ups to them.

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

We've moved to a back 3 because we were getting monstered at set pieces. He simply wants another person that can win a header in the side - we don't really have enough players that can play WB to play the system. 

Yet still every time we face a corner our players look around at each other completely confused.

Broughton has been talking for a while about increasing the age profile of our squad. Some nerd with a spreadsheet has probably discovered that by selling Wharton and bringing in McFadzean we can take it from 22.8 to 26.3, ticking a box and making a profit! This astonishing piece of data usage will see him as head of recruitment one day.

27 minutes ago, rigger said:

Because the club need the money now. 

Not according to that statement they put out at the weekend.

16 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

When a player is on the “verge of joining” a club to me that is all but agreed. 
 

It’s either reporters telling lies or Orlando messing us about.

 

We must have been messed about at least 700 times in the last decade or so then.

4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Why are they messing about? They're entitled to reject any offer they're not happy with. 

If we really want him we should stop pissing about, offer what they want and get the deal done. If not look elsewhere and fast.

That’s not how transfers work in a lot of our fans heads. As soon as a club from a higher division/level comes in you are duty bound to arbitrarily find an example of a player of a similar profile that went for a similar amount and proclaim it a fair price. The selling team should in no way consider the impact of losing the player on the teams performance. The purpose of a football club is to develop and improve players for others these days, apparently.

2 minutes ago, sparky12 said:

Why am i seeing so many people on here act as if Adam has been a game changer for us this season? His ability to find a pass is frighting but almost an unneeded luxury for us at the moment, Christ he was even compared to Bale at Spurs earlier. I would have like to wait until the summer but realistically his value isn't jumping that much between now and the end of the season anyway and we are always one unfortunate tackle away from a another Dack situation.

Being the only player capable of playing the most essential role in the system the manager is hell bent on playing is pretty important, certainly not an “unneeded luxury”. Hopefully JRC can stay fit cos he’s our best chance of survival right now. Most of our  “game changers” do so in a negative way. The one regular positive “game changer” has just lost the best supply line he has. Or is this just another round of the “he’s shit anyway” that tends to happen whenever we lose a player nowadays?

Have you deluded yourself into believing we could’ve sold Dack and built a promotion winning squad with the proceeds? If so, why didn’t we do it with the proceeds from Armstrong?

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

The McGuire rain cloud will be Venky’s very own budget version of the Lewandowski ash cloud.

36 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Having been at the game I havent seen, were people annoyed having seen us go 1 down to a League 2 side on the back of 2 or 3 months of horrendous results and having seen our main asset dropped with an expectation that hes about to leave?

We’d also gone a really soft, sloppy and avoidable goal down after spurning some good initial chances, then dominating play up until the edge of their area before running out of ideas (with the most obvious solution to our lack of penetrative passes sat on the bench).

I was pretty pissed off in the ground at 1 down.

Another game where we completely outclassed lower league opposition. The gulf is immense. Still some really worrying signs and we’ll need to step up a good couple of gears on Saturday. If today is a glimpse of life without Wharton, we had better all brace ourselves for another trip to league one. Oh, and please play a normal formation on Saturday JDT.

That weirdo Moran fan has been keeping his head down the last couple of weeks… no surprise as his boy has been off the boil for months. Miles off the standard of most of our player and a light years behind Wharton. Moran and Sigurdsson both very poor again today.

Dolan and JRC were both really good today - we’ve missed them badly. As maligned as he often is, Gallagher is clearly our best forward, and I’m afraid Telalovic isn’t going to cut it despite his best efforts.

1 hour ago, yankfan said:

Admittedly the Huddersfield game was one of Gallys best of recent memory and yet he still was responsible for the goal conceded and didn’t score. He always puts in a shift but his record scoring which is what strikers are measured by is poor and Ive seen way too many instances of him not using his size speed or strength to do anything positive. Not to mention his unsmiling to control the ball 

1 hour ago, Torgeir said:

He lost the duel with Helik but it was a good header and a difficult player to mark. I just think his presence alone and the way he works the defenders is different to anyone else we have in the squad except maybe Dolan, funnily enough. 

 

I agree with everything you posted though, but at this current time I still think he offers our team a lot more than HL unfortunately.

That goal wasn’t Gallagher’s fault. He was zonal marking at the front post. Helik got clear of all our centre backs who didn’t track his run at all. We’d have had a lot better chance of defending the set piece properly if we employed basic marking rather than convoluted systems.

1 minute ago, bluebruce said:

50 million is? I think you're in for a rude awakening when we do sell him...

I’ve no doubt I’ll be incredibly pissed off when we do sell him. I certainly won’t be wanking myself into oblivion at the prospect of replacing him with a few loans and couple of half million punts from league one and Scandinavia like many seem to be.

12 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Reinvest half of the 25m into 6 players. Will. Never. Happen.

Also, half of 25 million is 12.5 million. That’s 2 million per player. If we pay them 10 grand a week for 3 years that’s 1.5 million each. Leaves an average of half a million in transfer fees. 

1 minute ago, islander200 said:

I don't want him sold this window ,but eventually (summer) the player will want to test himself in the premier league (surely has ambitions of playing for England).Talk of £50 million is pie in the sky stuff.

£25 mil -£30 mil is the absolute max a premier league club will pay for a player that doesn't play in the top division 

So while he is on a 4 year deal that he only signed a few weeks ago, he doesn’t go anywhere. Maybe there are conversations to be had and decisions to be made in the summer, but a move to Palace won’t do a lot for any England ambitions, and it wouldn’t guarantee Premier League status either.

There’s nothing to suggest Adam Wharton isn’t 100% happy at and committed to Rovers. People who are seemingly desperate to see him sold with vague hopes of money being “reinvested” seem to forget what the point of a football club is.