5 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

It appears as if everyone thinks Mowbray is coming back with zero budget. Is that what you've all heard? 

Mowbray has set the scene with his words in the LT - 'cleverer and cuter'.  My interpretation of that is he hasn't a pot to p1ss in.

If we got say £10million for Dack, which is very unlikely to me, then I'd be surprised if Mowbray would even get half of that to reinvest.  Lost count of the number of share issues our owners have made just to keep us afloat and I very much doubt it will continue.  Mowbray threw £10million+ at it last summer and I think the Brereton signing might prove to be the straw that's broke the camel's back.

My forecast on net player trading: at best, zero (a few small ins and outs), at worst, surplus of several £million with departing assets such as Lenihan and Dack.

4 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Keogh is a great Championship defender. 

A mistake waiting to happen in every match.

Cost Derby in play off final two or three seasons ago.

Seen him 'live' on numerous occasions.  To me, has a strange body language and I think he's a sandwich short of a picnic. 

24 minutes ago, philipl said:

Yes the frightening thing- the status quo without transfer "investment" lands us in FFP bother.

This is why Waggott is so focused on gate and commercial income.

In football terms, these are small numbers.

I struggle to see how Waggott has moved Rovers forward.

IMO, there have been too many expensive crass decisions which as CEO, he must have signed off on.

10 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Gallagher is bang average at best. Reed would be useful if Mowbray would actually play him in the middle rather than wasting his talents out wide but hypothetically sacrificing Dack to bring them in would be a seriously backwards move imo.

That said even if we signed no-one for the next season or two we'd probably fall foul of FFP purely on the basis of our operating losses so blowing £7m on BB and not playing him, handing out new contracts like sweeties to players who should have been discarded and talk of slow burns and long term plans seems all the more baffling and negligent.

and to think many on here espouse the virtues of Mowbray and Waggott.  I think dumb and dumber would be a more apt description.

2 hours ago, Neal said:

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/05/26/report-blackburn-plotting-5m-bid-for-southamptons-sam-gallagher/

 

Nixon linking us with Gallagher? 5 Mill seems a bit steep for someone who's hardly played or scored in the past 12 months. 

Agree.

Would be an uninspiring signing.

Brereton, Gallagher at a total of £12million+.

We need a manager who knows how to work the market.

20 hours ago, philipl said:

You have to remember:

1) Man U still labouring under Glazer ownership costing them gazillions

2) Man U have the highest wage bill and in a post-Champions League era need to get the wage bill down

3) Man U not confident of signing targets with OGS as Manager and no Champions League football to offer

I stressed Dack is on their radar, I didn't say expect an offer tomorrow.

In terms of quality of my source, the Man U one is much closer to the action than the Everton one.

Just read that United are now "very close" to signing Matthijs de Ligt and are also looking at Benfica's Felix who would also cost tens of £millions.

I think to link Dack with United is totally absurd and can only think that sadly you've listened too much to the likes of Kean, Coyle and Mowbray over the years!

7 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Talk about United and Everton is fantasy but 15 goals and 7 assists for a team who finished 15th suggests he is not overrated at all. 

 

IMO, a mentally and physically fit Dack is a very good Championship player.

Rhodes scored goals for fun at Rovers but, IMO, has failed miserably since leaving.  When we first signed Rhodes and he scored a few goals, some on here were lauding him as the new Shearer - it was nonsense.  I always thought his lack of pace, aggression and physicality  would prevent him from hacking it in the PL - in fact, I think he's now struggling at Championship level.

I see similar hype where Dack is concerned, however, IMO, his lack of pace and an indifferent attitude will prevent Dack from even getting to the PL never mind hacking it at that level.  When at Rovers, for most of the time, I thought Rhodes made the most of what he had in his locker - sadly, I don't think that could be said about Dack. 

2 hours ago, philipl said:

I was a little obtuse before but from a contact at Man U, Dack is on their radar and I hear Everton (who are at risk of losing Richarlison to Atletico Madrid, Digne and Gomes to Spurs and Zouma going back to Chelsea) are seriously looking at Dack. 

Think someone is winding you up!

I will be very surprised if ANY PL club takes a chance on Dack.

IMO, overpriced, overweight and overrated.

Raya would have to go for me.

When I first saw him 3 or 4 seasons ago, I thought we had a real prospect on our hands.  However, two full seasons as our number one and in my mind he's not developing / improving as he should and as good young goalies do.  If anything, I think he's going backwards.

IMO, we also need an experienced goalie coach who's done it and got the tee shirt.  IMO, the community trust, where I think Benson started at Carlisle, is Benson's level.  Pay peanuts and you get monkeys.  IF we sign Joe Hart, can anyone really imagine Benson coaching him!

1 hour ago, S8 & Blue said:

You’re talking about arguably the best RB in the world right now.

Does everything have to be a Mowbray dig? Tedious.

Do you have to defend Mowbray all the time like he's Pep?  Tedious.

You miss the point.  Yes the lad is outstanding and has developed because he was given the chance by Klopp as an 18 year old and played in the Champions League Final as a 19 year old.

In my opinion, Mowbray sucks the oxygen out of our young player development.  He talks about Reed as a 'kid' at 23/24 with things to learn and in the main played him out of position when he wasn't on the bench.  He describes the 19 year old Brereton as an 'amazing' talent who he's paid £7million+ for but wont feckin play him.  He's had countless opportunities to 'blood' other 'youngsters' like Buckley and Butterworth (19 years old) but they've been lucky to even smell the bench.  Travis is 21 and only just been given his chance but under forced circumstances.  Nyambe is 21 and, IMV, the best right back at the club by a country mile but Mowbray has persisted with Bennett who's been roasted so many times this season.  You can go on and on.

If I was representing any young talent, I'd advise them to give Rovers and Mowbray a very wide berth.

13 hours ago, Tom said:

That fourth was stunning from Alexander Arnold 

Doubt the lad wouldn't have got a look in with Mowbray as his manager - far too young and inexperienced at 20 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's simple - if you are good enough you are old enough.

The way Mowbray holds back our young talent is, IMO, absurd.  Brererton with his 'amazing talent'.  Reed is better away from our club - rarely played in his best position.  Rothwell given his chance 6 months too late and only in forced circumstances.  Bennett over Nyambe!  Travis on verge of going out on loan until Mowbray forced to play him.  You could go on and on and on.

Anyhow great stuff Liverpool.  They play exciting football and Klopp deserves a trophy for his refreshing approach.  Will be no surprise if City slip at Brighton and let Liverpool in for the PL.

Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

That last sentence is absolutely comical 

#bringbackthelaughteremoji

Really?

Don't think any recent scouting reports will read well.

You only need to read the comments on hereabouts Dack following the Norwich match.

You can have all the ability in the world butility if a player'so attitude isn't right!?!?

Can't see too many, if any, managers rushing to see their CEO this morning asking to sanction an outlay of £15m+ on Dack over 4 years (fee, wages & NI).

22 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

5m for an attacking midfielder with 14 goals and 7 assists? Behave.

Behave?

I see a player who, IMO, has suffered a chronic loss of form and is physically and mentally unfit.

As with Jordan Rhodes, I think a lack of pace will prevent Dack progressing much further 

At this point in time, I would bite off any hand offering £5m.

I think we need a minimum of six new players.  Six additions who can go straight in and make an impact.

A goalkeeper, centre back, left back, winger with real pace, central midfielder and a striker.

I don't think Mowbray can pull that off.  His player trading suggests to me he neither has an eye for a player nor the contacts.

Huge question mark over Dack.  Does he really want to be here?  Other than the Derby game, IMO, his performances in recent times suggest he doesn't.  The problem is his value will have collapsed like a pack of cards.  Can't see any club coughing up much more than £5m.  Venky's and Mowbray might want £15million to £20million but that boat sailed a long time ago.  Good clubs and operators know when to sell - Bob Lord at Burnley was a master at it.

4 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

If we could trust the idiots to appoint a sensible replacement I'd be right there with you on this. Trouble is we can't. We got shown up last night by a team playing 2019 style football. We're still playing last century football.

I think we need to roll the dice.  Changing a manager is a risk for any club, even Manchester United as they've found to their cost.

I will not buy any season tickets for the family whilst this, IMO, dinosaur of a manager remains at our club.

In the main, I think our football is dreadful and I am sick and tired of what I think is b 0 l l0cks and bullsh1t from Mowbray.  I think his comments and excuses are now right up there with what we used to hear from Kean and C o y l e.

32 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/17602741.mowbray-frustrated-and-disappointed-by-rovers-first-half/

Travis and Jack Rodwell struggled to get to grips with the Norwich midfield in the first half, and Mowbray added:“Defenders have to defend, I don’t know why the midfielders’ were trying to do the defenders’ jobs"

Because you play 2 DM's you clown and they sit in front of the back 4 on your instruction. 

“I think we are frustrated and disappointed with most of the first half. We didn’t play on the front foot enough,” Mowbray said.

It's like a parallel universe. We rarely play on the 'front foot'. It's just BS. 

Think Mowbray is clearly deluded and his bullsh1t is an affront to the supporters.

IMO, an old school manager who even at his best was no better than average.  Think we rescued him from the scrapheap.  He's been well rewarded  but is now in decline and it's time to say bye bye.

I think we are miles away from being an organised, effective and cohesive team with a clear identity and footballing philosophy.

A developing team does not take the number of  hammerings, or horror shows, we've had this season.  At times, scorelines have flattered us, as yesterday when we could have lost by at least three more goals without complaint.

IMO, would be a huge mistake to give Mowbray another transfer window and season.

What a world of difference a half decent manager makes.

We've seen the contrast over the season with both Farke and Mowbray with very different progressions.

IMO, we need to change our manager to make REAL progress.  Full stop.

Let's hope we are the cockatiels who ruffle the canaries' feathers.

Nothing to fear.  Think Norwich have rode their luck a bit but full marks to them and Farke who have shown what can be achieved with decent organisation, tactics and team spirit.  Interesting how many late goals they've scored in stark comparison to how many late goals we've conceded.

Players who readily come to mind who'very played for both sides including the good, the bad and the ugly!

Chris Sutton, Tim Sherwood, Malcolm Darling, Bryan Conlon,  Martin Olson, Craig Bellamy, Ashley Ward, Elliott Ward / Bennett, Simon Jackson, Jordan Rhodes, Grant Hanley nd Chris Brown!

I'm going for five on the bounce with a 3-1 Rovers' win.  New contract for Mr Lemon Drizzle Cake please!  Yep, hit the red wine early today!

Lots of memories of Bolton games.

The March evening match in the early 1970's at Burnden Park when Faz nicked it for us at the Lever End in front of nearly 30,000.  Made a mistake of going into the Lever End once - there were some big, hard and nasty lads in there. 

Also remember a Saturday Ewood match, again in the early 1970's, when hundreds of the Bolton lot arrived very early doors in Blackburn town centre and absolutely ran amok.

Had the misfortune of seeing Ian Greaves' Bolton clinch promotion back to the First Division (now PL) at Ewood (late 1970's).  There must have been 25,000 on Ewood from Bolton that night.  In fairness, it was a bloody good Bolton side (Big Sam, Frank Worthington, Willie Morgan, Roy Greaves, Tony Dunne etc) and although only 1-0 it really was men against boys even though we had some decent lads ourselves (Waggy, John Bailey, Graham Hawkins, Keeley, Tony Parkes, a fading John Radford).  I remember when the teams came out, Bolton had Frankie boy up top whilst we had Jack Lewis a £10,000 signing from Grimsby partnering Raddy - just didn't fancy us!

Anyhow, on to Monday.  We will batter them.  Only question is by how many.  I'm going for Rovers 4-1.  Hope at least two of Brereton, Buckley and Butterworth get a start.

Always nice to win but think today was a wasted opportunity for Mowbray.

What can he have learnt.

Many know we need a new goalie, many know Smallwood is pants, many know we defend better without Charlie, many know Rothwell and Travis are 'must starts'.  Perhaps Mowbray isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer and it takes time to sink in.

The management of Brereton is, IMO, a feckin disgrace.  How is Mowbray developing the lad?  Five minutes here, five minutes there is, IMO, utter shite.  I think Mowbray wont play him because he's afraid a run of games might just show he's dropped a real b 0 l l 0 c k in signing him and he's delaying the bad news for the Venky's for as long as he can.

I think the fact that at least one of Chapman, Nyambe, Magloire, Buckley or Butterworth didn't start the match, and Brereton only got 5 minutes, tells you that Mowbray is not one to develop young talent.  

I do not think Mowbray's selections augur well for the summer and next season.  To me, he's just deluding himself.

1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Doubtful with the under 23s playing Monday, but who knows

It all comes back to, who will Tony drop from this 18 to bring the youngsters in? 

We are a very, very average Championship team.  You make it sound we are like Barca, Real, City etc who are exploding with quality in depth.

Boring and predictable selection.

If I was a youngster at Ewood I would despair.

I think Reed will be glad to be out of it, Brereton must be wondering how permanently sitting on the bench is helping his development and Chapman will be thinking wtf.  As for the likes of Nyambe, Magloire, Butterworth and Buckley, what is the point?

Do us all a favour Mowbray and just clear off - go and enjoy copious quantities of your wife's lemon drizzle cake.  I think you are killing our club - it's stagnation at best.

Mowbray's LT article on Reed just demonstrates, IMO, why he should no longer be our manager.  I think it's just b 0 l l 0 c k s  and bullsh1t.

If Mowbray had managed England, there's no way the 'young' Bobby Moore would have been lifting the World Cup in 1966 having just turned 25 (only about 7 months older than Reed is now)!!!

We should be on a roll.  Fully expect two comfortable wins against QPR and Bolton.  Hope Mowbray now realises we are much better on the front foot and it's best to let the opposition worry about us instead of dressing them up as Barca or Real.

Mowbray needs to give the young players their head.  Play them and tell them to go out enjoy and show the footballing world what they can do,  Time to give the likes of Nyambe, Magloire, Davenport, Chapman, Buckley, Butterworth and Brereton some serious game time.

Forest tomorrow will be far tougher than Derby.  They will be far more physical and aggressive.  I very much doubt we will be able to handle them.

I would go with the same team other than Nyambe for Bennett.

Think we will be well beaten tomorrow by at least two goals - it could get embarrassing.