Sad sad news

Condolences to his family and friends and all that knew him

One of those you saw at games and knew without actually knowing him on a personal basis

RIP Warren

Sad, sad news , rest in piece fellow blue an white.

Condolences to his family and friends

Part of my early years of following Rovers, a true wearer of the shirt imo probably should have scored more than he did but certainly partnered well with Garner.

probably reason he didn't get the admiration his workrate and gameplay should have done

RIP Chris will be remembered fondly and our thoughts go out to your family.

Tris, on 05 May 2010 - 23:39 PM, said:

Darwen has a new restaurant called La Salsa, on Railway Road just behind the market.

Anbody been here lately can give an uptodate report - heading down here Monday night all being well

Just got around to updating on this - despite the initial problem of being overbooked/too many off the street- once we had got sorted (party of x17) - service and food where excellent and would definitely recommend.

Darwen has a new restaurant called La Salsa, on Railway Road just behind the market.

Anbody been here lately can give an uptodate report - heading down here Monday night all being well

Very worrying that the police intelligence were videoing poeple entering the Aqueduct pub on Sunday.

Worrying?

Not the first time they have done this - used to do it regular before - also at the Moorings.

Me too.......... until the alarm clock goes off.

Would that be the alarm to advise you of your game of golf Theno?

This post is beyond belief. This season there had only been two games where we have not got the result we would probably have expected before the game;

I expect us to beat anybody at home

Can you not find some column space to publish some of the most ludicrous comments for the nation? It'd be a laff if nowt else.

..... it might be just me Theno but I feel some people on here may see some irony in this comment

The kid is an asset for Rovers right now, but really would not make an impact at Chelsea this season.

beg to differ on that Nicko .. he has got the bite of experience and staring position in the Premier now and has not looked out of place with our bunch of misfits.

Given the support he would get from the talent at Chelski never mind just the midlfield - given a starting berth a suspect we would see an even better player.

May not make the impact of Drogba but would certainly receive acclaim imo.

but all three makes you wonder what the stewards etc were doing. The same principle goes for the three pitch invasions. One's unfortunate, two's very careless, three...

See my earlier post BB - according to Hammers fans - the Stewards where apparently helping people onto the field - whether this was for safety reasons or not is anybody's guess at the moment -also after the first goal the less than preventative nature of the stewards from letting people get on to the pitch seemed to be picked up upon by the fans which is probably why there were the x3 pitch invasions.

Yet again though - from the Stewards account on the radio - there were not enough for the game ( like the police) and some didn't even want to be on duty for this game anyway.

Strange reading the articles now but its saying there where 500 police on duty with riot police and horses as back up - I'm sure there were more than this for our previous exploits against our friends down the road on both occasions.

I don't know. I remember a lot of people trying to play down the Rangers fans unrest in Manchester until the CCTV footage was released by the police. Some of the reports play it down but other don't sound good at all. I suspect that footage may eventually circulate showing it as being very bad by modern day standards.

I have no doubt on this also Hasta but the way the media portray it its as if it was going off all over the place.

There will have been old scores trying to be settled no doubt last night ( and appearances by 'old faces') and even in the interviews I have heard and reports there where incidents of a violence - but the World War scenario being banded about makes it seem nobdy has ever been or seen 'violence' at a game before. If it was violent as being made out - I would have expected to have heard more incidents throughout London rather than outside and inside the ground.

As mentioned by fans and Stewards there where not enough Police, but from all accounts the Police did a good job , however from Hammers fans accounts the Stewards where helping some onto the field - now whether that was for safety reasons I have no idea but there appears to have been alot of incidents snowballed into 'violent' hysteria.

not sure about anybody else (and will probably get slated here for it) , but there still seems to be alot of reporting hysteria flying about again re the game last night and the usual knee jerk rather than what actually happened.

Now I am not vindicating what happened, nor naive in thinking that there where not people who where intent on causing trouble - but it seems there was more disorder rather than violence that happened

There is a history between the two teams that goes back along while - playing in different divisions and not being a regular doesn't help either - so there was always going to be a tense atmosphere in and outside the ground and exacerbated by the way the game actually pannedd out (Millwall (underdogs) away from home take the lead) goading then a late equaliser from the Hammers - emotions run high in Derby games - pitch invasions are not unknown and I know it still doesn't make it right but they do happen and especially in highly charged games.

I'm only going off what I have heard and read ( both sets of fans and stewards), and even on the BBC wedsite to quote Malcolm Clarke Chairman of the FSF says "It's important to get to the bottom of it but too many hysterical over-reactions don't help"

By all accounts it was a Millwall fan that was stabbed and listening on the radio from fans and in statements is not as bad as being made out and was a series of events that just escalated.

An investigation may prove otherwise but there has been mention of overcrowding at the Tube station with no trains being stopped/ held back- for anybody who has been on the train/tube to West Ham will understand this which led to the initial disturbance with the police outside the ground, there where not enough Police or Stewards , the initial 'disturbance was just the usual stand off and goading with a police line and items (paper cups , coins being thrown) until the police broke the line trying to clear up and seal off streets which is apparently when Millwall fans managed to get through the police and sporadic fighting did take place.

Disturbing and frightening for the majority who went no doubt (1 person getting stabbed is one too many), and also for the residents in the area and although it shouldn't happen there appears to be a lot of condemnation without back up or understanding of what really went on.

I have the ticket - still complete!!

Not sure why I ended up not going - it was my 18th Birthday - think it had something with people chickening out and was left going on my own.

Always enjoyed trips to the Den for the run the gauntlet except for a game with an unknown Mr Sheringham at the time.

I have the ticket - still complete!!

Whilst I don't wish ill health on anybody, I'm delighted that Bill Toland is retiring from drumming.

I remember a couple of years ago at an away game I tried to engage Mr Toland in a polite conversation to let him know that many supporters found his drumming quite infuriating, but he just gave me a blank stare.

John Williams and Tom Finn seem to be living in cloud cuckoo land if they think that the constant thudding of drums is hugely popular with supporters. On the contrary, many fans found the drumming completely vexatious.

Although I am not doubting it , I find the bit about the blank stare a bit strange AESF as Billy is certainly a very chatty person - and welcomed comments but not in an impolite manner (whether he took them on board only he can say). As I have posted previously, I have been out of my way to have a chat with Billy previously on a few occasions as I didn't like the aspect of the drum full stop nevermind the incoherent tunes, would be interesting to know if anybody else did in an amicable way.

With regard to JW & TF I tend to agree but it would appear they can only go on what they probably hear from certain sections of the fans with that certain section probably being the ones that don't complain if you get my meaning. Adding to that how many have actually expressed their dislike to the club?

What we should not forget is that Billy has followed the club for many a year even before the drum and at the end of the day is a True Blue.

I agree I hope nobody else takes up the mantle of another drum but at the end of the day he was only doing something that he thought contributed to the atmosphere - if those that didn't agree showed as much effort towards generating one then there would be no need for anybody to even think about a drum again.

Excellent BB I think there is journey in this as a good and catchy modern tune

My contribution

''HEAR THE EWOOD BELLS START A RINGING

ROVERS CAVALRY CHOIR IS SINGING

ARTE ET LABORE OUR WORD AND SHIELD

AS THE BLUE N WHITE ARMY TAKES TO THE FIELD

VILLANUEVA IS OUT TO SLAIN

YOU KNOW HE’S GONNA SCORE EVERY GAME

HE’S GONNA RULE EWOOD

(THEN) KING CARLOS WILL RULE THE WORLD

OHOH… OH..OH…OH''

Was in the Everton End directly opposite the Rovers Fans as where many other Rovers Fans - never seen so many Rovers in the 'home end'.

Everton fan (brick ..... house) directly in front of me went mental when we scored and many in the stand jumped and cheered - and so early on as well.

Very enjoyable and tense - after that first 10-15 mins Rovers where awful and virtually none existent in their gameplay - the nerves where beginning to show.

'Up above the streets and houses

Incey's climbing high

Everyone can see him smiling ... blue and white

Paint the whole world with an Incey!!!'

The reasoning for my thinking is just a play on factor of colour being a major thing to throw back at the media - its irrelevant and shouldn't be picked out ie first black british manager

'Up above the streets and houses

Incey's climbing high

Everyone can see him smiling ... blue and white

Paint the whole world with an Incey!!!'

Judge, tricky little player that he is, is not going to get selected ahead of Roque, Jason, Benni or Matt at the moment.

Unlikely Parson, I thought he was a midfielder.

Also travelled with the first team to the Portsmouth game by all accounts

R6 - think you need to channel you argument to why we are not producing anybody of real talent.

Hannah the blame for the appallling development of kids nowadays lies squarely at the door of the law makers who do not allow the members of your profession the proper tools and support necessary to discipline the young nor do they punish irresponsible parenting hard enough.

The welfare system is in short paying the social underclasses to breed at the expense of the more valuable members of society. Even if everything was changed tomorrow we will unfortunately continue to reap the rewards of our folly for very many years.

Something I totally agree with you on here Theno , and have been saying the same for a while.

because they know that 9 times out of 10 the ref wont give it.

That quote was referring to fouls in the box, he never gets them and defenders know this.

Fair do's licker as you see alot more of him than what we do, but I think we all know that its the same for alot of players (and teams), including your very own Lescott .

However, and this is nothing to do with media /tv reputation reporting but what I have seen myself and I'll admit I ain't no Johnson fan, but I didn't see anything different with him on Saturday to his palace (hate them) days, and he still goes to ground far too easily (you certainly don't see the likes of Owen etc doing the same). How he is anywhere near the England set up is beyond me - but that is just my opinion.

As for Wiley, as some have already posted, there where a fair few Rovers fans cringing when his name was announced as the ref as he does seem to find cards easy to wave at Rovers players however he was bad for both teams and moreso you Toffee men, and dare I say it Johnson in particular.

I don't know what its like for you guys at Goodison, but trying not to look through blinkers we feel justified to say we get a raw deal more than alot of clubs from the officials - including some very very very blatant decisions going against us.

i am starting to worry he'll never really be good enough for the top level. he's quick and instinctive but just isnt capable of putting fear into opposing defenders like top strikers can. maybe if he bulks up more and adds some strength to his game he could be effective but right now he just doesnt offer enough.

Why - he's not been given a steady run of games playing up front to be able to prove himself.

Once Hughes stops playing him out on the right and gives him his chance up front then give him judgement.

Personally I think we have a gem , and given the chance will prove it.

Lack of atmosphere seems to be a problem throughout the Premier league

Not just the Premier League - but at most games nowadays it will be the away Fans making the most noise.

The reason that people think there is atmosphere at the bigger grounds tends to be because of that particular reason - that there are more fans there- but if you go as an away fan you tend to find the only noise they make is when they score a goal.

The only ones - from experience which tend to be half decent are West Ham/Spurs and Portsmouth.

Each club has its own problems and can be equally as good or as bad as each other - Rovers are no different.

Nope i wont drum its an embarrasment......

cmon you old blackburn enders lets put our thoughts down as to what we would of done in the old days with the drum and drummer

Agree Abbey

And in answer .... exactly what used to happen with the teddy bears (and scarves sometimes)