What a ######.

Anybody else think that maybe Neill's decision to join West Ham might have had something to do with fear of being beaten stupid?

Possible. I seem to remember Souness leaving Neill out of the return fixture at Anfield that season, this may have had something to do with it.

Sounds like a right mickey mouse league Ricky. Also sounds like you lot are in the wrong division. Winning by miles (I assume) each week is hardly an enjoyable situation imo.

Doesn't sound like he's enjoying it to me.

That was quite astonishing. Who the hell told him to do that?!

It's a reference to Everton and the Tesco links to their ground move.

NROB SAW OMA RETAL SKEEW EERHT !HGUAL A ROF !RAEB YLZZIRG A OT NI TOG ECNO DAD SOMA

!NAMOW TAHT HTIW SNOITALER LAUXES EVAH TON DID OMA

Eh Flinty you illiterate genius, try this chant...

!!!! PAOS SIH DEPPORD SOMA

It's Latin son, a bit like 'Arte Eh Labour.'

!!!!!!YTNILF UOY ESIMODOS LLIW OMA

Thats amazing.

!!!!!!REHTOM RUOY DEXES OMA

Ah yes, Fowler. And Friedel.

Still wondering where, besides Nicko, the idea we are signing Andrews is coming from. His club has said he is staying, we have said we aren't buying him.

Remind me who's managing Panathinaikos now?

Heck, supposedly, according to Nicko and others, it was a done deal and we were going to slip the announcement out there. Awfully long time to wait when he should be training with us for the start of the season.

I do not understand this thinking.

For every Henk Ten Cate, there's a Rigters, Santa Cruz, Robinson, Villaneuva, Simpson and probably countless others than I can't be bothered going back to trace.

It amazes me how people will disregard the track record Nicko has for consistently and correctly telling us things before anyone else whenever that thing is something we don't want to hear.

There's no guarantee we'll sign Andrews, all that is being said is that we still really want him. The way Ince is messing other midfielders about, it's not hard to believe.

No Man United songs thanks

On youtube he's unbelievable

I liked the "It's just like watching youtube" someone mentioned.

Oasis - Champagne Supernova

Ahhh. Thats actually quite good! The basis for all good football songs should be the players name sounding like the name of the song.

Good spot.

Whats the tune of 3?

I like number 2, you'll probably get in trouble for number 1 (this is a family site you know ).

Like the idea Hughesy - it would be good if for once we could have a Song thread that stayed on the main messageboard that actually garnered a bit of interest. I remember around this time last year some people talked about getting together and making a concerted effort to improve the atmosphere.

Now is the perfect time. Hope it works.

Didnt Duff apparentley say that when he first went to Chelsea?, Am sure i've heard it before.

He did, in a letter than looked like it had been scrawled with his foot.

This thread is appallingly named btw, saw it this morning and thought we'd signed him. Surely it'd be ok to start a new Duff thread?

Jason/Jim,

Either of you got anything new to report on this? Was enjoying following the progress back when this one was live...

Alan,

Out of interest, apologies if it's been said - did Joe Garner leave Carlisle in the end? If so, did we get a slice of the fee?

To be fair to Tris I doubt he's changed his opinion.....

Thanks for the advice Theno, however I think Dunn already has a thread, so if people would like to discuss the merits of his low centre of gravity then they can do so on there. Not on a thread about Duff.

Who on the last few seasons' showings offers no more than MGP does at the moment

I think MGP already has a thread, so if people would like to discuss his current poor form then they can do so on there. Not on a thread about Duff.

I wouldn't be so quick to write him off, I am not sure why so many people are. Players often have huge downturns in their career to again at least partially rescale the heights - Santa Cruz would be a fine example, as would Frank Lampard or Teddy Sheringham. Sure Duff's game is more about pace, but that's not everything.

As I have said before the only way we can get our hands on top class players is if 1) no one knows about them or 2) They are percieved to be "past it".

So Duff warrents a look, even if it is only to ultimately discard the option. It comes down to whether Sparky and the team think they can rehabilitate him.

If we went around saying we would take nobody who was in bad form or had injury problems in the past we would have very few options in the transfer market and be missing quite a few of our best players right now.

Our future as a successful club depends on nurturing a reputation of getting "past it" international performers back to their best.

I totally agree with you Joey - I'm very surprised at some of the comments. Duffer is Championship standard? I find that incredibly hard to believe. He's had a lot of injuries, but we know he's got talent.

We have to trade in the circles that you mention above - I would be very disappointed if we didn't entertain the idea of signing Duff.

Hey don't get me wrong - nothing wrong with being ABU, but it doesnt lend itself to creating credible sources does it?

I've got no doubt what you say is true, just don't think you express it as well as you could. Maybe that's a by product of preferring numbers to words

As the build-up to the Champions League final begins with Ronaldo giving an ambiguous interview, I couldn't help but reflect how grateful the rest of football should be to the Glazers.

The combined cost to Man U of the Glazer intervention is already going north of £250m

- interest charges of over £200m in the three years' published accounts to date

- transaction costs (the cost of buying Man U) by the Glazers of £42m (admitted publicly)

- defence costs by the plc (the costs to Man U of trying not to be bought by the Glazers) of £25m

Set against that, the total additional revenue to Man U because of the Glazers is certainly much less than £100m

- the amount the AIG sponsorship exceeds the next highest sponsor bidding price (that is assuming the Glazers made that happen)

- the rest is made up of ripping off the Manc fans in higher seat prices, MUTV fees and merchandising costs.

There are two realities:

1) Apart from ripping off the Manc fans, the Glazers had no magic marketing formula and shown no innovative skills whatsoever in extending the reach of the Manc empire that the plc was not already involved in (even the extension of OT to 76,000 was already in build) whilst other stadium expansion plans have been shelved indefinitely.

2) The world has been spared from the RFW running round with an extra £200m in his pocket which would undoutedly have funded the most formidable football squad ever assembled.

For that the rest of football has every reason to be truly thankful that the Glazers have crippled the Mancs. And in true cash terms, MUFC has to spin off another £billion+ in interest and repayments before its balance sheet is restored to the strength it had as a plc.

Just an observation Philip, but I find it very difficult to take your posts in this thread seriously, as your writing style gives the impression that you are biased against United, and looking to represent as bleak a picture as you possibly can. I do not know enough about it to know whether or not what you say is accurate - and I have no other reason to doubt it - but the way you make your points screams of 'ABU', and undermines the 'facts' that you mention.

I've tried to find it on rightmove - could it possibly be this one?

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/viewdetails-195...=1&tr_t=buy

There are some trophies in a cabinet in there.

Don't think thats it - it mentions that it was bought 6 years ago, a previous link posted said that Sparky had lived in his house for 15 years.

Little cartel? Established board members? What are you talking about? Gordy had a pop at you (most of us have experienced that) and you've had verbal diaorrhoea ever since.

My post a few entries up wasn't aimed at you specifically, yet you're the only one that felt the need to "defend yourself". There I go, summing it all up again