Old, infirm, or just plain old shite?

Then come and join Tony Mowbray's Human Values XI. 

3 hours ago, Exiled in Toronto said:

He’s explained it at least five times that I’ve read or listened to: contracts will be honoured, ergo no-one on a contract will be forced out. There never was going to be a mass clear-out.

You've misunderstood him 5 times. Mowbray can't force anyone out who's on contract, it isn't his choice to make. What he's actually said is contracted players may leave once he's explained they aren't part of his plans. 

Just now, S8 & Blue said:

So if he’s here for 10 years and plays an 18 year old.

He “inherited” that 8 year old? No credit?

They weren’t in the first team

He didn't buy them. Its a discussion on Mowbray's record in the transfer market. 

When we next see Gladwin missing an open goal from 3 yards I think we would all do well to stop calling him a useless **** and instead consider Tony's 'human values'. 

TBF Rodwell is versatile. He's shite in every position. 

1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Wow. Some reactions to that news. 

Lads, go out and enjoy the sunshine 

Next season is about who we sign. 

Lad, if we keep re-signing shite we won't be able to sign anyone good. 

8 hours ago, S8 & Blue said:

Raya and Travis never played so you can’t really say he “inherited” them.

Also I thought keeping hold of Mulgrew, Lenihan and Graham in the window after relegation was a massive success.

Important to remember we had a good squad for League One, and made good signings for a League One club.

If they were already here he didn't buy them, he inherited them. 

6 hours ago, Madon said:

Club made me delete them. Plus I never stated I'd seen it, I only said what the colours were which I thought people may have appreciated ?

I didn't know the club ran BRFCS

Just now, Madon said:

I've not seen it guys, it's just what I've heard so no idea on the shades of grey or what the pattern is I'm afraid. 

Yo should have said that a few pages back. I notice you've now deleted all your posts. 

Last week he LT said it would be early this week. 

12 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Yup, not saying all his signings have been great but consider Bell plays every week, as did Reed. Not to mention Samuel, Payne, Antonsson and Downing who played regularly and contributed to our promotion. Davenport looks every bit a player...Gave several u23’s their debut over two seasons (11 in total I think).

Not bad for a guy who blindly sticks with the players he’s inherited, makes all bad signings and apparently never plays them huh? 

So back to the signings, of all the ones he's made one is a liability at LB (Bell), one is brilliant (Dack), one he only played because he was desperate (Rothwell) and another who blows hot and cold (AA). They are the only ones that get in the team.

Raya, Mulgrew, Lenihan, Nyambe, Bennett, Evans, Travis, Williams, Graham he inherited. Those are the players he picks the most besides Dack, AA and Bell.

Mogga has spent £10m+ and 2.5 years achieving that. 

The transfer market is not his strong point. 

9 hours ago, Madon said:

Yep, with a pattern on one side

That kind of thing but dark grey instead of the black, and also a yellow pattern like the Stadion Jersey? 

If they do it right it could look good - although the pattern down the side could go very wrong.

Give me the yellow kits of the 70's and 80's over anything there's been since. 

Just now, Exiled_Rover said:

And to be fair he's rarely bought poorly - he's just taken 3/4 of the season to play them consistently!

He's rarely bought well, that's why the team is full of players he inherited. 

Like A Hourihane is one of my favourite Neil Young songs. 

https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2019/may/the-wheels-are-turning/

“ Any supporters reading this, the wheels are turning behind the scenes. Sometimes, unless you have got a barrel load of money and you just pay the asking price, we aren’t that club.  We need to get value for money, we need to make sure we spend the money as well as we can, and that’s what we’ll try to do."

Just now, Madon said:

No. It's grey halves ?

50/50 kit in different shades of grey? 

7 hours ago, Madon said:

Edit: Had to delete again ?

It's the Spartan Jersey design in Grey with Yellow trim innit??!!

1 hour ago, gumboots said:

A singing section sounds good in theory but in practice it could easily become this kind of meaningless entity. A home game needs as many as possible to be involved in the noise and atmosphere creation.

Thar's why singing sections work. The singing starts off there and (in theory) spreads around the rest of the stands. If no-one starts them then no-one else joins in. 

In the LT Sharpe said Mogga is looking at experienced players who will go straight in the 1st team. The positions he is looking at are GK, CB, CM and CF -i.e. an experienced spine. 

8 hours ago, Butty said:

Is that right? Didn’t see that. I think we could do a lot lot worse than bring him in. I think any talk of Ruddy Hart or Carson may be out of our wage bracket but let’s see. 

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3044245/rangers-wes-foderingham-blackburn-rovers/

Just now, Butty said:

Would anyone take Foderingham from Rangers as competition for Raya? He’s been number 2 there since they re-signed McGregor and there fans think very highly of him, I think he’s solid enough, wouldn’t be the worst signing we could make.

Think we were strongly linked with him last summer. 

@Sparks Rover That Whiteman fella must be a bit shit if he's the midfield fulcrum of a side that's just been battered at home

Just now, OnePhilT said:

I'd argue that confidence in a goalkeeper probably breeds confidence in a defender, so you could easily argue that a "better" keeper would improve the defence.

Definitely. If Raya could dominate his area our defenders wouldn't look as shit defending corners and set-pieces.  Raya also doesn't look like a great organiser of his defence on corner and set-pieces. 

A better keeper would improve the defence and the defenders.

Just now, rigger said:

If we had signed Lev Yashin in his prime he would not have improved our defenders last season.

21 hours ago, rigger said:

Where have I stated that I am unsure if the keeper is part of a defence. The discussion started over whether changing our keeper would solve our defensive problems. I do not believe it would. 

You've confused yourself. 

Just now, rigger said:

But that was not the choice. It was between Raya and a different keeper, or an upgrade on center half.    

It was a choice between a Raya and a better keeper and whether that would make a difference to our defence if nothing else changed. You answered no. See below. So what you're saying is that Brad Friedel in his prime would make no difference to our defence when clearly he would. 

2 hours ago, Torgeir said:

Do you believe if we swapped Raya for someone else (better) but sign no other defenders, that it would improve our defence? Yes or no?

6 minutes ago, rigger said:

No