2 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

He doesn't look quick to me though. Looks gangly 

Looked like he had a bit of pace from his YouTube highlights. If anything he looks like he's lost a yard of pace since he signed. 

7 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

No, he wasn't. Had a stigma here form day 1 because an unpopular manager signed him from the lower leagues. 

Yeah, Keith Andrews was nowhere near useless. He wasn't great but he automatically became a scapegoat for a lot of fans. 

20 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

How can a player look quick but not actually be quick? 

Brereton

2 minutes ago, Neal said:

I've watched him many times and he's all of the above. Pish. Exactly what we don't need if we have any promotion aspirations. 

Frustrating. Obviously wasn't one of our top targets otherwise we would've had some movement before the final day of the window. 

Just now, Neal said:

Don't think Atsu would be a good signing personally.

I've just spoken to a few mates that are Toon fans and they think he's OK. Apparently works hard and looks quick, but actually isn't. Didn't seem like a class above for them in Championship as they'd have expected, but he'd do OK. 

1 minute ago, Glosrover said:

ironically that's what Utd originally thought too.  He was at Manure originally before he was binned off to Hull [from where we got him].

Solkaer or his Norwegian connections must see something in him......

He was only on loan at Hull. We actually signed him from United after an initial loan spell. 

1 minute ago, JoeH said:

Sell on fee doesn't work like a quick bank transfer into Tony Mowb's Lloyds and there's a cheeky 5mil and Jozwiaks a Rover. It'll be the summer before we see the effect of that compensation, but will help massively with FFP more than anything. 

I don't think anyone is insinuating that. I very much doubt that any of it would be made available today should it go through. As you say, it's great for FFP though.

Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

Getting excited about a sell on fee on deadline day. The life of a Rovers fan ?

At least it's brought us all together for a little while!

Just now, JoeH said:

Thank god Tariq Lamptey is going to Brighton and not here. Would be the worst outcome if we went and signed a winger from an Under 23's team in the same fecking division as ours, when we have Harry Chapman, Joe Rankin-Costello and 'Birthday Boy' Stefan Mols ready and waiting to be called upon.

I'd sooner sign nobody than be wasting wages on other peoples youth players for 6 months.

I'm inclined to agree with you on that. But you've got to think that he has something if Brighton are signing him for £4million.

If he was a left back, then fair enough. But he's not. Let's move on to the next one, preferably in a position we need filling!

9 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

The summer we agreed the 7 million brereton deal and had freeman rejected for 5 million? The money wasn’t an issue.  The rovers credit with interest is the leak ?‍♂️

If you remember, that deal and bid came right at the very end of the window when Venky's apparently injected a lump of cash Mowbray hadn't been expecting. 

5 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

An example of why names aren’t given out like sweets- John mcginn. Leaked and we lost out, we were 70% down the line with that one

100% not having that it was the leak that scuppered the deal. Rovers were credited with interest ages before he signed for Villa. The club failed to make the most of being first in line and paying the money they wanted for him. Why that is, is anybody's guess. We were crying out for a player like him. Seem to remember Mowbray backing the likes of Smallwood to continue his fine work from L1 at the time. He probably thought we didn't need him. Look at how that has turned out. 

Just now, OldEwoodBlue said:

show me somewhere besides your fantasy which mentions £3 mill and I will gladly stand down

I don't understand why you're getting so wound up by the suggestion. If we were to sell Rothwell now, do you think the club would sell him for less then £3m? 

Taking player valuations from that site as gospel just destroys your argument anyway. Unless clubs go on there and provide valuations for their players, surely you've got to agree that they're made up figures as well. By the way, clubs won't do that..

Just now, Dave574 said:

Im lost of word. My info earlier was not wrong, the deal between club was 100%, just an issue with the payments as explained. Now, in the last 2 hours, one other Championship-club has come in for the same player. The odd thing - its a bid and not for loan. Did not get specifics but was told that the bid was ridiculosy high. The club consider but rates him highly and would prefer loan.

This is just bad negotioans-tactics. The deal could have been done and officially annunced yesterday if Mowbray was a bit more cynical.

Do you mean clinical? 

Just now, 1864roverite said:

Let’s wait and see instead of juicing one off

But how will we reach 300 pages in the transfer thread?

11 minutes ago, unleaded said:

Like TM keeps saying I usually need to calm the owners down when they want to splash the cash .... 

The Recruiting department is still building so meanwhile we sit with a begging bowl and hope X or Y get knocked out of the FA cup ...

Elliot and Jones are young pups ! 
Here’s hoping jRC gets his long overdue chance .. 

 

 

 

I was thinking the same two. Would be a pleasant surprise. Think I'd much prefer Curtis Jones, although I live in Liverpool and they rate Elliott really highly too. 

There's talk on Twitter that it's likely Hull in for Maddison. Grosicki is meant to be in talks with West Brom and they might be selling Bowen. 

Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

Ok. Forgot that. 

They didn't understand football and were being advised by charlatans. 

Yeah it was a shame he was moved on. A bit rough around the edges but he had loads of potential. Proved himself at Europa League level after he left. 

9 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

I think Kalinic was before their time. 

Look something dodgy went on with Kean and Anderson. I think Venkys took a huge scalding from that and I'd say we don't know the half of it. They have out serious money in since then. Just look at the figures. 

Kalinic was definitely still around. He led the line a couple of times for Kean when he first took charge.

As someone has already suggested, Luke Freeman seems to fit the profile. We were interested in him before he moved to Sheff Utd and they've also been on a cup run. I'd be incredibly surprised if we managed to sign some of the big names that have been mentioned so far.

58 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

When we can’t even scrape 3 mill for a player these days- small change in current climate, you really think there would be a green light to strengthen considerably? Need a sheff Utd approach of getting a good core of young players and letting them grow together rather than the villa approach of sneaking up, spending big, coming straight back down with mega wages, our club would sink if we done that.

granted mowbray ain’t the man to gel this team , which is why first step for promotion for me would be canning him. If he got us up he would be here forever on the back of that , no matter if he took us straight back down. Some fans still cite league 1 promotion as reason to keep him 

We're a small town club that's been out of the Premier League for ages and more recently been in League 1. We hemorrhage money every month. £3m isnt small change for us. Plus we've recently spent big money on Brereton and Gallagher. Naturally, gaining promotion to the Prem and having access to the money that brings with it would give us money to spend. We'd be in a better place financially.

You've given two extreme ends of the spectrum there. There's a whole lot of middle ground.

To be fair, I agree with you on Mowbray. I don't see much progression under his management but we could have a lot worse in charge. I can't say I'd be confident of the club finding an adequate replacement if we were to move him on. Their track record is hardly inspiring.

20 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

We would all be buzzing and it is the end goal but I don’t think this team/ current structure are anywhere near ready for the prem. without significant backing and a new manager I could honestly see us near a record low points, which wouldn’t be pleasant for any of us. If we go up i want to feel like we are ready to make a decent fist of it to stay there, squeezing up through the playoffs and then getting mullered every week could cause more damage than good imo.

might be unpopular opinion and of course I want to get up to prem but I don’t like this team currently, doesn’t feel ready to me 

I've heard this view a few times and I personally find it insane. Even if you get to the Prem and come back down having been battered every week, the financial reward for that completely outstrips any arguments for staying within this division.

Going up would also give us extra funds (providing they were made available) to improve the squad, with the additional pull of Premier League football. So it wouldn't be a given that we'd come straight back down anyway. 

None of this really matters though because for the second season running we find ourselves in and around the playoff picture, but haven't took the initiative and properly strengthened in January. Yet.

Whenever I tell people who I support, I usually get some line about Pedersen having been great or "they've had some good players". I've never lived in or around the Blackburn area, so whenever I use Rovers, they usually have to ask whether I mean Blackburn. Saying that, I will use Rovers whenever possible. 

In summary, most football fans find us completely irrelevant nowadays. Especially if you're not in the local area. We're like a bit of nostalgia for them. 

Surprised to see Mulgrew back, but given our current crop of defenders always seem to be a game away from injury, it might be useful to have him around.

On a related note I had this shirt curse growing up where I'd get a Rovers player printed on my shirt and they'd leave the following window. This year I bought a Seattle Seahawks shirt with Lynch on the back and he re-signed for them out of retirement. Last night I wore my Mulgrew shirt from a few seasons ago and today he's reappeared from the abyss. Does anyone want to send me an old shirt to wear so we can get someone good back? Tugay!? Shearer?

Downing hands down for me. Given his quiet second spell at Middlesbrough, I wasn't expecting much from him. He's provided us with a bit of creativity and performed well in all the positions we've needed him to play in.

As the season goes on I think Armstrong will push him close. 

16 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

To be honest, its not about stifling flair and creativity, rabona-ing that shot to create an easy save was an unnecessary waste of a very good attacking position.

I don't disagree with that. But I was framing that in context of Rovers at the time. His decision making could've been improved significantly with coaching.