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12 hours ago, roversfan99 said:
Walton
Bennett Lenihan Williams Cunningham
Travis Downing
Holtby Dack Rothwell
Armstrong
Subs: Leutwiler, Adarabioyo, Nyambe, Evans, Johnson, Chapman, Graham
Not quite sure thats where I would play Holtby or Armstrong ideally, but for me thats our best bet.
Not disagreeing but in the world Rovers live in financially with FFP / annual losses of £15-20 million , spending £12million in last 12 months on 2 strikers who can’t make your best 18 should be a managerial hanging offence .
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51 minutes ago, rovers11 said:
If only we had a top class striker, we’d then be very firm favourites for a top 6 slot. Gallagher doesn’t look the answer on any level. I’d even move Samuel ahead of him.
Most championship sides would expect to have if they’d spent £12 million . Mowbray has just wasted it.
also anyone like to know when Tosin will get a game for the £1million loan Dee we supposedly paid? Mowbray won’t be dropping Lenihan or Williams any time soon yet I thought Tosin was supposed to be wonder kid who had to play under the agreement with Citeh ?
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56 minutes ago, rovers11 said:
For the second game in a row, we have seen a robbery at ewood park. No idea how Luton took three points off us and no idea how Forest have gone away with a point. Completely dominated both games.
Really promising signs but frustrating not to win that one. The progress we’ve made in keeping the ball and dominating teams is really starting to show.
Honestly?
We barely create a chance of any note. Play around with it in non dangerous areas , the ball doesn’t get to Dack or Graham early enough making us easy to play against . Two game where visiting keepers have had cigars on for 90 minutes.
the manager is a total Neanderthal . He has no idea how to set the team up .
Gallagher looks a shadow of even the player he was when last here but playing wide right is a total embarrassment and killing the lad .
Our players individually are as good as most in this division yet because we have a clueless manager we will bounce around in mid table . A proper manager would get out squad in the top 6 .
ive just had enough of this boring clown .
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Just now, DavidMailsTightPerm said:
Be careful what you wish for.
A bit like those fans that want Venkys to go - and leave us like Bury or Bolton.
Well let’s just hope Venkys are our owners for eternity and beyond then.
We can play guess the year when our debt will cross the £trillion mark and carry on thanking them for keeping the lights on
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Just now, Stuart said:
Dumb, given this wasn’t a game he was that bothered about. Does he get a three match ban?
If he does we can appeal it and ask for 3 years
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2 hours ago, Harry The Bass said:foot
Whilst I can find many issues with certain phrases or lines, I can’t help but still feel that the club is in a genuine “football persons” hand with TM. I feel confident in his ambitions and intentions.
Our collective expectation since he has arrived is now firmly towards the top end of the table, and whether your opinion is that we should’ve done far better so far, it’s hard to ignore that fact.
He is a genuine football persons man but one that many think is being left behind in a fast moving football world-tactically & technically .Eg I'd describe David Pleat as a genuine football man but the game has moved on dramatically way past him and many others.
Expectations on here are based on the statements TM and the club have made and the amounts that have been spent .Don't doubt his intentions but certainly question his ability to deliver on them on a number of levels.
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Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:
When posters go this far it really stands out as being blinkered with dislike for the manager that you can't see the wood from the trees.
He has his faults, but this isn't a balanced view at all.
Like to even move onto Travis and Johnson and try and get a dig in about them is really grasping at straws.
If Williams is playing well, does it matter who signed him? Could it not be said then that Mowbray saw something a lot of us didn't by having confidence in him to fulfill that role?
Ya, the jury is out on Brereton. I think Gallagher will be more effective. Either way, if Graham is the best option and scoring, well then the position is his to lose again.
I don't think anyone here WANTS Mowbray to fail .We want to win games and be successful. But the point I think he is making is that he has been here over 2 1/2 years with pretty decent budgets at his disposal and we have seen very little through multiple windows that tells us the set up and structure of the side is progressing. It is almost as if he is stumbling into a formation by constantly shuffling the pack. After 6 windows and 2 1/2 years or whatever deciding that Williams and now possibly Nyambe are good cover at CH hardly smacks of strategic planning. In Nyambe's case TM refers to him doing ok in that position for Namibia so its hardly been developed at Brockhall. Combine that with midfield and striker rotation and he seems not to be decided on either his preferred formation or his personnel . Additionally , we are always confused by his Subs and the carnage it creates to the shape of the team particularly when we are chasing games and it looks for all money to be very confusing to both players and fans. A tactical genius he is not , often out thought by opposition managers.
That's the real issue most of us have with this guy .
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55 minutes ago, Paul said:
You bet? Is that the extent of your evidence or argument? The figure isn't even mine, it's conjecture posted by someone else.
The story from the Wigan end of things is that they are paying £10k of his £14k a week. That’s from a source at Wigan that would usually be spot on.
just passing it on for what it’s worth
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3 hours ago, arbitro said:
Although it's open to interpretation I read this as backtracking by Mowbray and an attempt to lower supporters expectations (for the ones who believed his top 6 diatribe). The cost of loan players from Premier League clubs has always been fraught with risk and can be expensive. And competing with clubs receiving parachute payments can also be difficult but surely he was aware of this when he talked about top 6. Maybe he was cryptically telling us that the answer lies in bringing players in cheap from Europe but that didn't materialise either.
It reads to me that another season of 'stability' is in the offing and next summer when the loans and out of contract players go we will again begin a rebuild. We are going round in circles.
Completely agree. Kicking the can down the road. Another two windows …..'assess me /us after those''. How many windows did he want when he arrived for the rebuild?? What revolutionary new style can we expect after next Summer then? and god alone knows what kind of claptrap we will be forced to endure between now and then. Still , the booths and smart screens should still be in good working order to give us our marginal gains. FFS !!
There is zero indication he has any idea how to build a side other than ramming it with utility players. This bloke becomes more of a myth by the day.
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33 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:
People have been saying that "they write it off as tax" and other such theories for a while now. Yet, I have seen no detailed explanation on this. Is it that simple? I mean they have a lost a fortune and I don't think any creative accounting can offset that fully
You'd think so BDS ..…...like I said a whole separate topic and probably not really right under the Mowbray Out heading!!! Apologies Mods!!!
But don't let me stop you starting another one dedicated to that subject......not that any of us will have anything other than loads of conspiracy theories.
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Just now, PeteJD13 said:
Superb post, the only thing I would disagree with is if this run of poor results carries on they will sack him, I do not think they would tolerate relegation again. The potential issue is I can see Waggott trying to buy his mate extra games. Surely a Rowett, Pearson , Adkins wouldn't be any worse. Reading the facebook groups so many are blinded by Mowbrays BS and will look to any excuse to justify his continuance as manager.
Just now, PeteJD13 said:Superb post, the only thing I would disagree with is if this run of poor results carries on they will sack him, I do not think they would tolerate relegation again. The potential issue is I can see Waggott trying to buy his mate extra games. Surely a Rowett, Pearson , Adkins wouldn't be any worse. Reading the facebook groups so many are blinded by Mowbrays BS and will look to any excuse to justify his continuance as manager.
Yes like I said I don't think it will come early. I think it will if we have a shocking run. All of which leads us back to the point made by CNHC above.....what the hell do Venkys get out of shoving £20million a year into this money pit ??? A whole separate topic , I know but may be that's just it- as long as it doesn't cost us more than £20m a year and it doesn't give us bad PR like it used to do we will take that. In 10 years time when they are in to the tune of £400 million will we be writing the same stuff????
Absolute mess all round.
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Just now, Vilesinner said:
Well, I also like to give our younger players a chance to show they are ready to step up, if we can't do that in these games then what games?
We need to be very very careful with our centre backs.
Just now, Vilesinner said:Well, I also like to give our younger players a chance to show they are ready to step up, if we can't do that in these games then what games?
We need to be very very careful with our centre backs.
I know...….Game 3 of the season and a dilemma at home to a league 2 team who have lost both games. WTF have we become????
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3 hours ago, nathan_rovers1 said:But then if you are going to do it like that, look at 2 seasons worth of games....
Swings and roundabouts...
I agree with Stuart tbh Nathan.
Mowbray been here over 2 1/2 years now and at no stage has he looked like he is close to being tactically aware or knowing how to set a team up. We have shipped soft goals almost from the start of his tenure and lost or drawn games through silly goals conceded/poor game management or daft substitutions that wreck the shape of the team. I find it incredible that the shape of the team and ''style'' of play goes out the window repeatedly when he makes his subs. This happened in League One though generally teams weren't good enough to exploit it. In the Championship they do. He has been ultra conservative since he walked through the door and had he been bolder he might well have prevented relegation to League One. He remains ultra conservative.
He has publicly commented on 'defenders coming' and knows full well that we can't ship goals like we do. Yet in god knows how many windows , the defensive structure of the team is no different and in some cases neither are the personnel. His obsession with utility players knows no bounds and continually we have players in wrong positions .
I genuinely think he is a decent bloke at heart but has been pressured into some very strange outbursts of late and in my opinion , I think he is simply struggling at this level to compete tactically or organisationally. He is too old school and as some have said including myself , I think he is a decent chap but a managerial dinosaur . I don't think he has it in him to radically change and deal with the demands and footballing intelligence of a fast moving football world . He is naturally conservative and a steady hand which initially was needed but if you cant progress from that then you start to go backwards and that is what is happening here. He has nothing more in his locker than we have seen. So it is possible , god forbid, that he frustrates and infuriates us even more in the coming weeks.
But The whole Club looks to be behind the curve operationally at many levels , notably our scouting, and the owners aren't savvy enough to see it and therefore we bumble on as a club because he's a decent bloke and appears to be trying his best. The fact that his best isn't good enough is likely to mean that we will need a sequence of horrendous results before anything changes because nobody within the Club will rock any boats for fear of their own positions.
The Club is a cleft stick of mediocrity which most on here can see and which is why there is so much outrage at the claptrap comments they come out with which basically insults our intelligence. Most on here know what they are talking about in general (though there will always be differences of opinion on specific players etc) .We have lived through decades of this Club and know its capabilities, strengths and weaknesses all too well. The people in power at Ewood are largely people who don't have that depth or history with the Club and which is why we find it pretty offensive when they come out with the tripe that they do.
I don't see change coming early; it might happen if we have a total nightmare run of results .The owners wont want the hassle or the cost and the present incumbents won't want to put their heads above the parapet.
Conclusion: Stalemate, tread water at best. Flirt with relegation again at worst. Why? because we are badly owned and poorly managed.
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Local paper reporting the death of former midfielder John Lowey aged 61. Passed away at his home in Australia . His untimely death follows the recent passing of Kevin Stonehouse .
sad news , no age at all and puts things in perspective.
condolences to his family . RIP, John
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2 hours ago, tomphil said:
Whatever happens it all falls down to a chronic lack of planning again which is bizarre after the comments over the last 12 months regarding this position. Left to chance in favour of other areas and blind hope that suddenly certain players will overnight come good again despite massive evidence to the contrary and assuming others would be good enough or fit enough to cover.!)
Pretty novice stuff for a pro set up.
Completely agree.
the window has laid bare in bright lights how inadequate our set up is. We can debate the likes/dislikes of individual players but our whole approach to the window itself has been nothing short of shambolic. We have known since January where our glaring weaknesses are and this was shown up very clearly in the performances and goals conceded in Feb/March. TM makes very bold statements (I wont repeat them all again! ) about what is going to happen , how our scouting structure is being heavily invested and then we get statements about financial backing and similar budgets being made available by the owners .Basically as last season ended very public statements were made about what would happen in the window and how our target lists had been prepared .Out of the blue we sell our keeper the reasons for which were blagged by the club but don't worry the cash will be made available to supplement and make us better. In fact , is the Raya money still untouched??
We then stumble around like a bunch of drunks in the latter stages of the window , this could happen, that could happen , we still expect to do this that and the other in the final days.
Like Mulgrew or not, we end up on the final day loaning our captain to what most would consider an inferior rival in the same division and bring a left back in on loan. We bid for Reed , which must be some kind of joke given that he didn't play him in his right position and also we knew he didn't want to come north again.
The reality is that we now must rely on Nyambe/Williams at some point being central defenders if only because of injury and suspension during the season.
Not one fan thought we didn't need reinforcements at the back particularly Centre half and TM was also vocal in his agreement.
So what the hell happened? FFP has been dismissed by the Club as not an imminent threat yet we look like we are in some kind of fire sale to reduce our wage bill right at the death and this will (and actually sensibly should happen) continue with other members of the squad going to league one and two .
Its pretty much a shoe in that we will sign an out of contract centre back that nobody else wanted and it will be passed off as the plan all along.
But as an 'operation' the window and how we've approached it has been nothing short of disgraceful , punctuated by a mass of lies that culminated in the manager losing the plot and spouting more tripe than he usually does. Something has gone badly wrong that I don't think we've heard the last of .Bollox about new booths , smart screens etc to give us ''marginal gains on the pitch'' (don't get me going about that chancer , Waggott) , investment in our scouting network , bargains in Europe is looking outstandingly hollow and nonsensical as we sit here this morning and frankly I really fear for us this season. Not because I don't think we have some decent players and I expect we will play some decent stuff at times but our soft centre and sloppy goals conceded has not been addressed whilst we have unfathomably squandered big money on players that seem not to know if and where they will play.
If we embark on a poor run of results nobody will be surprised and in my opinion we have just reached a tipping point again where fury will quickly build and I don't think our management team is equipped to deal with that or put things right.
Prediction: bottom 6 for much of the first half of the season , with manager under mounting pressure before being relieved of his duties or walking end of November.
You would have to be the eternal optimist to be encouraged by where we have ended up at the end of this window in light of the narrative that has been coming out of the Club for the last 6 months.
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1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:
I'm amazed that none of the players that are obviously surplus to requirements aren't being linked with other clubs.
Because they will only go down the leagues as nobody thinks they’re up to it at Championship level . League one and two window stays open so that’s where they’ll be going!!
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Just now, magicalmortensleftpeg said:
A bad window and you’re refusing to go? After all these years, this is where you’ve drawn the line?
Chief Exec and Manager try to spin their way through a fans forum..?
I said I’d wait to judge until tomorrow and the writing is clearly on the wall. But save the drama. Far greater crimes have been committed at this club over the last 10 years.
TM has now made his bed. He’s had time and money to get the squad to where it should be. If the results don’t come in then it’ll be time to move on. The credit from 17/18 has run out.
Tbh Morten , yes . I ve simply had enough . It’s not one bad window , it’s an accumulation of bullshit in avalanche proportions from chancers within the Club.
We are being mugged off by some slimy fool who turned up minutes ago . Our Club means jack shit to that toe rag yet he pontificates like it’s in his blood.
You want stretch target - well unlike that bullshitting clown , I’ve reached mine!!
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4 hours ago, Miller11 said:These are the questions I submitted prior to the consultation meeting:
Could you outline the process that Tony has to go through to get a transfer green-lighted?
- Who decides what we will pay for a player and negotiates?
- Is Tony given a budget to spend as he sees fit, or does he identify targets and leave the issue of fees to thers? If so, who?
- Do the owners offer opinion on what they feel we need as a team? Do they suggest players or veto suggestions?
- From what has been reported previously, there seems a lot of back and forth between Ewood and Pune, which could make the transfer process somewhat convoluted. Could a situation arise where we sign a player for more than Tony would value them at, or even sign a player Tony doesn’t necessarily want?
Do the club/owners have an aversion to signing defenders?
- Since Venky’s took over we have recouped circa £45 million on selling defenders, whereas we have only spent around £6.5 million on defenders during that period (85% of which went on one player)
- There is a perception that we have a “make do and mend” approach to the defence, often with players playing out of position at the back
- There seems a willingness to spend money in other areas when it is apparent to most that our defence has been something of an Achilles heel for years now. We have had a high turnover of players in defensive positions, but we have invariably replaced players we have sold for decent sums with free or nominal fee transfers
- When Venky’s first came along they spoke about their preference for “exciting, young, attacking players” – the transfer history during their tenure supports this, but does this extend to an unwillingness to sanction spending on defensive players?
Are the board/management team regularly set objectives by Venky’s? How often are these reviewed?
- On pitch – what are the expectations? What was there reaction to our recent poor run of form? How aware of they and are they interested?
- Commercially – Are they aware of attendance levels, do they have any desire to improve this? Would the board need to seek approval for any radical changes to ticket pricing or other incentives aimed at improving gates?
- How accountable or the senior staff at the club, and how deeply do the Venky’s scrutinise what goes on at the club?
While it currently makes sense for Venky’s to continue to subsidise the running of the club and convert sums loaned to shares, the long term implications are worrying. They cannot keep doing this indefinitely.
- What is the long term plan to prevent the club haemorrhaging money? Realistically, increasing revenue (promotion) or severely cutting costs seem the only viable ways to achieve this – is there any immediate pressure to do either?
- What is Venky’s motivation for continued ownership? There can’t be any major benefit to their other business interests, despite murmurings after they initially took over no apparent attempts have been made for them to branch into UK markets. In fact, their brand image has undeniably suffered in the UK.
- Steve Gibson recently proposed a measure to allow greater transparency of club accounts, this was rejected by Championship clubs. What are your thoughts on this, and more generally the role of the EFL in such matters?
Sadly a number of former players have passed away recently with no acknowledgement from the club. While I don’t think it is realistic to honour each and every former player with a minutes silence, failure to put anything in the programme, or mention a few words over the PA at the next match seems somewhat disrespectful, and has irked fans on social media. Please could the club look into ensuring at least a mention is made when such sad events happen.
They answered the ones about Transfer process, Finances and Venky’s objective setting pretty comprehensively.
The deceased players wasn’t addressed (perhaps due to time issues).
The one about defenders was pre-empted and referred back to. It wasn’t answered as methodically as the others, but obviously everyone’s heard what Mowbray had to say about the defence. While they didn’t address the more specific points they reiterated all signings were Mowbray’s and were very convincing in their insistence we would sign defenders.
After the event a group of people were talking with Mowbray and I was involved. We got even more of his impassioned promises that defenders were coming. That’s when he made the comments about wanting better than Bauer. His words were “We tried to sign him last year, now he’s on a free his agent thinks he’s worth 40/50 grand a week. He’s been playing in league one. We need bigger and better. We need someone who’s going to come straight in and improve the starting 11”. I said something off the cuff “We should go for Jake Cooper from Millwall”, to which he replied “Yeah, players like that. He could be one we are looking at”. Aside from this there was some general discussion about the defence not being good enough, he was borderline ridiculing them for being scared/unable to head a ball.
With Waggott, I’d mentioned during the main part of the Q&A that I was one of the remaining boycotters. He said “we need you to come back” and asked for ideas to get more people through the door.
At the end I spoke to him one to one and told him that I was on the verge of buying a season ticket, but he had to understand the nonsense we had been through (he said ‘I know, I know’). He knew who I was and felt it would be a “positive statement for the club if you do come back”. I told him I doubted some of what he’d said, but I’d take him at his word, and that I felt for the first time in a long time we had people at the club being allowed to get on with their job, who valued the fans opinions and were working in our best interests. I thanked him for this but said that the proof would be in the transfer business we carried out. He reiterated that defenders were coming, and that we would be making signings to push the top 6. He raves about Rankin-Costello a bit too.
The last part is exactly where I’m at . They have about 18 hours to sort themselves out or I’m not going this season .
I made a pact with my self at the end of last season to see what we did transfer wise ( I was still stumped by what they did with the Brereton deal). I heard all that went on , heard all the statements they made and like you Miller , I thought let’s see if actions speak louder than words .
Technically there’s still time tomorrow but whatever happens I simply refuse to pay for the privilege again of being perpetually lied to . This Club stinks to high heaven and even the one guy with a shred of decency is now proving to be like the rest of them .
so Mr Waggott , if you want to know how to achieve your stretch target on tickets , you wish to know what you can do to get fans back in the ground , well I”ll tell you .
You can stop lying through your teeth , taking us all for mugs time and again and do your bloody job and that’s on the crass assumption that you’re capable of doing it to any extent .
one Summer of bullshit too many for me I’m afraid . I simply can’t stand to keep getting myself worked up over these complete cretins.
Very sad because I’ve been going for over 50 years but they’ve finally drummed it out of me . Well played Waggott and Mowbray , feed that back to your benefactor model goons in Pune .
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10 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said:
I wonder would Phil Jones come back on loan? I would say Tuanzebe is ahead of him now. That could be a great move for him...
I suppose United would prefer to sell or loan to a team who would actually pay his wages
And just how much do you think those wages are mate?
we haven’t got a pot to p1ss in as I thought you might have picked up in the last 652 pages - we spent it on booths and smart screens !!!
as Mercer said earlier , the content of that article from Waggott is beyond belief.He is another in a long kind of self serving idiots in that role at Ewood . Smug bar steward would be better keeping his trap shut and going his bloody job properly . Stretch target , flex .... what a tit.
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37 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:
Think that result today might force a hand, honestly not had anything concrete in weeks
For me Mowbray has 5 days to save his own arse . That was as horrific as we all knew it would be when we saw the team , particularly the defence. TM has made these comments about defenders coming yada yada but if he doesn’t deal before Thursday he should be sacked for negligence .
We all know leagues aren’t won and lost in August but they are often won and lost in transfer windows of which this clown has had 6 and done nothing to a defence that got us relegated 2 years ago and which shipped 69 goals last season .OK , Tosin but if we really expect a 21 year old rookie to turn our defence round then it’s frankly delusional.
We have to sign 2 or 3 proper defenders who will kick and scratch their way to clean sheets as if their lives depend on it . Now is not the time to sign children. Experienced tough guys only. It concerns me that our youngsters will never get the chance to flourish whilst we leak goals as we do because TM will always feel like we’re putting them under too much pressure in a struggling team . Conversely if we are watertight at the back then it gives a bit more licence going forward and our younger players can be given more opportunities .
But if this isn’t resolved by Thursday with a couple of hard nut defenders then our season is knackered before game 2.
i mentioned the Croatian lad earlier in the week captain of his club and in Croatia squad . Aged 28 proper thug - whether he’s one I don’t know but that’s what kind we need immediately not a few kids on loan . Whether or not this happens by Thursday tea time will define our season and very probably Mowbrays future .
If we get the defence right I actually think we have enough further up the pitch but continually leaking shit goals completely deflates the rest .
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Just now, Stuart said:
If I were him I’d be on to my agent about a move. He isn’t going to get any change out of Mowbray. Johnson, Downing and even Gallagher will play before him.
And while spend money so we can bench our best player, we don’t invest in our defence - despite all of the evidence.
Will this be a wake up call for Mowbray? He is putting his reputation on the line for Mulgrew. The senior players have far too much power.
On a side note, has Dack kicked the ball today?
Hey Stuart with this defence we’ll do well to keep it down to 69 conceded this season .
This was our chance to get a few points on the board before some tough games . Be lucky if we’re off nil points by September .
If he thinks a 19 year old will transform that defence into Fort Knox then he’s thicker than I thought ..... and that’s seriously thick
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Just now, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:
Not one shot on target. Simply not good enough. Sort it out Tony FFS.
Don’t worry Gav we’re dark horses !!
terrible luck to have the misfortune to play at home first game of the season . We’re up against a really tough side who have the momentum of promotion . It’s a really hard division with some really big clubs .
total balloon our manager
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Just now, BankEnd Rover said:
He doesn't though. Rothwell did more than enough at the end of last season to show that he can track back and cover. It makes no sense at all.
Let’s hope Mercer is in a no reception area with that team selection .
i have to agree back four rubbish, summer wasted, far too conservative from a Neanderthal manager . Rothwell must be spewing .
i half wondered last night when reading about being at home first game is no advantage.This idiot manager will talk is out of promotion even in the event we threatened the top end of the table . Leave that to the much bigger clubs eh Tony?
not close to top 6 with that set up at the back.
but hey ho let’s hope we start with a win .
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1 hour ago, RV Blue said:
Signing this guy means nothing if we don’t get another centre half in. We also need another left back, but that’s not happening. One of the foreign CHs mentioned signing would mean we’ve had a decent(ish) window, as of now we’ve had a poor one.
Well I’m with you and if Skoric the Croatian joins us as the experienced one/ much needed animal then I think we have plenty of options and cover to get us feeling optimistic about challenging top 6 .
if we don’t get that type then it’s a big miss by Mowbray and potentially the difference between being up there and nearly men again. All of the above on the basis that he goes for it and doesn’t prepare like we’re playing Real Madrid every bloody week .
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Spot on . Football made highly complex by this clown . Where do you see the top sides making changes to personnel or to systems the way this bloke does? Pick the team you want and think is your best 11 and stick with it and let the opposition worry about us . By we spend to much time over thinking the opposition and building them up to be Barca.
Is it really a surprise to us that we are short defensively? Defenders are coming , he signs Tosin who after 12 games has barely been sighted through a telescope and tries to persuade us that Lenihan and Williams are the solution . Lunacy. Then we have a makeshift right back who he makes captain !!
After that it really is tombola time further forward with the squandering of £12million on 2 non scoring strikers- job losing decisions in any other all of life.
ive never been more disillusioned tbh - going absolutely nowhere when in reality we have individuals who with a good manager would be hunting the top 6.
the sad thing is we all knew deep down this was very very likely to happen once the window shut and the lies were laid bare .
new identity/ playing style my ass . Sell by date passed a long time ago .
Thanks for your efforts Tony but time to say goodbye.
Quick quiz question:
who is most confused ?
1) venkys
2) Mowbray and Venus
3) the players
4) the fans
Answers on a bloody postcard!!!!