I’ve criticised the guy for quite a lot, but there was nothing really in the sending off and I’m not going to slag him off for that. Plus at least he was showing a bit of urgency about the situation. I’d be more bothered by him if he was just stood there, hands in pockets, no concerns.

21 minutes ago, tomphil said:

A few did but also the club did via ticketmaster etc then pretended  they didn't know why whole sections of seats in the corner of the JW and Riverside that had been empty all season were suddenly full.

Fans took all the blame though of course.

Did ticketmaster even selling football tickets, let alone Rovers tickets, in 2000 when City came to town? I’m not even sure we were selling online back then. That may even have been in Rovers pre-Grooby web days.

Certainly for the Worthy cup final in 2002 I had to go down and buy tickets from the ground or over the phone.

10 hours ago, Torgeir said:

I am not convinced by Hull. Norwich I hope will do their part to ensure their spot and try and avoid sixth.

I trust Liam Rosenior to make a fight of it more than David Wagner.

20 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

xG doesn't take into account who takes the shot. It's why players over and under perform their xG. 

Regardless of who is in that position, I'd expect the XG to be higher than 0.5. Just my opinion.

I'd think a professional footballer would put that away more than 1 in 2. I mean, I'm looking at that situation and thinking I would put that away more than 50% of the time !!

I just think it's all perceptive between what someone thinks a chance should be rated against other chances. A similar chance might happen in a game 2 weeks later and will it still be rated as 0.46 ? Or does someone else rate it differently? And then it's used as a comparison against other players and against other games. It's all very subjective. 

I've no real issue with XG. It gives an indication of how a game is going or who had the better chances. But when we are comparing that Pears is -0.1 and Leo is -0.16, that's so close it (and most other keepers are around there) I dont think it tells us much .

53 minutes ago, rob_of_the_rovers said:

We're 5th worst on the number of expected goals prevented. Pears is -0.1 per 90, Leo is -0.16 per 90

https://fbref.com/en/comps/10/keepersadv/Championship-Stats

After Szmodics blazed his chance over the bar on Saturday against Coventry, our XG went to 0.46 

Does that more often than not you would expect Sammy NOT to score that chance? 

XG just a bit nonsensical to me. 

https://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=75588&start=50

Regarding the idiot who is now plastered all over twitter and all over the internet, UTC have locked the thread of their fans condemning the prick. I don't think the 

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to allow a fair trial, all footage (including pics) have been removed from this thread. I've also locked the thread as also requested to ensure there is no further conversation on the subject.

3 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Its all geting very desperate. Trying to include a win he wasnt even officially in charge of having not been appointed 24 ours prior, just because he had a meeting with Johnson and Lowe and he came down after half time. Stat padding because we all know his results have been terrible.

Also echoing Eustace's negative "what if we lose" mentality to justify keeping 5 defenders on against an exhausted 10 men with the prize of survival on offer if we won.

BBC, Sky, Rovers own website and the Lancashire Telegraph all say Sunderland was the first official Eustace win. All football stats websites give him 2 wins. It’s just a bonkers, desperate argument. It’s not like it suddenly makes anything more impressive. It would just mean that every home performance since then has been worse.

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

I see it as 1 home win for Eustace. He was part of pre match discussion with Johnson pre game, Eustace was on the touchline during the game. His win. You don't. We aren't going to agree. Let's leave it there 

Rovers website disagrees with you. 

My post and point was that we know what happens if we have 3 centre halves. We don’t score and don’t win the game. I’m not sure why you won’t agree with that but it’s a fact. It’s what happened.

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

It was JDT choice between the 2 players. That's GB public comments. Who the La Liga striker I don't know but find a few possibilities it could be tho. 

At best, JDT got given a choice between two pieces of shit and got asked which one he wanted. It’s up to Broughton and his team to find and suggest the players, not JDT. Sorry but I don’t suck up what Broughton and Waggot say like a salivating lap dog.
 

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We got a point, had 30 shots and dominated the second half. 

Still in our hands going into the last game

OK, but irrelevant to the topic we are discussing.

So back on topic, We know what happens if we keep 3 centre halves on against Coventry.

0 goals. 0 home wins for Eustace. 1 point against 10 men. Last day peril.

We’ve gone from a manager who believed we could beat any time regardless of the opposition (see West Ham / Leicester away), to one who doesn’t trust his team to go for a win against 10-man Coventry at home. 

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

JDT choice to for Telalovic 

At best, JDT got given a choice between two pieces of shit and got asked which one he wanted. It’s up to Broughton and his team to find and suggest the players, not JDT. Sorry but I don’t suck up what Broughton and Waggot say like a salivating lap dog.
 

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We might have lost the game or still draw the game or won the game. We will never know

We know what happens if we keep 3 centre halves though.

0 goals. 0 home wins for Eustace. 1 point against 10 men. Last day peril.

We’ve gone from a manager who believed we could beat any time regardless of the opposition (see West Ham / Leicester away), to one who doesn’t trust his team to go for a win against 10-man Coventry at home. 

10 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Rovers had a choice to make between a loan striker from la Liga aged 31 or Telalovic and JDT/GB picked Telalovic. I don't know who this 31 aged La Liga striker was. 

Another Broughton master stroke. At least Telalovic wasn’t his major striking target. That was Ennis.

47 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

so my explanation of why we didn't change formation was exactly what I said it was. 

Yes. And ultimately it meant we didn't score and didn't win against 10 men. Therefore going into the final day in a precarious position against the champions-elect rather than being safe. Bravo.

Plus the fact remains that they may only have played 2 up front because we stuck with 3 at the back.

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

Funnily enough I may (or may not) have been at the services on the motorway this morning and may (or may not) have seen Mark Robins. I  asked him "Why did you leave two men up front, even with 10 men?" He gave a fairly logical explanation. Here's what he said:-

"Blackburn kept 3 centre halves on the pitch meaning we were not so outnumbered in midfield or at the back. Therefore we kept two up top with the hope to try and nick a goal. What we didn't want was them passing it through us by having an extra man in midfield, but because they utilised their extra man in defence we just though "you stupid bastards" and let them pass it around at the back. I had some defensive players ready to come on had Blackburn gone more positive, but they seemed quite content with a point"

16 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Luton made a number of offers below what we accepted for 2.5m. Source GB's comments 

With Thomas, it was different. We felt one of the goalkeepers would go this summer. The moment Luton came in, Thomas was clear that he wanted to play in the Premier League and Luton was a viable option to do that.

"We weren't prepared to bend our valuation on Thomas just because he said that. We had some difficult conversations with Thomas in Austria when Luton were insistent they wouldn't go above their bid. We wouldn't drop earlier.

"My only concern was we knew the others that were being tabled for Leo (Wahlestedt), who was our first choice as a replacement for Thomas or Aynsley (Pears). Luton eventually started to move closer to our number for Thomas 

 

 

I know you are ultra gullible and believe every word that comes out of people like Broughton and Waggot. But believe it or not sometimes people say things which aren't true to put out an appearance.

Nowhere has Broughton or Waggot said "We had to sell Adam Wharton earlier than we liked because we have cash flow problems due to the Indian court case", but we clearly know this is true.

Therefore, what Broughton should have said on TK was "We rejected some bids to try and get the price up, but ultimately £2.5million was as much as we could get. We could have a possible cash flow issue coming up which makes us a more willing selling club that we would like."

Here's Rich Sharpe, back in July in the LT, saying "It is understood that Rovers would want between £3m and £4m were they to allow Kaminski, who has two years left to run on his contract, leave this summer." Another article online , quoting Nixon as its source, saying we would want up to £5 million. (Also frustratingly JDT saying he expects nobody to leave and he wants quality coming into the squad ).

If Luton would have stopped at £2million we would have played hardball for a few days and then taken it.  Szmodics will leave this summer for whatever the highest bid we can get will be. It will have nothing to do with a 'valuation'.

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

and if you remember rightly we didn't accept their first bid but waiting till we got their asking price we wanted. same with other players like Wharton and BBD cos we rejected 3 bids that didn't meet our asking price 

No with Kaminski we got to the figure we thought Luton would pay and then sold. He was worth far more than £2.5 mill.

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

if we set that valuation on him then we won't shift from that. 

 But I thought once a Premier League team comes in there’s nothing you can do to keep a player who wants to move. Cos that’s what you’ve said about Kaminski all season.

21 minutes ago, martonrover said:

Yes, perhaps, and Mowbray well over-stayed his welcome, but I do think JDT’s overall performance has been elevated to well beyond reality by some.

The horrible losing streaks, (for example when the pressure was on at the business end of last season), are clearly a Venkys trait, rather than a managerial one.

 

 

It’s not elevated beyond reality. JDT had very good spells, ok spells and very bad spells. However for the first time since 2012 I think some of us actually thought we had a genuine chance of promotion last season under him, that was until the transfer window was fucked up and the results wilted under pressure at the end.

This season started quite well but we now know JDT had had enough and didn’t want to be here, and his stubbornness was affecting results and morale. 

Eustace however has shown nothing other than negativity, culminating in a points return equaling JDT’s worst ever spell (with the previous mentioned injuries) and hasn’t won a single home game, scoring just 4 in 7 games at Ewood.  That’s just piss poor.

1 hour ago, martonrover said:

Also, Eustace hasn’t had the luxury of having Adam Wharton at his disposal

He’d have probably dropped him for another centre back anyway.

4 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Hedges ? How long did he return for -20 minutes ?

Surprisingly (I have to admit), he played 9 games (starting 8 of them) after JDT left, including the Stoke and the Sunderland wins. 
More than I thought.

5 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Why are Norwich going to field a weakened team when they haven't clinched a play off spot ?

Same reason Huddersfield are down. Although obviously I hope you are right.

1 minute ago, martonrover said:

We were on a one way ticket to relegation when he took over,(cue cries of blasphemy from JDT disciples).

Because it’s simply an unknown. I’m fairly sure the return of Hedges, Hyam, JRC, Gallagher, Pears and Dolan might have given JDT a bit of a chance to stop the slide. 
 

33 minutes ago, Giant said:

History is full of irony, BRFC has a great history. We missed the playoffs on goal difference in 2023, if we go down in 2024 it will be on goal difference. Also the Norwich manager has a history of playing a weakened team, when he was at Huddersfield, to our disadvantage in 2017. I’ve no doubt he will do the same at Birmingham now that his team are definitely in the playoffs. Our only hope is Hull getting something at Plymouth. The omens aren’t good.

I have to admit coming off the ground yesterday I was looking at the table thinking we were in a good situation. This morning however , it still looks so precarious. Norwich will field a weakened team, and I expect West Brom to be well in front early against Preston so Hull will know whatever they do at Plymouth is probably futile.

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Ayari came on straight after the red card. 

I meant for a centre half. Not like for like with JRC.