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  1. Remember reading something a while ago (and if I remember rightly) that his brother or sister was quite ill and the family decided to move to California for the sunshine , think he was about 5 when they moved.

    Maybe oldjamfan can shed some light on the above

    Yes I think that was the story. He has quite a few relatives still living in Darwen, mainly second cousins and their offspring. There is obviously a musical gene in the family - my granddad (his great uncle if I've worked it out correctly) was a well known local musician and ballroom dancer in his day.

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  2. Believe me I've handled stress a lot better recently for the most part. As you say however "not good for you" and if you recall I was kicked out of Ewood. I did that because I was at an extreme level of stress. Believe me I have social anxiety and honestly don't want publicity which is the reason I stick to forums. I call it social anxiety you can call it being a coward hiding behind a keyboard if you like! if I wanted publicity why on earth did I leave at that point? Surely that would have made no sense? How do you know a ban wouldn't have followed soon after. I was lucky not to be arrested for trespassing! I'm not trying to come across as a martyr (I'm not) its simply my nature to defend myself. If people get upset about Kean and Venkys (and rightly so) nobody would call that trivial. A lot of that is about what they have done to Jack's legacy so really its along the same lines.

    Yes Jack never courted publicity (going on the pitch to celebrate or speak to the fans are the most public things he did) but it bothers me that he isn't more famous than he is. Especially when people like Ferguson (and yes I note the media lovefest for United) get constant eulogies written about them probably by journalists he's threatened to ban in the past. Egomaniacs like him being referred to as "sir" while a good, decent man like Jack gets nothing in comparison.

    That's another reason why I've complained so much about "local mentality." Its about protecting his legacy AND wanting him to be remembered for ever. I was always a huge fan of Jack even at my lowest point that never wavered. Maybe I should just let the obsession with this go (nobody can say I haven't spoken up for Jack though its not like I made a big PR stunt out of going to his gravesite like BRAG did) but you know why its hard? Because I am loyal regardless of what you think.

    If this isn't the last post I make on this thread (on this subject at least) please suspend my posting for a few days. I'm tired of talking about it and we are never going to totally agree are we?

    If Jack wasn't bothered about being famous, why on earth should you be bothered on his behalf?

    And you say Jack got nothing in comparison to SAF. Well, I'll tell you something that Jack got. Wealth that us ordinary folk could only ever dream about, and as a direct consequence of that, living the dream of funding his beloved football club and allowing them to bloody a few noses and win things, including being champions of England. Thankfully, he was able to share that part of his adventure with the rest of us. While I'll be eternally grateful for that, the man is dead and buried now and if he didn't court publicity while he was alive he'll hardly give a stuff now, will he?

    I don't know you, and I'm not really familiar with your history, but as someone who has suffered his own mental health issues in the past, I do genuinely sympathise and empathise with you in lots of ways, but you're like an alcoholic that keeps going back to the bottle. There are some things you'll never, ever be able to change or even influence, but you keep on picking at the scab, and I suspect doing yourself harm in the process. Then there are some areas where you actually do have interesting things to contribute, and perhaps a slightly different perspective to many of us, which is often a good thing. The trick for you Vinjay is to develop a safety valve that allows you to filter out what to get involved in and what to ignore.

    Take it easy pal.

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  3. Another little known one, starred in every episode of one of arguably the big US tv shows of the seventies and all spin off movies (6), might not know the name but the face? the guy above "grandma" and now a respected guitarist / musician Jon Walmsley

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Walmsley http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0909455/

    My cousin!

    Lee Mack supports Rovers, is there any connection to the town though? I know he was born in Southport and lived part of his childhood in Darwen.

    Lee Mack went to Everton School so I assume he lived in Blackburn at some point?

  4. Vinjay, suggesting someone other than Uncle Jack as the most famous Blackburn lad ever is not tantamount to being a traitor against Blackburn Rovers Football Club. I could be cruel here and say that buggering off to support another club is!

    I live in Scotland, and I can categorically assure you that even those who follow football and are old enough to remember 1994/95 will not necessarily be able to remember the name of the old fella who funded that particular football team. However, even leaving aside the fact that he was a multiple world champion at a sport watched by millions, if not billions, world wide, thanks to the power of national TV, Carl Fogarty is famous throughout the UK for his victorious stint on I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here .In fact, if I were to stand on Sauchiehall Street in the centre of Glasgow, and ask everyone who walked past me if they knew who 'Foggy' was, a significant proportion of them would, mainly through his jungle stint but there would be many who are motorsport fans too. If I were to ask who 'Jack Walker' was, you'd get as many folk mentioning Coronation Street as you would Blackburn Rovers or for that matter Walkers Steel, and in either case it really wouldn't be that many.

    You need to seriously calm the kean down matey, getting that stressed over something as trivial as this is not good for you.

    As for some of the other names mentioned; I've met Wayne Hemingway many times through my work. He's a proper Rovers fan and loves catching up with other Rovers on his travels, though he's not really from Blackburn, as such (born in Morecambe I think). He lived in the town as a child and young adult but now lives down on the south coast somewhere. He does consider himself to be from Blackburn and that's good enough for me.

    Matt Smith: Had he been from Blackburn I would have said he was a contender just because of the coverage and popularity of Doctor Who. However, as others have said he was born down south somewhere. I am almost certain his dad was a Darrener, Dave Smith, and in fact I think I may have played football against him as a kid. Matt himself was a good footballer by all accounts.

    Some great posts on here, love the fact that the inventor of Vimto was from Blackburn!

  5. Nah - He was a Man Utd fan

    The question wasn't "Most famous Rovers fan ever?" though, was it?

    As far as 'Blackburn Lads' go, if you take them at the peak of their popularity, Fogarty will be up there with Ian McShane. The likes of Jim Bowen (although he's probably not from Blackburn at all) and Russell Harty were hugely popular in their day, but perhaps only within these shores? I can't really think of any others.

  6. Joshy went a long way to winning this one. But the thing about this England team is that potentially 7-8 players could 'do a Josh' and win any game from almost any position. The reason I didn't turn off after South Africa has amassed that massive score against us.

    Sincere apologies, I don't normally do this kind of pedantic thing, but the lad is actually called Joseph, and calls himself 'Jos'. There's something about getting someone's name wrong that brings out the pedant in me Heskey.

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