You want a player to stay who refused to wear the shirt by not wanting to play for Colchester. Its irrelevant how good he is/was. He has to go because he didnt give a toss about our club and dint want to play for us and didnt care how we did. This is born out be the fact the the club says he fused to play for us and the onlt thing he has said about us since he left is that rover v Bolton is not like Rangers v Celtic. Not a single word about the club, his teamates, playing in the premeisrhip. Just how moving was a big mistake and how he is so hapy to be bck at Rangers.

I'm still puzzled by the legal implications of this. Why did not Rovers suspend him without pay when he refused to play ? Any lawyers out there ? What would they gain apart from annoying him. At they point they probably just decided to put all their effort into getting the most from Rangers. And who says we have paid Fergsuson?

Why Barry had to go - LET

I see that people have been changing their minds on this poll. At lunchtime more felt we were wrong to sell him. Then the LET reports he didnt want to play v Colchester and he says he was wrong to ever leave Rangers and it was a mistake joining us. [now 50 v 113] Surprised any still feel we should have kept him.

I wasn't trying to argue with you. Just discuss what options are/were avaliable. Yes, i wanted the club to buy a striker, but more importantly I didnt not want them to but someone because they were presuurised. We are all quick to get on the back of the club for not buying a striker but we have no idea what efforts they made in this department. If rumours are to be believed they were interested in several players. I would guess that none came to fruition mainly due to finacial reasons. But what does signing a striker have to do with the fact that we were right to sell Ferguson

I did say that they would discuss the possible signing with the manager from this they would gauge the need for him, why the manager thinks he is a good buy and how much he is worth. But at the end of the day only one person typicaly in this country selects the team and he has to be the one to choose the players to buy. When a board select the manager they should select someone who will be sensible on the player purchasing front. Therfore the board is not to blame for signing bad players, it is to be blamed for employing a manager who wants those players.

Souness was responsible for De Pedro and all the players he bought, as is Hughes for the players he brings in. A club cannot going round second guessing its manager. It asks the manager who they would like and then negotaite for that player. They are respossible for the wages and trasnfer fees of the players but only, I would hope, after discussion with the manager and his telling them how important/good a player the person is. In the past we have bough duds and possibly overpaid, but I think we have learnt now and are being more cautious. Another reason why we have not perhaps got the players in now. de Pedro was a waste of money, but for all I criticise Ferguson, I do not feel he was a waste of money, yes we may have lost money on him but he was not a waste of money. He has played virually every game he was fit for and was normally one of the better players on the pitch.

The main reason is not signing a player for signing a players sake! Sure it would have made us all alot happier if we had got a striker, but if hughes had rushed and gone for somebody quickly and he failed you would be even more unhappy because we have lost the money! Football is swings & roundabouts, Good things come to those who..........WAIT! Yes, Wait until we are relegated then try for good things like promotion. So we should have just bought any old player like Bothroyd or De Pedro. Buying a good striker is not like going to you local supermarket to buy a litre of milk. yes we could have done with a striker and another midfielder and a LB etc but I am sure we tried to find some of enough talent to improve our squad, at a price and wage we could afford and who would realistically want to join us. We wuld be even worse of now if we had bough a spur of the moment player just to keep people happy and still got relegated.

So what he doing at Rangers You have the player you wanted now. Ferguson underpermormed for us. Yes he had good games, yes he may not have been surrounded by the best players in the world but I really dont think there is any point at you making remarks that make even my ranting seem sensible. Just face facts, you desperatly needed him back as your midfield did not have the required quality and you were worried that Celtic would be pulling away from you.

Bobby G said on the previous page that the Independent was reporting the same story.

And possibly the fact he, according to the LET, refused to play v Colchester.

Sorry, I dont come her to provoke people into debates/arguments/quarrels. So I wont go away if people ignore me. I shall still state and jsutify my opinions. I come here to discuss Blackburn Rovers. I come to put my point across and justify my opinions. I am just trying to debate why I feel the player who according to todays LET refused to play v colchester is better out the door and not playing for us anymore.

He has said that Alex Rae will be as he doesnt want it.

Well i think I may be forced to leave and find a forum that allows debate and discussion without being threatened by a Mod. i know you will all be then happy as no-one will then try and stiumlate debate Have I broken any forums rules? If so plese inform me so I can prevent it from occuring again. Becuase I am not a respected member of this forum I cannot argue with those that are? I see it one way, other see it another and both sides try convince the other they are right. I think that is the great thing about the democracy we live in I have enjoyed my discussions here and do value and respect everyones opinion and hope that it can continue.

Other teams had more money or else signed dross. And yes, i do like arguments, even playing devils advocate. I like structured agruments, not just, i am right, you are wrong (although I am right and uou are wrong :-) ). i love a good debate. i am not a sheep who will just accept whatever I am told and never accept anything at face value. So what srikers should we have bought/loaned then oh great one, since I am sure ou feel you could do a better job than the board.

It is not the boards fault they failled. You would not have been sacked at work if you worked in a purchasing department and told to buy a new new chair that was better than you current chairs but half the price as long as you could show that the chair the desired does not exist. We tend to blame the board for things that are not in their control. And the avaliabilty of strikers is not in theri control. Simple fact.

I think you'll probaly find that the great alimighy and wonderful Barry goets nearly as many yellows and more reds than Savage. Barry was ok. Never as good as the amount we paid for him though. Really annoy me when fans think he was a Gerrard/Lampard and that he was v amazing Why sell? Becuase he didnt care about Rovers and wanted out, why keep? Get what we can now. We would only have got the same this summer. Finally, yes, when Barry played bdly you knew he could do better. Thing is he never played for us at his best. I allways felt he could do better. Now I know why, he was allways a Ranger, never a Rover.

No, he won't. Savage has neither the talent nor the discipline to do the job that Ferguson was capable of doing. We will now have to rely on the increasingly erratic Tugay to pass the ball from A to B (maybe). I didnt mean Savage as a direct replacment, more of a replacements as heart of the midfiled. Have to rely on Thommo or Tugs for creativity. You also hit the nail squarely on the hear about Ferguson. As you said Same he didnt show his capability more. Never lived up to his potential or our expectations. Also never undersatnd this complaint abuot Savage and discipline when Ferguson got as many reds for us as Savage has done in his entire career

Fergsuon was not such a great player that his loss will doom us to relegation, Asgood as he may have been, his happiness at rejoining rangers shows that his eart would not have been in preventing us from being relegated. And for the upteenth time. WE DO NOT KNOW IF THE CLUB TRIED TO SIGN A STIKER OR NOT. WE DO NOT KNOW IF THEY HAD BIDS THAT FAILED. remember that we are a club that traditionally keep all transfer news quiet untill the deal is done, unless the other club make it public.

A lot o fpeople, myslef included, will argue about Ferguson imporatnce on the pitch. Savage will replace him. Finally what more could Williams have done, he held out for as long as possible to get as much as he could for a player. This player has made it abundtantly clear that he wanted to play for Rangers and no other club. His comments since re-signing to them has made it clear that he was proabably never fully comitted to the Rovers acuse and would have been at all comiited if we kept him to the summer. Ferguson wanted out. Even if we did keep him to the summer, paying him a fortune in wages for a non comiited player, Rangers still would not have upped the offer. The had us my the proverbials and there was very little we could do about it.

I am not saying he wouldnt sign for us, or for Celtic. Both are possibilities, Just dont agree on the reasoning for why he would not sign for Celtic but might sign for us. I never said the premiership wasnt a chalenge. Just that we did not have big matches. A big match is a euopean tie, a local Derby, a match in the latter stages of a cup run. A match were you feel the extra pressure, the challenge. How many big matches do we play a season? How many have we played this season?

Thankyou, You have just proved my point. So why would he sign for us then? A premiersip match is not a big game.

But why not? As I said, he is as likely to play for them as he is for us. A crap as the SPL is, the lure of European football is HUGE. I think people not use to European footbal forget that fact.

Fully agree. What strikers were there that moved? Which ones woudl have joined us? We should only get players that will improve the squad, not dross like Souness would have felt pressured into buying due to fans pressure (i.e we must have a left winger, ok, here is De Pedro)

You contradict yourself. You say he would sign for us but wont play at a lower level with a club who will get Champions League football. As much as I may love Rovers. Celtic are not at a lower level than us. We are very unlikely to get European football and Celtic should have good UEFA cup runs. That offset with the Premiership V SPL would say that we are levellish in terms of attractiveness.