Just now, alex l said:

Sods law the club shop have run out of 's'

😂 like it !

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

thought we have very little money but have 500k for second left back? 

So clearly we do have money but Mowbray won't move on from Obafemi being his main choice. Probably get him on loan deal whilst we sign Edun for 500k

You going to admitted its Mowbray inability to move on from targets that will cost us signing a permanent striker this window?

Hang on ..bloody window not shut yet Chaddy.

2 minutes ago, Tom said:

Interesting signing this lad can’t say I know too much about him but a decent cheap gamble maybe  (full name Adetayo Oluwatosin Olusegun Adio Aduramigba Iretioluwa Edun) 

 

Get that on your shirt!

11 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

The fact crowds hardly moved (apart from Oxford) when we spent months at the top of League 1 says not.

Rovers fans won’t be paying £40 in big numbers even if we are doing well this season. And as STs make up the vast majority of our support and will be off sale in a week, the fact we’ve scrapped 6,000 sales says whatever happens crowds will be low this term. 

But where you are correct is that offers on tickets don’t really have much of an impact if the team is plodding about. Though Wigan before Christmas the other year when Dack got injured saw a hefty bump in the crowd when they were reduced.

Back in the day, a match ticket/buy on the gate was reasonably priced, so if we were on a good run dad, lad, a load of pals would be down to Ewood on a Saturday bumping the gate. At £38-42 in the JW, that ain’t happening.

 

But Matty ..the bar setting  of success for fans from Lancaster ..the Fylde coast  and other surrounding areas  outside Blackburn which boosted our PL attendances  etc .etc.. wasnt set at success at League One ..they were used to PL . The coaches from far and wide around Lancashire are now non existent. They used to fill the land in front of the Fox n Hounds pub.They aint interested in League One success.

You ll only see a filling (not even a full house ..no where near ) at Ewood if we re coasting to Promotion or back in the so called Promised Land ..regardless of price.

As for Tomphil ..i get where you are coming from regarding keeping the base of Rovers ST holders ..but when you re down to a base of 10000 ? there are lots of factors that can influence that figure give or take 1000..regardless of price...which makes a big impression on such a small ST fan base.

As daft as it is (i know it is !) but if Rovers put on a free bar or 2 quid a pint for two hours before the game serving decent ale i still maintain that that would have more upward influence on attendance figures  than a cheaper ticket. Its a sad indictment of these times but no different what Stanley are doing by reducing beer prices to  2 quid a pint after the game if they win ..  i know living in the Accy area what a draw to the game that is   ! It really does drag people in ..

15 minutes ago, tomphil said:

The comparisons with the early 80's are the good old strawman i'm afraid.

The times are very different as is the economy in this country despite the hysterics that brings in the media. Top flight games were played in front of 10/11k sometimes back then and many bigger town and city clubs in the championship struggled for fans.

You are right on the PL stuff in some cases but yet again that applies to most clubs of a similar ilk to us. What we are on about here is hardcore fans who've stuck around since the Prem days getting priced out or just fed up.

It's a concern it needs addressing but constantly putting prices up won't do it, neither will going nowhere on the pitch either obviously.

Iv'e said it a thousand times after doing some research Waggots mantra is squeeze what you have till it pops. Well it's popping now.

His speciallity and skill set is downgrading, he's right on track with that. Asking fans to pay 7 quid more for the same seat in the space of a couple of week is quite frankly bollocks.

I think you will find that average First Division attendances were greater than 10/11 thousand Tomphil.

As for different economies yes but i would say it was far cheaper an economic comparision to watch football in the eighties and also lot less Saturday afternoon distractions ..i mean ..the bloody pubs shut at 3pm..everyone home for World Of Sport or watch Rovers ? 😆

..yet we only had 7000 on.

Unfortunately its success over price for getting substantial rises in attendances IMO.

9 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

It's not the price as in I can't find 32, it's more that I think it's too high and won't pay it.  People in Blackburn don't part with coin so easily. Maggot hasn't hasn't clue.

As i said Sparks ..a reduction will bring in a few but lets not think that fans will come back in thousands with a price reduction ..as you say people from Blackburn dont part with coin easily ..even at reduced prices they will also want something worthwhile for parting with it...SUCCESS. ..again football cycles.

2 hours ago, tomphil said:

I thought you were on about the Boro away price.

For me i think it's how it's pitched for home games it worked when Allardyce was here but that was Prem football. Right now although 20 quid would be cheap these days the supply still far outweighs the demand at Ewood.

It's all about how it's percieved though, perception is a massive part of marketing but often gets overlooked.  £20 to come a support a bright new young side stacked with academy graduates. The club in a new era taking a bold new direction with a real plan to re-ignite the club and push it forwards.

or 

£25-£38 pounds to watch the same manager trying the same things with a bunch or raw kids and loans.

Selling anything is a tough gig in Blackburn so it has to go hand in hand with belief and ambition more than anything. Me personally i'd just price it at 25-30 max in all but the premium central area in the JW upper. Leave it all alone then everyone knows where they stand and don't feel angry and ripped off when they hike it up just to fleece big away followings.

That then leaves scope to do the odd cheap ticket offer and maybe one or two top end Cat A fixtures if needed.  West Brom brought around 2.5k and the home sections were agaian under 10k with maybe a good few hundred of those complimentary and schools tickets and the like. I'm not having it for one minute there wouldn't have been another 1 or 2 thousand on had the Swansea prices been left alone.

Again what they are doing is counter productive and just designed to squeeze those who can be bothered or can afford it.

So it's perceived badly.

Hmmm ..price isnt everything but of course a reduction would bring in a 'few'.

If it was all down to price then in the early eighties we should have seen greater gates than an average of between 6-9 thousand. Add in there were no such thing as illegal streams etc etc  for a cheap afternoon on the footie we didnt do very well.

Unfortunately we had a whole generation brought up on the PL years and bought into that but now dont buy into the scratting around the Championship like we are now. Football cycles im afraid ..

Sorry this was for Wheelton Blue not you  Tomphil .

8 minutes ago, riverholmes said:

I just wanted to highlight this moment, seconds before the Forest player cuts in and scored in the last match. Brereton, as the 'right forward' in the team, has got back to defend and spots the opposition wing threat in the box. He points this out to Carter, whilst holding his position. Meanwhile, Buckley (I think) has got back to the 'D' and lets a Forest midfielder drift past him into the box. The result is that the defence get outnumbered as the shot comes in. Ultimately, because it was a shot, rather than a cross, the overload in the box doesn't contribute to the goal, which is a good long range strike.

Buckely, clearly, has made an individual mistake to not track the runner, if it is him, but Brereton holding his position as the defence gets outnumbered is more than an individual issue. It's a question of the defensive role of the wide forwards in the team. At this moment, he seems to believe his role is to provide a counter-attack outlet by not marking in the box and, instead, to screen the edge of the box. In other words, he's thinking like a striker or a No.10.

It's possible that Mowbray wants this to play a high risk/reward game. Having attackers stay forward has the benefit of occupying defenders and enabling a counter-attack. However, it means that the three central midfielders need to play a much more disciplined role in protecting the defence. Otherwise, we get outnumbered time and again, especially, at full back. It's a relatively simple tactical issue that still hasn't been resolved despite weekly cases of being exposed.

 

Eh ...?? ..its friday f*cking night lad ..hic hic..

Sons ST Card arrived today.

...but ..the flip side is ..Does anyone actually buy a programme  ..??? ..ive not seen anyone in recent times in the ground actually perusing  a programme. If no ones buying you can see why the club aint bothering anymore.  (And i work in the print industry !)

1 minute ago, K-Hod said:

Aye, when I had hair, he was my go to guy!

😂

32 minutes ago, m1st said:

The Millwall [A] game that I remember best was in, I think, the 76/77 season.

I'd gone down to London with a fellow season ticket-holder; a mutual colleague of Leonard Venkhater's and mine.

We were spending the weekend with my mate's eldest brother who lived south east of Millwall, and was as passionate about Rovers as we were - his office wall was festooned with press cuttings, team photographs, etc.

Anyway, we drove as near to the ground as possible; parked up and remained as schtum as possible; it was well before EastEnders, so we couldn't 'do the accent' very well.

Until we got back into the elder brother's VW after the game, locked the doors and set off back home with a 0-1 win in our pockets and then cheered!

We were on an un-segregated terrace - they were, in those days - and none of the home fans could tell from our behaviour or, from our blue and white scarves, either before we scored - just after half an hour, from memory - or for the remainder of the game, which team we followed.

The following Monday, BBC1's Panorama did a feature on 'Football Hooliganism', majoring on the match we'd been at. Mainly because of Millwall's fans' reputations.

After that trip down memory lane, I'm hoping for a similar result tomorrow with our 'back five' holding out for a similar result with 45 years ago. 🤞🤞🤞

13 minutes in when Rovers arrive ...the lad that got attacked is from Accy ....Clive ..a top bloke.

1 minute ago, BRFC4EVA said:

At least with all the players we've lost the team picks itself

The only 2 real questions are Buckley or Davenport and whether Armstrong gets risked or if it will be SG through the middle.

Although with TM at the wheel it will be interesting what other nonsense he can possibly pull off

Buckley and SG for me ..lets start with what we ll be left with after AA leaves and Davenport is injured ..again.. a lil continuity if nothing else.

20 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

See you in there, mine’s a Heineken 😏

JohnGo has already paid you one on !😁

7 minutes ago, JHRover said:

All just cheap gimmicks in a late and desperate attempt to improve morale around the place and shift a few tickets to get away from league embarrassing levels.

Mowbray talking and talking about wanting at least 5 loans in - nobody here

Inviting popular ex player back.

Letter 'from' the owners pledging their support and 'intention' to turn up and see a game at some point.

Some of us can see through it all. Waggott's panicking. 

Come on JH ..no different than any other club up and down the land inviting back ex-players .

I'd hardly go to say its to raise morale and shift a few tickets ? really ?  ..if its before the game most fans will still be in EWC or on the concourse with ticket in hand...so lets not get  all melodramatic because an ex-player is invited back...pleaseee.

Derby sign up three trialists.

Ryan Allsop Curtis Davies Richard Stearman.

I stopped reading when i saw the Coat of Arms ..

43 minutes ago, rigger said:

Times they are a changing. When I was an apprentice (in industry ) all you had to worry about was getting your bollocks blackened.

Had mine done with Cherry Blossom Black ..still not fully come out 37 years later !

1 minute ago, davulsukur said:

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19491861.southampton-step-armstrong-interest-ings-sale/

LET reckons Ings went for £30m. If that's the case then they best be putting up more than the paltry £8m they bid before.

6M to LFC though ..20%  Sell on clause. 

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

very surprised he wasn't appointed as the club new head of recruitment given his experience with scouting and recruitment. 

But in the 18 months he was appointed we have only signed 2 players from European football. 

So is there much point having a head of recruitment and Head of European scouting? 

Well it would be worth having IF we had any money to buy ! 

You know yourself ..there s bargains to be had overseas.

4 hours ago, roversfan2001 said:

I assume they're finally sorting out removing the hold from seats reserved for people who haven't renewed in two years.

STs can now be bought online.

1 minute ago, TheKitGuy said:

My apologies I must of missed the ticket info, however the point so stands regarding Millwall

No you are right TKG! ..the Morecambe tickets are not that obvious on the site!

I only found them via the ST renewal site..which isnt accepting any ST purchases at all at the moment.

22 minutes ago, TheKitGuy said:

Anyone have any idea what's going on ticket wise at the club?? No info regarding the Millwall game, Millwall have ticket info for their fans in their website but obviously rovers miles off it and haven't released any info yet it's less than 2 weeks away? 

 

Same goes for the Morecambe match.. no ticket info for that game either which is now less than a week away, I've never known such Backward club.

You can buy tickets for Morecambe game via the Rovers website as well as Swansea walk ons.

Morecambe game prices for BBE..

Looks like only BBE and Jack Walker stands open for Home fans.

1 minute ago, oldjamfan1 said:

Most of the comments are pretty fair really. You’ll always get the odd knobhead.

 

Yes they are ..

Ewood.. Fat lady to sing soon? - (uptheclarets.com)

Our 'friends ' down the M65 take on things all Ewood