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  1. Just now, JacknOry said:

    Its crazy really when you think about transfer fees. Neymar went for 200 million. Bale what 5 years ago was 100 mil - so thats doubled in that time. In ten years time we could be talking about near billion players.  

    Shearer at the time even with my blue and white spectacles was the best striker n the world. Batistuta was there but not in same class in my opinion. 

    I totally agree in his time at rovers there was not a finer cf on the planet 

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  2. 17 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

    For mine we HAVE to give Brereton a season in his preferred position.

    Gallagher is another central striker - we'd have 3 (4 really as Armstrong is much better playing in the middle too) queuing up for one position. Neither Gallagher or Brereton would be effective out wide. I also wasn't very impressed with him last time he was here to be honest.

    Which is where we really need to be investing if Mowbray is buying attacking players. Rothwell and Chapman aren't enough.

    Tbh I think the problem we have is Dack is best off a striker  there's no way we should consider dropping Dack or shifting him so we are struggling to get Brereton or arma into there best positions 

  3. 6 minutes ago, m1st said:

    Joe Hart these days reminds me of Robert Green although, writing from memory, Green never 'kept' for a Premier League-winning side.

    I can't think of any reason why Rovers should pay anything for, and to, someone who seems increasingly like yesterday's man. We're surely not going for a 'marquee' signing just because he once, several years ago, used to be a good 'un. Are we?

    Did he not get a winners medal at Chelsea

  4. Just now, Miller11 said:

    It’s not that it’s a fantastic model, it’s just the nature of things.

    I think everybody accepts that Dack has a price? If a bid of £15 million came in from a prem club I’m sure we’d all be a bit gutted, but see it as him moving on like players do. 

    If we then failed to reinvest that money, or wasted half of it on another Brereton, people wouldn’t be happy, but that’s a different matter. 

    Look at some of the players we’ve lost in recent times - the argument isn’t that we sold them...

    Cairney - went too cheap

    Hanley and Duffy - weren’t replaced

    King/Mahoney - weren’t tied up so we lost out

    Raya - sold too soon

    For a time we had a squad with virtually zero re-sale value. Now we have some players who would actually command a fee, and eventually they will go.

     

     

    King and mahoney were not tied up but also not great for us the raya sale whilst I agree I'd have kept him he was widely blasted on this very site

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  5. Just now, JHRover said:

    Spot on. Notice when we sold our best players they went to rival clubs, seemingly shoved out the back door (Cairney) or hawked around to try and attract bidders.

    Nobody at this level can resist selling players to the Premier League. Different story with what we did. 

    Brentford have come on leaps and bounds as a club, have a new stadium nearly ready and are in good shape. Put their money to good use.

    Yet they bought a keeper who if we are not changing the narrative was widely derided on this message board

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  6. Just now, Miller11 said:

    Let’s use Konsa as an example. 

    Bought 12 months ago from League one for 2.5 million, played a season with them and sold to a Prem team for 12 million. They have already made signings in that position and could well make more.

    No fan of any club wants to see their best players sold, but when a team from a higher division comes in and gives you a big profit, you accept it as inevitable.

    If we were to sell Dack, Lenihan it Travis, I’d have very little faith in us bringing in anyone remotely near the same level... fucking hell, I’d be pretty amazed if we replaced them with players who even play in the same position.

    Getting raided for your better players by top flight teams shows you are doing something right... it’s the nature of transfers. We are lightyears behind Brentford in terms of identifying players and recruiting them. Barring Dack, and to a much lesser degree Armstrong and Rothwell, the only players we have of any real value are academy products.

    Ah so when other teams do it it's a fantastic model let's take Dack for example we bought him for 750k if we were to sell him now how much do you think he would go for how is selling your best players used as a pro for some yet a negative for others at least be consistent in the criticism. 

  7. 37 minutes ago, Mercer said:

    To some on here, including yourself, think clearly Brereton is the elephant in the room.

    If you repeatedly went to see the doctor with a cough and he repeatedly told you to stop smoking, what would you do, turn round to him and say you've told me that 25 times already!

    No but in that situation the Dr is an expert giving you solicited advice in this situation your opinion is coming unsolicited everyday and while your completely entitled to have it your no more an expert than anyone else. 

    We get it YOU don't like Mowbray YOU think Brereton was a bad deal YOU don't want Gally I however liked him during his last spell here I'd quite like to sign him am I right I don't know time will tell but you don't either. 

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  8. 3 hours ago, The Axe said:

    Give me proof and I'll believe you but try as I might I can't recall public criticism. Can remember Dally Duncan refusing to utter a word against Dougan after the Cup Final. Also know Butcher drove Jim Smith wild but he never said a word that could be reported.

    But he is still hurt at remarks made by manager Graeme Souness. The Blackburn boss expressed his frustration last season at Dunn's lifestyle and the injuries he picked up, saying: "Maybe he has taken his eye off the ball."

  9. 8 hours ago, Stuart said:

    It really isn’t.

    Rodwell was PL standard. Johnson is Championship.

    Conway has been replaced by an older (!) player.

    Reed hasn’t been replaced.

    Downing hasn’t been replaced.

    Our goalkeeper (at best) is unsettled or (at worst) leaving.

    There is still time but we are marginally weaker. However, the fact that we have brought in two free transfers despite lots of talk does not bode well.

    Downing was not here half the season and really was not up to much when did he become a worldie 

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  10. 3 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

    Therein lies the heart of the problem.

    Mowbray demonstrated last season he doesn-t have the ability, nouse or ambition to take us forward and is starting to wreak damage it may take years to recover from if we are relegated again.

    We may never recover if the owners eventually get frustrated wirh the lack of progress/regression and take their bat and ball home. with them.

    What even remotely suggests we will be in a relegation fight. 

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  11. Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

    New keeper

    Bennett Mulgrew Lenihan Williams

    Downing Evans Johnson Smallwood

    Dack

    Graham

    Not exactly brimming with youthful promise and enthusiasm is it?

    New keeper

    Nyambe lenihan mcglorie bell

    Chapman Buckley Travis Armstrong 

                        Dack 

                     Gallagher 

    Not exactly old is it. If we are playing the what if game. 

    But neither of the teams named will be playing it will be a mix but don't let that get in the way of a moan. 

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  12. 26 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

    Cannot but help think Mowbray is storing up trouble for the club in the years ahead. Johnson is 32, Downing 34/35, both past their sell-by date, Darlow at 28 is not old for a keeper but not young either.  Ageing squads suddenly need wholesale restructuring as these players lose it,  and we have enough older players on the books already. I hope we have some very good youth players coming through, because these old legs will need the youngsters to do the running for them. Ideally, we should be signing quality players in the 24-26 age bracket, people like Harrison Reed for instance. 

    By the time the trouble you speak of is here players like Buckley and Butterworth and such should be ready if they meet the potential seen in them so a few old heads to guide our youngish squad should be fine. 

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  13. Just now, Bbrovers2288 said:

    I must ask though, he may have good passing ability but what would we use it for? Danny Graham to run in behind? Not going to happen. In my opinion we need a better engine in there, a leader and somebody who can chip in with a few goals, long range efforts and runs into the box. Celtic passed up on the boy David turnbull from Motherwell due to a knee knock that’s going to take 6 months to heal, but he could well be this years mcginn and has everything we need. I’d take a punt on him rather than Adam. Failing that iv always thought cattermole would get us ticking. Him and Travis could be usefull 

    I'd maybe have a look at Turnbull even with the injury a move to Norwich fell through for him tho so think somethings up there. 

    Cattermole is on about 50k a week at Sunderland is he not. 

  14. 5 hours ago, Mercer said:

    FFS, Mowbray committed the club to £7million+ on, IMO ,  a dud.  That's approaching 70% of the club's annual turnover. 

    If you don't think that's one big bullock dropped then go and squander 70% of your annual take home pay on birds, booze or whatever and see what your missus has to say!

    Has he tho it's up to 7m with targets met if he reaches the targets he will have been worth 7m no? 

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