Today is a bad day for music.

Simply Red are to split up.

Things could be worse, the dingles have decided to employ "Chico" at their next home game

I'll see your Chico and raise you with Adam Hosker.

Whats next at Ewood, the Cheeky Girls ???

Today was Dunnys best performance since rejoining us.. IMHO its his first real full 90 minutes without tiring at any stage.

His performances have been slowly getting better as time went on. Still a fair way to go, but he's nearly the Dunn we had before Souness/Bruce/Injuries ruined him.

Bloody hell, talk about dredging up topics from the deep..

Tickets FROM 45 pounds

(also....a bit too rude to post a link on here, but check out boro pat on Youtube....a middlesbrough version of Postman Pat. Yes it`s been done before but some of it is quite funny )

Thats surely worth a 7 day ban....

www.boropat.com

Bloody ace, but nowhere near work safe. Anywhere with mobile phone versions ?

Not intentional that Phil. You know me I cannot always tell the Woods from the trees.

Are you saying the woodlands are showing live away games... 7 day posting ban it is then

We havent actually stated a position on the dodgy sky stuff yet. Blatant advertising isnt tolerated mind. its a difficult one is that, as its certainly something I take advantage of from time to time.

I think they should hang up their drumsticks for three consecutive games next season.

You may be scared, but thats exactly the comment I made to Billy and (i think) Drummer Boy when talking to them in Amsterdam before the Feyenoord game.

same thoughts exactly- i really cant understand how they can sing that- i know a lot of the the Mancs don't like england but that song

is just wrong from an english club.

as for the drummers, I agree the personal insults are a bit harsh, but my god they are embarrassing.

I would rather have the away fans singing "shall we sing a song for you" than have the drummers banging "du-dududu"-

what is worse is MOTD & Sky always focus in on them.

whats the bet that at the first home game, as the back of the blackburn end start "santa cruz is coming to town" we get the usual

"bang bang bang- saaaaannnntttaaa cruzzzz"?

Your probably right.

Theres a fans forum meeting next week, and the DRUMMERS are keen to hear any alternative suggestions, and meet with people who can put something forward.

Come on down Blue Phil

--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ste B @ Aug 5 2007, 13:23 ) 534483[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Bill is on the fans forum, and the chairman used to be a Blackburn end drummer.

Well , there we have it . It's what I've suspected for a long time . Just shows how representative these committees are ...

Theres also at least 2 who are fervently anti-drummer. (Me being one of them).

Rather than sit about bitching about atmosphere, why not suggest something and we can bring it forward ?

I believe they are represented on the Fans Forum and it seems opinion is strong but far from unanimous. To be honest, I'm glad I'm not too near to them myself due to the apparent "just bang it hard" tendency.

Bill is on the fans forum, and the chairman used to be a Blackburn end drummer. Then again, i'm incredibly against the

They are more than happy to talk about ways to improve the atmosphere, whether or not that involves the drummer. Theres a lot of talk on the internet, but i'm sure if people have genuine ideas to improve atmosphere at Ewood, then we can set something up.

I saw them live a couple of weeks ago at the Royal Northern College of Music in Manchester. They were great, and People Help the People has to be my single of the year so far.

Not got the album yet, but if that songs anything to go by it'll be a cracker

Also enjoying Maximo Park, Reverend and the Makers and Biffy Clyros latest efforts

Get a grip, he was only disagreeing with you. No need to be abusive.

He's been banned more times than he's had a wash. Obviously Axesfirsttouch/WakefieldRawks cant take people disagreeing with him.

Bloody made up language. They only speak it when the English are around.

Oh and Higgins to win it.

Almost a good call, looks like Selby could be pulling off a massive comeback. Going to be a late night.

MOTLEY CRUE MEN JUNE 12 THE OH YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

I THINK IT IT WILL BE THE TWENTIETH TIME IVE SEEN GODS BAND !!!!!!

Seeing them at Download the week before. I think they are headlining the second stage while Emo Kids My Chemical Romance get bottled on the main stage.

Quite like the Pearl Jam cover of the Who's Love Reign on mr thats going around at the moment

Vinjay has sent the following in to brfcs after meeting with John Williams yesterday

Could you please tell the board members that I've met Williams? You

said I lacked credibility and you were right because I was ducking the

meeting initally....though I was considering other options at least. However

I think the other members have the right to know that I've spoken to him.

Maybe you should bring me back though that might be asking too much.

I've done what you wanted. I don't think one small favour informing members

of the meeting is asking too much. Feel free to post my e-mail address on

the board if anyone wishes to discuss confidential details with me.

vinjay@hotmail.co.uk if anybody really is interested.

Vinjay has pulled himself off the internet.

Are you going to question Williams on whether his supposed good friend

Jack

Walker would have wanted a manager/star player procliaming an inter3st

in

joining our arch rivals? Yes the same club who he refused to let

Shearer

join despite their bid being larger.

I see people have been asking about Vinjay's BRFC. Well I was the one

who

removed it. I opened it because many people on the boards said they

would

like to see me return. In that case I felt they would probably register

for

my site. As they didn't I felt it was a waste of time to keep it

open...though it still recieved more posts than the BRISA forum has in

months. Not that it cost anything but I have higher standards. I don't

accept mediocrity for eiether my website or my football club. I don't

suffer

from an inferiority complex. I don't care about what people think of

the

town but I will not accept such a complex being transferred over to the

club.

10 years of lies

The latest is that Williams is on course to enter the guinness book of

world

records for amount of lies told in print. If you expect me to believe

any of

that rubbish in his interview it's not going to happen. Virtually

everything

he said in those articles was a lie. Not just a lie but he's using lies

in

Jack Walker's name. You can't see what he's doing. He might think that

I'm

going to be silenced with bribes. That's all the season ticket scheme

is. Do

you think Williams has done it out of generosity? No he's done it to

strengthen his own comfort zone. There's no proof that the idea was

his. He

could easily have been tipped off that other clubs were planning cuts.

Everton have done the same but their fans can see what it is. They

protested

about lack of investment (their owners don't quite have 800 million

eiether)

and a few price cuts won't silence them. If Williams think price cuts

are

going to make up for what he's done to this great football club he

isn't

going to put me on a guilttrip. That's what it is. He's going to use it

as a

guilttrip agansit you every time someone criticised him. He's done it

to use

it against you not through the goodness of his heart!

Supposedly Jack Walker didn't understand inflation. Do you honestly

believe

Jack couldn't see the rates of inflation in transfer fees/wages? I

thought

Williams couldn't stoop any lower but he's putting false words in

Jack's

mouth. Why aren't you doing something about this? Jack promised that

funding

wouldn't decline and he was telling the truth. Funding has been reduced

and

Jack could have kept up with the inflation rates. Jack Walker didn't

make

promises he couldn't keep. Williams is using Jack for his own means.

He's

fooling all of you.

"The worst moment for me was unquestionably Jack Walker's death.

Firstly,

I'd lost a close colleague and a friend. And secondly I was also

extremely

worried we wouldn't recover as a club from that position."

He has some nerve to claim Jack was his friend. As for being worried

that

the cliub wouldn't recover?

http://archive.lancashireeveningtelegraph..../19/717845.html

You can't deny the lies. I don't care if it was Egerton-Vernon who said

it

Williams should have been honest with the fans. Then again why change

the

habits of a lifetime? Williams has successfully reinstalled a 80's

mentality

at this club. That's why all of you puit this club down at every

opportunity. You never used to do that. Jack Walker wouldn't have

wanted

that.

"I didn't foresee that happening, but Jack was very perceptive and he

did

tell me when I first came to the club that he felt it was an issue."

Yes but not perceptive enough to see the rates of inflation in transfer

fees? Williams didn't forsee a decline in ticket sales. That is an

admittance of incompetence and a complete faiiure as to why it

happened.

It's because of the nice release clause he put in Duff's contract. He

lied

about that. He lied about Bellamy's release clause. He's lieing when he

says

the club will do their best to hold onto top players. What's Pedersen's

release clause? Bentley's? Reid's?

"To be competitive on the pitch, and by that he meant qualifying for

Europe

and the top six."

Jack wanted to challenge for more than the top 6. He's lieing to you

all

again. Do you want me to bring up the quotes? Jack said the cluh would

always be challenging for top honours. He said money would not deline

which

it has. Williams must be laughing at how he's getting away with this.

"Brad Friedel. He's been absolutely superb."

Just about the only thing he said that I agree with.

"I think the one that got away was the one that we had - Craig

Bellamy!"

Yes and why was it he got away? Was it because of a secret deal with

Liverpool to take efefect after the early bird scheme was utilised to

full

effect? I was called a liar when I sqaid Bellmay had a release in his

contract. I wasn't lieing. Yet I still got abused for proving that I

was

right. Williams got away with it as usual. Andy Nield should have done

his

job and taken Williams to task. He's giving Williams an easy ride in

that

interview. He has Lee Grooby kissing up to him every day. He used to

have

his own views about the direction of the club. He's sold those views

and

become nothing more than a corporate puppet and a yes man to Williams.

As for part 2 of the interview Williams said he wonders what Jack would

have

wanted when making decisions. Did Jack want top players being sold

because

of release clauses. Did Jack want the manager constantly linked with a

club

he hated? Did Jack want mid table mediocrity season afater season? Did

Jack

want a reduction in transfer funds. Did Jack want his family to sit at

home

spending his money and not giving a damn about his football club?

As for all you people saying nobody (putting the club down as usual)

would

be interested in the club...well seeing as you believe Willaims lies

you

will probably believe that the club has had takeover offers? Do I

believe

it? I'm sceptical about whether there was interest and the size of the

offers. You can't blame me for being sceptical of whether Williams is

telling the truth. If true then it offers me the only encouragement I

can

take from the current situation. The last glimmering hope that someone

might

takeover the club and put an end to Williams reign of medicocrity. Well

97-98 was a great year.

rog of the rover-Top bloke, met him once in the club shop ages and ages

ago,

he said hello and was generally quite pleasant.

Quote from "thenodrog"

"From what I remember of last seasons column Rev's only crime was to

criticise the club publically just as last years 'hearts and minds'

campaign

to attract more fans was initiated. Not the best timing and from what I

can

gather a pressured John Williams went absolutely apeshit with the

editor.

You dont need to be Einstein to work out how much the LET needs to

foster

good relations with the Rovers (its about the only reason that I have

it

delivered), so it seems Rev was the sacrificial lamb."

Quote by "Anti Euro Smiths Fan"

"Could this possibly indicate a different side to Mr Williams'

character to

the one which has hitherto been praised to the rafters by other board

members?

"Is it possible that our smooth talking moustachioed Chief Executive

has a

"friendly face" in public - (The good-natured garrulous fellow that Den

encountered when he was invited into his office for tea and biscuits

and a

cosy chat for an hour and a half) - But this amiable side to his

character

can be offset by irascible short-tempered outbursts, as Thenodrog has

alluded to."

It seems to me that the criticisms Revidge had were perfectly

legitimate

viewpoints that he held about the club.

"For Mr Williams to allegedly "Go apes*it with the LET editor"

indicates an

unhealthy sensitivity to CRITICISM ON HIS PART."

His public act is all an image. He's fooling you all.

Would Jack Walker have wanted 2 key figures at the club proclimaing an

interest in joining Man Utd? As for that erformance on Saturday Hughes

showed the complete diregard he has for Jack afterwards. Not one

mention of

Jack or an apology from the arrogant one. You think he's self confident

and

reserved? No he's the very picture of arrogance. What we saw on

Saturday was

a Blackburn Rovers team and manager demonstrate that they couldn't care

less

about everything Jack Walker did for this football club.

Eiether you do something about this or I'll take the apprporriate (and

legal) measures in the next few weeks. Eiether that or in the next

couple of

weeks a new owner emerges and Williams dosen't want that. He only cares

about preserving his own position. It's all a lie. A complete and total

lie.

It has reached the point for Williams to resign before it's too late.

Whats happened to VinjaysBRFC !!

Has John Williams sent the heavy mob round to shut it down ?

The Count Down Has Begun - click

Well, not for the game but for the trailer still, it will be interesting to see what next gen has in store for this supurb series

I wonder where this will be set - Europe perhaps, or maybe another GTA London ?

4-3 Spurs, bad for us but great nonetheless

Got a funny feeling his website is most definitely not going to be work-safe.

Wonder if thats why Lee has pulled the links from the official site

Or is John Williams running scared ?

I've just put him on the list of banned words.

His latest post accuses BRISA of trying to sabotage his messageboard.

The guy is an obvious fruitloop. Have you seen his chants section where he's just replaced every instance of Burnley with ManU.

Putting aside the bad games for a moment, a game I strongly recommend everyone getting is Crackdown. Absolutely superb, I've been playing it constantly over the weekend.

grrr... waiting till the bloody thing comes out. Played a lot of the demo.

Who's the third? Dunn and Derbs is all I can come up with.

Paul Gallagher.

According to the LET, Toogs has had an international call up for this weeks friendly in Georgia, 3 years after he "retired"