Thanks @J*B

So we're basically spunking millions on salaries for no tangible benefit.

It's astonishing that we spend £15-20m more than Preston.

Where exactly does that go?

Taken in isolation, no the club shouldn't be criticised for a bit of light hearted fun.

But in the wider scheme of things, we have a new season looming, a complete lack of marketing to potential new customers, a complete break down in comms to existing customers, a manager who's past his sell by, a CEO who's gone AWOL, no sign of any new players, and the likely prospect of us losing our only player capable of scoring goals.

They have - or should have - bigger priorities.

A free drink or food item versus....a brick and a £15 voucher at the Roverstore.

Hmmm......

Maggott will try and capitalise on it by charging a fiver per letter or something daft like that.

He'll be trying to count how many letters there are in the name and do the maths as we speak....

I'll turn it around then.

If we somehow got promoted back to the PL under the present incumbents, do you think our attendances would stay as-is or would we see an big increase?

I'd wager the latter.

3 minutes ago, gumboots said:

I wouldn't go to another league club, but we used to go to Clitheroe if Rovers weren't at home on the same day, so it's not a shift of allegiance. And I find it insulting to suggest, as unsall did, that it's the loss of premiership football that lost fans and they'd come back if we were in the Premier League. Many would be back, if not as season ticket holders as walk ons, if there was any ambition,  any competence, any sign that matters were on the up. Nobody expects miracles. Basic ability to run a Championship club would be a good start. 

Of course it's the loss of Premiership football which is the predominant reason many have disappeared.

That happens at most clubs.

The way the club is mismanaged simply compounds the issue with Rovers.

I'll be renewing mine and my daughter's closer to the renewal deadline; I'd like to think that there are more like us who keep hold of our money as long as we can :) and that the number will grow. Like Chaddy, I'm looking forward to getting down to Ewood again.

Waggott has completely shot himself in the foot though with his pricing strategy. He's gambled on getting a decent uptake of season tickets by overpricing match day tickets, but that appears to have backfired on him. If by some remarkable reason we enjoy some on pitch success whereby we would normally have seen a good number of walk-ons, this won't happen due to the ludicrous match day prices. 

We could very well be stuck at sub 8k (at best) all season.

I'm sure that I saw a bus driving through Wheelton the other day advertising season tickets.

Season tickets from 2 seasons ago I believe.

That just about sums it up for me.

1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

Surely this would be ideal to trial for the Bradford and Bolton games since Rovers fans aren't allowed to go? 

That would involve a modicum of forethought :)

We need seasoned, hardened pros who know how to scrap. 

Loanee youngsters aren't going to get us out of the bottom 6 when it's back to the wall come February.

Johnson, Travis, Buckley, Davenport, Rothwell.

Any combination of those fills me with fear.

Mowbray has had some success with some players (Dack, Armstrong).

He's also signed some absolute donkeys.

His main inadequecy is that he can't piece together a 'team'.

Gim him Messi, Ronaldo, De Bruyne, VVD et al.....and he'd still make a mess of it.

We know what's coming.

"Working with Chile and starring in the Copa America is a lot different from working with us and he wasn't ready to play yet".

My daughter is down at Ewood this week.

All the Umbro advertising etc is still in situ. No hurry eh lads?...

12 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Personally i don't expect anything different from the Chapman/Mowbray saga we've already seen recently.

Agreed. It's just another lazy signing.

15 hours ago, OldEwoodBlue said:

I respectfully disagree John.

We need administration ASAP and rebuild from the ground up.

The fans will come out united, the swamp will be cleared and the last 10 years put behind us.

Anything else is prolonging the agony and division.

Think you are backing the wrong horse.

Absolute tosh.

Enter administration, and we may never come back. That's what generally happens to businesses who go bust.

31 minutes ago, EgyptianPete said:

Regarding the renewal pole, it looks like people will renew if Mowbray wasn't manager, well i will renew so i can voice my opinion on Mowbray at the match, i reckon a few thousand telling him his time is up will push him out sooner rather than later.

I concur. I've been going since 1975 and will continue to do so long after this lot have vanished.

Mowbray will be getting both barrels from me.

2 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

I was wondering about this also,what benefit do they get from not submitting them until the last second? Doesn't seem like there would be (my knowledge on this subject is limited)

Less time for them to get scrutinised and resulting fine/points deduction/embargo issued before the season starts, perhaps?

If there was nothing awry, you'd think they'd just get the accounts submitted, job done.

Unless of course.....

25 minutes ago, rigger said:

Form from a previous season has no bearing whatsoever, I would be targetting 9 points from those first five fixtures.

Not always the case I agree, but there are countless examples of teams continuing good/bad end of season runs into the next.

In our case, the same management/tactics/players will likely result in the same outcome as the last third of last season.

Under the present management and considering form over the last 20 or so games, 2 points max looking at that list I reckon.

Eek.

3 hours ago, JHRover said:

Where does it say it should be £439?

I thought it had been £459 since last season 

Nope. £439 was the price last season, and therefore this.

At least they got it right on the FAQs page though.

I stand corrected. It was £459. The FAQ for this year shows it as £439 though.