On reflection , Frampton Comes Alive wasn't too bad...... And Jonathon Richman , of course ..

Bit of a student type wasn't he , Philip ? That disqualifies him in my book ! Now , The Ramones were more the real deal ; try It's Alive - probably the only decent live album I've ever heard.

Don't believe it ! It's all downhill I'm 41

Nevertheless , Ricky ; it needs saying that Theno is getting a raw deal - primarily in my opinion because his political views are somewhat to the right of centre . This shouldn't mean that anyone can have a pop at him anytime they feel like it. Either the rules are applied equally to all or they should be changed accordingly. If this forum is supposed to be a true reflection of all supporters and not just a happy-clappy meeting place for the PC brigade then articulate members such as Theno should be at the very least treated with courtesy.

Most pretentious , Bernard ? I think the previous contributer to your good self might be in with a shout there ! ( As well as the most Self Righteous T*ss*r)

There was a Euro game last Thursday . Not sobered up yet to remember it ? ( I'm still trying to forget it !! )

Infiltration was kept to the "mimimum" Rev !? Not near me in the JW upper it wasn't . There were whole groups of Celts sitting together. Were they on the database? - I doubt it , but they got the tickets from the club originally , that's for certain. As Glenn implied earlier , it can be established how the Celtic fans (at least those who were ejected) got their tickets simply by obtaining the seat numbers and finding out whose name is on the ticket, ie the person who sold/gave it on. Until the club goes down the route of tracing and making an example of such people - and it has the power- then the word spreads that we're a soft touch. The word also spreads that its not safe for women and kids to go to big games ( Don't call me sexist Colin !) and that we're only a family club when there's 20,000 on the ground. Add this lazy , take-the -money-and-run attitude to the incompetent stewarding problems - not to mention the policing procedures - and the end result is a situation making it virtually impossible to extend our fan base in the long run. Radical measures are needed - some kind of identity card system linked to the data base making true identitification foolproof would be a start . The technology is there , I'm sure. But is the imagination and will necessary to carry it through ?

Perhaps we should invite the Celtic fans to demolish the precinct - it could only end up being an improvement! As for the cops ; well it's a pity they can't put as much effort into an imaginative method of policing fellow adults other than closing half the pubs down. After all they can be very ingenious when it comes to chasing motorists ! As someone implied earlier - and was the case back in the 70's - ; if you treat people like animals , they'll act accordingly. Let's hope the rumours are wrong and the Scot fans are welcomed as guests by all.

Tut tut Blue Phil, sexist! If there is any bother I'll be hiding behind the wife and daughter. Any Celtic supporter who wants to take on that combination has my blessing and I'll send flowers to the hospital First time I've been called sexist on this forum , Colin - though I suppose it was inevitable ! Seriously though, I'm sure we have a larger female/children to male ratio than most clubs (which is a good thing) ; and I'm sure a lot of them on this occasion will prefer to watch the game on TV away from the sectarian/BNP/Dingle hordes who are going to ruin this fixture !! ( Well ,at least according to the rumours ) :'>

You shouldn't be , Tony. A sizeable proportion of our fans are kids and women who may think that this game could be a little too rowdy ! Any "neutrals" who fancy taking their place probably won't qualify for a ticket. Not an easy problem to solve.

No , no Colin . You misheard. Celtic are drafting him in to tighten up the midfield !!