12 minutes ago, OsloRover said:

Hardly, it was very clever according to the commentators 🙂

Nonsense. If the wall is guarding one side, the keeper covers the other. Basics.  Well placed strike, shouldn’t beat a half decent keeper. 

More of an even keel the second half after Celtic put their second string on.  

Good to see Vale play 85mins. Not easy when you don’t see a lot of the ball but he showed some nice glimpses, particularly back to goal under pressure. Lovely assist too. 

great  for Ayala to get an hour or more as well.  Desperate for him to stay fit, as unlikely as it seems. 
 

Think JDT will be pleased, particularly getting minutes in the first team legs against a superior side. Glad Celtic took it easy on us in the end. They could have put us to the sword if they kept Kyogo and Abada on. 

still need  5 or 6 first team players. 

Won’t score an easier free kick in his life 🤣 what was their keeper doing?

Let’s hope Wham haven’t sent their scouts to this one.  We’ll have to burn all footage of it if we want a decent fee for Diaz.  Nothing stuck there.  If you’d never heard of him you certainly wouldn’t be picking him out as better than anyone else on the pitch today. 

What’s worrying for me is that knowing how limited our full backs are, the formation chosen by the new manager has completely exposed them.  Pickering shouldn’t come back out, he’s done today. His confidence must be shot to pieces.  

We’re playing 4 attacking players who have hardly had a kick and left Buckley and Travis exposed and overrun… why when we’re playing a superior team?

interested to see how JDT responds to this. Could end up 4 or 5 if we aren’t careful.

oh hang on, Celtic taking their big guns off now. 

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11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

He has no reason to lie don't he and why wouldn't he tell the truth to a straight forward and simple question

Managers lie all the time... or let's say 'massage the truth'.   He's really just come out with platitudes when confronted directly with a question about the elephant in the room.... "The club are working really hard".... “I think they will come. It’s about patience and getting the right choices."... “It’s a new situation, a new chapter."  I could have stood in front of the reporter and answered with that degree of clarity, and my sources are this message board and Alan 'Aye' Nixon.

Frankly, it's the same stuff Mowbray would come out with last season. 

Christ, the point I'm coming to time and time again is, talk's cheap.  I'm certain JDT wants players in, why wouldn't he? But he's not even remotely in control of the important bit... the deal itself!  So until we see genuine action, fans are rightly going to be very nervous.

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

JDT has told you the truth about what is going on with our transfer but far too many of you are going into panic mode cos we haven't made one signing yet. 

Again, I appreciate your adoration for JDT, but you have as much evidence that he has told the truth as I have that he has lied... none.  We just have to hope wheels are turning.

14 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Jon Dahl Tomasson has told the fans and media that Rovers are very busy trying to bring in the new signings

Appreciate your faith in the new regime, but what exactly would you expect him to say?  "It's a bit of a shit-show really, there's a real sense of panic creeping in".

1 hour ago, neophox said:

Sherwood still unhappy ...

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/football-news/blackburn-rovers-sherwood-criticises-mowbray-24491072

Unpopular opinion, but I can see why outsiders would come to this conclusion.  It certainly draws parallels with McCarthy at Ipswich.  After 6 years large swathes of the fan base had become restless and disillusioned, probably with the quite dour and pragmatic football - following strong seasons of 6th, 7th and 9th, they'd started to finish mid-table, 16th and then 12th. 

29 March 2018 - In the end, they got their wish - McCarthy resigned and the new dawn could begin - welcome Paul Hurst from Shrewsbury... a relatively unproven manager, certainly at Championship level.

13th April 2019 - Ipswich Town boss Paul Lambert said the club's relegation is "gut-wrenching for everybody" after their drop to League One was confirmed.

I would image to those who aren't as engrossed in the club and hang on to every result, article or interview, this would be seen as an unnecessary risk. 

We've rolled the dice... taken a risk.... the fans got what they wanted - that's how many outsiders will view it.  Ultimately, JDT talks a good game but no-one knows how this season will play out - it could be a total disaster.  And if it is, just like the Allardyce sacking, and just like the Bowyer sacking, those who were ready for a change could find themselves scrabbling for excuses as to why they were correct.

FWIW, I wanted a change, but I was and still am VERY aware that any decision like this comes with  enormous caveats and potential pitfalls.  Time will tell.

55 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

At 23 still a fairly young striker...but the season before last, he played in the Championship for Rotherham. 31 games...with no goals! Hope he was being played out of position or something if we're interested, because that's a terrible return for a striker. In fact it's no return.

Did better last season with Portsmouth, 13 in 40, but in League One. Has had good goal returns for England youth teams up to U20s. On paper it's a no thanks from me.

No idea if the source has any credibility.

If I understand TransferMarkts stats correctly, those 30-odd appearances for Rotherham accumulated to 675 minutes on the pitch. Averages out at 20mins a game for a team that weren't free scoring anyway. 

For Pompey he scored 1 goal every 186 mins on the pitch, averaging 60mins per game across his 40 appearances. 

Pompey are also desperate to get him back: https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/update-latest-on-chances-of-return-for-george-hirst-and-what-leicester-citys-ex-sheffield-wednesday-and-rotherham-united-man-told-portsmouth-boss-3737014

45 minutes ago, rigger said:

Of course whether they are our players or not matters. They would not be available for us this season, so they have no effect on this seasons starting eleven. If the talk is about last seasons team. Then we have lost 5 starters from a team who finished eighth and underperformed for much of the season. I believe we should not only replace the players who have left, but more importantly, improve on them. 

That's precisely what the talk was about when you asked Mercer to name them.  Then you tried to somehow argue that because they were loan players they shouldn't be considered as first team regulars 🤨

Regarding your comment, "They would not be available for us this season, so they have no effect on this seasons starting eleven"... I'm struggling to see how the 3 out of contract players have any effect on our starting 11 this season too.  

Improving on them is a different argument altogether, and there will probably come a time for that.  For now, let's all stick to facts.  We're 5 first team players down since we last played a competitive match.  If we want to be pedantic we could argue Markanday is practically a new addition. 

34 minutes ago, rigger said:

It is just my attitude. I tend not to worry about things that haven't happened. If other people want to worry, then go ahead.

It appears you're tending not to worry about things that HAVE happened as well... like 5 of our regular starters from last season leaving the club.  Loans not being relevant as you tried to suggest before is a nonsense, as is telling us Rothwell and Nyambe would have been bit-part... that's just a baseless comment. 

I appreciate people are trying to remain positive and patient, but I think it's important we stick to the facts as well.   

16 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

I don’t agree or disagree, how could I possibly have an opinion of the job a football manager is doing before he’s managed a game?

 

Correct.  Talk's cheap.  I think all fans have been impressed by JDTs public displays, but that's literally all they are - saying what he wants us to hear.  I have heard little rumours that the players were very impressed with the Portugal trip, which is encouraging. 

Ultimately won't mean anything if we've played 5, lost 5 and had a shocking window by the end of August. 

1 minute ago, ItsRoverZ said:

I don't know, because our interest in Anel was supposedly real? So we must of bid 3 mil for him?  Maybe 2 to 3 mil for Davies too?

His wages are the stumbling block, never mind the fee.  According to some sources, Liverpool gave him a six year deal worth 60K p/w 😂  https://www.spotrac.com/epl/liverpool-fc/ben-davies-71614/

If that's the case he's over our max wage outlay by about 300%.   

5 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Think the Davies is Harvey Davies, one of the keepers

Spot on: https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/liverpool-confirm-37-man-squad-thailand-and-singapore

Just now, TheRevAshton said:

I was told that he was offered more in the region of 22k - I really can't reveal who told me this, but I will say that this person is undoubtedly very much ITK.

This in my mind was the kind of figures I'd be expecting.  So, hey, might be a load of tosh.  As I say, I was flabbergasted.

5 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Sounds about right.

More fool us. 3k a week increase for 4 years is an extra cost to the club of what, about £600k cost if he sees it through?

Pats on the back for sticking to the 'wage structure' though.

Bet Wilder and Middlesbrough couldn't believe their luck

I mean, to me it didn't sound right.  It sounds ridiculously not-right.  Person who told me said, guess what he wanted to increase to... I guessed 18k, thinking that was perhaps a bit low.  15K 😐😐  I don't suppose we'll ever truly know unless someone asks Waggott, Mowbray or Lenihan directly. And even then,  I wouldn't expect SW to divulge, especially if it was indeed such a modest request!

21 minutes ago, martonrover said:

Difficult to replace with equal or better when you only have buttons to spend, (not everyone is as daft as us to get in a position where you are giving players in their prime away).

 

I'm not ITK, nor do I claim to be - but I was told this morning that Lenihan was on 12k here.  To sign a new deal he wanted an increase of 3k, up to 15 - that was refused.   I was astonished, but don't have much reason to doubt the source.  I'm sure plenty will quickly shoot me down here, happy to be proven wrong if anyone has the figures...

7 hours ago, phili said:

Not a surprise though, he would likely have been a squad player here so chose guaranteed first team football at Derby which at his age I can understand.

I think from all bits of information we have a transfer budget of something around £6-8m so reasonable. Our issue is our wage budget, we have the same as last year, so with all the players that have left we have around £45k a week to fund 6-8 players.

 

To be honest I'd be very happy with this budget, but what bits of information have allowed you to reach that figure?  I've seen Broughton suggest a 'healthy budget' whatever that means, and the news that we missed out on Anel (grow up) with the inference that we bid £3m... although there is absolutely no evidence to back that up either.

Genuinely asking, and hoping I've missed some snippet or news that has alluded to us having 6 - 8mill to spend.

15 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Given we a budget I will suggestion some potential signings if you want.

With respect, I'm not sure you or anyone on here recommending signings is going to allay any/many fears.  At this precise moment, the transfer window is a disaster, simple as that.   7 or 8 regular first team players gone, Ethan Walker brought in.  The only thing that will change the creeping panic is proper action.  Anything else is window dressing.

21 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Those 4 players you mention aren't irreplaceable. We will sign players of similar ability or even better.

Haha, totally baseless comment.  2 of those players have gone to a more ambitious Championship team who will very likely finish higher than us this season and one is now playing in the Premier League.  How can you possibly say we will sign players of similar ability or better.  We COULD do, but it's going to be a hell of an uphill battle unless GB and JDT are very well supported financially.

Actions speak louder than words.  A month into Broughton's appointment we've had nothing more than positive soundbites. It can change and we all hope it does, but it won't help resorting to stubborn statements with no substance or evidence.

14 minutes ago, longsiders1882 said:

The speed and proactivity if the recruitment is keeping most happy. Think we’d just like the status of McNeill, Brownhil, Collins and Cornet resolving but generally we are happy - personally feeling quite some trepidation, lots of young players from lower leagues or with minimal league experience, it’s quite a gamble.

On season tickets, last update I saw was to cover the early bird sales at around 12400. That was pre relegation and the Dyche sacking. I don’t know how many we sold last season overall but I’d anticipate a drop after relegation.

Deeply depressing.

4 minutes ago, longsiders1882 said:

I’d never heard of him until I saw the links. Is he really that poor? If so I can only pray it’s paper talk. 
 

BPF seemed to play regularly last season though so none on here did say he was poor. I guess we can only wait to see who is actually sold etc and go from there.

What's the general demeanor across the Dingle message board(s) after this glut of signings?   I imagine some positivity has swept the fan base?  Okay, you're losing some big hitters (to be expected), but swift action in the market has considerably softened that blow?

Also, any indication on number of season tickets sold thus far?  Dare I ask 😪

On 04/07/2022 at 20:50, 1864roverite said:

Not unless he has a change of attitude 👍

I hadn't seen this post. 

"Attitude" seems an interesting choice of word.   Do you mean as simple as a 'change of heart' or 'change of mind' whereby he would decide that the offer (no-one knows for sure if it's good, bad or otherwise) by Rovers was acceptable and he would therefore re-sign?  Or was it a more deliberate use of the word "Attitude" to imply the offer from Rovers might no longer be there unless something changes.... whatever that may be?

Burnley now up to signing number 5 for the summer; Samuel Bastien from Standard Liege.  Kompany getting their business done quickly.  Yes, they're losing players, but they've identified their targets and got them in, quick sharp.  Meanwhile, just before 3pm our Twitter team were eagerly counting down the minutes until our new kit was formally on sale in the club shop ☠️

Trying not to get impatient/worried at this point.  Come on Rovers, time is ticking!