2 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

Nervous about what exactly? It’s quite clear that money took CC abroad to Warner climes and only on a 1 yr deal it pretty much emphasises his journeyman tag! I haven’t ever suggested he was favourite to land the job and he is definitely not nor has been my first choice so to make sure you understand I am not worried unless of course I fail to land a few fish on Friday 🎣🎣

Nervous about the possibility of having to justify a potentially woeful appointment, obviously. You've been telling us all for weeks how clueless we all are and how bright the future is... You'll be praying this doesn't get embarassing.

In fact, I'm praying this doesn't get embarassing... But my hope is beginning to fade, fast! 

19 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Firstly, take a step here, Its Mercer's comments about Duncan Ferguson plus the comments from @Bbrovers2288in several posts about Duncan Ferguson here ❚❚ Searched for 'Ferguson ' in All Content (brfcs.com) plus also when I was talking to Alan Myers a couple of weeks he answered any questions but the Duncan Ferguson. Also add to that other people posted on other media sites and platforms. Its clear he has been interviewed at very least. @Buttytake a close look at why I think Mercer might be correct

And that’s fine, but don’t use Mercer as a credible source when you’ve been rightly calling out his nonsense predictions for months.  For the record, being “correct” in my opinion isn’t as simple as making scattergun prophecies with an accuracy rate of 1 in 1000.  
 

On the Ferguson link, I don’t know what he’s done to deserve the job.  Apart from that short stint at Everton he has no experience in a managerial capacity.  All that running around dancing with ball boys doesn’t impress me either.  Who knows, it might be an inspired appointment, but initially I can’t say I’d be very impressed with it. 

2 hours ago, 1864roverite said:

Despite your (and others) reservations about ticket sales, you will be surprised to see the club are in fact on track to reach the pre-pandemic level of sales looking at the numbers sold so far.

I would be very surprised to see that.  Have they released sales figures?  Are you privy to such information?  A good appointment could make all the difference.... a bad one, however.

35 minutes ago, Mercer said:

 

Also understand Jagielka has thrown his hat into the ring.

Recently signed a 6 month extension with Stoke as a member of the playing staff. 

26 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

I think you are totally misguided on this point it was such a huge thing to do it was unique and it was a whole community project that took a lot of people making hard decisions despite the fact it might not be well received - I say it was a complete and utter success and deserved nothing but praise to the club the community the elders and seniors involved and of course those who took part 

Yet to understand why you tried to spin this as an argument that long-suffering Rovers fans have brought this complete lack of communication and stakeholder negligence on themselves.  

The Rao's MIGHT (according to what you've seen/heard/ allege to have been told) be trying to right the so very many wrongs of their ownership, but until there's tangible evidence, appointments, communication or results that support such whispers and hearsay, please don't try to push any blame on to the fanbase. It's embarrassing.

56 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

Maybe it is because he doesn’t like the substantial amount of criticism and abuse whereas some well formed dialogue might assist in getting a response! The abuse the club has received following the Eid celebration is nothing short of shocking and embarrassing and to me it’s downright disgusting for the type of comments made to and about the club

The bit in bold 🤣🤣🤣  You're absolutely spot on, we've been without a morsel of well-formed dialogue for 12 years!!  Have you considered that some well-formed dialogue from the club might assist in getting a positive response from the fanbase, rather than the other way round?

How can you expect fans to engage in well formed dialogue via the available communication lines of twitter, unread email inboxes, a once in a blue moon evening with Waggot and comments on the LET webpage.  Get real. 

 

31 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Bit premature to have a meltdown on the strength of the word of someone on here that Balaji's son will be coming into the Club.

Bit harsh as well. Given Suhail is their eyes and ears on the ground over her and was formerly their driver difficult to see how he could be much of a downgrade whilst learning on the job.

If he's the eyes and ears you don't need much technical expertise for that, if he was coming in and taking Waggott's job straight away you might have more of a point but even then, could he do much worse? Name one thing Waggott has done which has been of benefit to the Club.

Perhaps they're copying the John Williams model anyway - appointing someone who knew the square root of naff all about football at the time he was appointed.

That worked out (generally) OK.

Hmmm, was it a meltdown?  I stand by what I said.   The Rao's bought one of the best run clubs in English football... 12 years later fans are getting giddy about the prospect of their son, with absolutely no experience in football, coming in at boardroom level.

Your comment on Waggott only really reinforces my point.  Adopting an 'anything but him' approach.  Forget appointing a proven, experienced candidate, yon lad can't do any worse, give him a try.  I mean, have we all just forgotten what a proper football club looks like? **

As for comparisons with the John Williams model.   Williams was appointed by Jack Walker - the man who transformed BRFC, took us to the very top of the football pyramid and had the very best interest of the club and the town at heart.  No doubt he made mistakes during his ownership, but he quickly rectified them and you could never, ever question his motives. The Rao's on the other hand.... 

**EDIT - Apologies, misread the Waggot paragraph, realised you aren't recommending him for that role, more mocking how hopeless Waggot is. 

Still I maintain, what kind of company position is a 'snidey go between' to spy on the CEO THEY employed 🤣 it's fucking bananas and once again reinforces my point that our expectations have been eroded away to the point of complete despair! 
 

12 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

It's expertise.

I know, I did spot that and couldn't be bothered to change.  

3 minutes ago, phili said:

Problem is that Pasha is basically their Chaeffeur and has been their eyes and ears on the ground for those 12 years. So it has been some come down since we were the best run club in the country.

I view this as a good thing getting us back up their agenda and not forgotten about. It may well reignite their enthusiasm.

You may be right Phili, but can you believe it's come to this?  They're so petrified of being rinsed again that the only people they choose to trust are their driver, or their son. Neither of whom have ANY experience or expertees in the world of professional football.  Pathetic.

4 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Reminds me of when Dave Whelan appointed his grandson as Chairman after a less than stellar stint running the chippy at the ground… 

What about this one: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6459615/Britains-YOUNGEST-football-boss-19-inherited-1M-West-Ham-Womens-team-billionaire-dad.html

44 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Think the son is very very switched on went to a top uni and will have an idea on football so this can only be positive.

An extraordinary marker of how just how far we have fallen as a club, but also how it can, over time dumb down the expectations of the fanbase.  To think John Williams was chairman 11 years ago.  Now we've got genuine positivity about the owners son, fresh out of a top uni, taking a senior role on the board.   

1 minute ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Great player but not a manager.

What about a sporting director?

Stuart Pearce just left West Ham.....  He must have something lined up. 

15 minutes ago, Mercer said:

I don't think Sharpe has an insight like the lads on Liverpool Echo and Manchester Evening News have about their teams, moreover, I think Sharpe writes what he's allowed to!

I understand interviews/discussions have now taken place with at least two candidates.  I have little reason to doubt the credibility of the source.

You must have a new source then?  I can think of at least 65 reasons to doubt ANY of your previous ones.  I do tend to remember the occasions when you're completely wrong.... I won't start reeling them off. But can you point to any occasion in the last 10 years where one of your ITK titbits has come to fruition?  

17 minutes ago, martonrover said:

Look at his overall record as a manager at several clubs. It's very good. Compared to some of the appalling names mentioned, he's a worthy candidate. Even decent managers often fail at one club. 

I could see either ending up at Leeds, especially if they are relegated.

This is what makes our dithering and muddling even more frustrating.

I highly doubt that this is the main or only reason for not having already made an appointment, but isn't there a likelihood that someone like Farke might hang on to see who is relegated before committing to a job like Rovers? He may already have been told not to take another job quite yet... 

Sometimes it's easy to think the only barriers to an appointment are created by the owners or their merry men. Might not necessarily be the case. 

45 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

Had heard from another source (uk based) Stuart Pearce's name was be banded about a bit.

Pearce's managerial record leaves a hell of a lot to be desired BUT, he is a huge advocate for developing the younger generation - he peddled the importance of the younger England teams for many years.... failing miserably with them at many a major tournament I may add.  If the V's are looking at this idea of utilising and developing the academy, Pearce may be someone you would look at for a role upstairs.  I always think he speaks well when I hear or see him on the media, seems to be an intelligent guy.

11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

He got 2 top 6 finish and playoff spot. Better than Mowbray did here 

He was the head coach of them not the person deciding on the players they signed or wages they got. 

He is someone I have like since his days at Sheffield United cos he is good coach and set his teams well.

Better than Mowbray.... who spent less than £20m in five seasons and (about £0.00 net) and is still criticised for not reaching the playoffs.

I am always uncomfortable with this thought.  If the coach in this DoF scenario isn't heavily involved in the identification of transfer targets in my opinion it's a recipe for disaster.  Your explanation above seems to be that a player just turns up with his boots one day and Carvalhal asks what position he plays.  The detachment of any blame (or indeed praise) for transfers to and from the club is a get out of jail card in my opinion.

Anyway, I was quietly impressed when we was mentioned the other day (like you, I remember his Sheff Wed stint and it seemed impressive) - just noting some caution given the reasons above.

I had no idea of his recent success in Portugal, so that's a positive.

14 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

He did a good job at Sheffield Wednesday including 2 top 6 finish/playoff place. 

He has head coach there and he had director of football/transfer committee above him signing the players. 

Alot of foreign coaches are head coaches and they like to work with a director of football so if you are going to appoint a Daniel Farke or Carlos Carvalhal then you will need a director of football aswell

Seemingly he didn't succeed with an expensively assembled Sheff Wed side, not just transfer fees but also on wages - Barry Bannan for example, Aidan McGeady, Callum McMannaman.  Whether his signings or not, he was there to get them promoted and failed.

@supernikohas made a good case for his recent record, so not all lost - I was just surprised to see you put him as your preferred choice alongside Farke.

12 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

People will put bets on what they have heard or read from ITK's or what others are saying. 

I did put a bet on Farke to be our next manager at 20/1. Based on what Glen Mullan posted on here. Also backed Carlos Carvalhal at 25/1 when Nixon said he was interested in the job here. I have gone for a few outsiders including Grayson. I backed Grayson cos of that TV studio appearance at Rovers game with PNE

But the right appointment is Daniel Farke or Carlos Carvalhal with a director of football above them. 

Why Carvahal, may I ask... what's he done in his managerial career? Spent £37m in 3 seasons at Sheff Wed with £1.22m of outgoings in that entire time. £10m of that was on Rhodes who would have been MASSIVE wages as well.  £5.3m on Adam Reach who's hardly done anything since... Gary Hooper and a few random players from Portugal.   No wonder they're in a mess financially.

20 jobs in 24 years as a manger...  what case can you really make for him?  Genuinely interested to know if I've missed something.

1 hour ago, Mike E said:

I don't want him myself, but I do understand the logic to a degree. Assistant to Silva, Benitez and Ancelotti. None of them are mugs, so he must have something about him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Clement_(football_manager)

52 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I’ve never gone into any game, playing or watching, wanting to lose. That’s just crazy in my opinion.

I did in certain games during the Kean era - particularly when it felt like the pressure was mounting.  I was sat there considering whether a win would adversely affect us, medium/long term.  I was right - we were relegated, and at no point in that season did we look like surviving.  A scarce win here and there wasn't going to mean anything.

On reflection, was Kean's position even remotely results driven?  Probably not, so there's an argument I was wrong to think like that.... Those that want us to lose tonight would do well to ponder the fact that it's likely the same situation with TM.  Those making the decision probably couldn't care less what happens tonight.

16 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

So you have lost all sense of perspective. The underlying reason that you hate Mowbray is because of the results for Rovers, so I don't get how you can possibly hate Mowbray more than wanting Rovers to win.

There are very few "mogga apologists" left, I think the vast, vast majority want him out and even in the ground, I have sensed a turn.

I think plenty of people had this feeling around the Kean era.  The odd win wasn't going to do anything more than solidify his position.  Celebrating a goal/win was always accompanied and 'punctured' by the gut-wrenching feeling that it wouldn't change the course of our season, but it would strengthen Kean's position, even though it was crystal clear he would take us down.

I used to argue quite a lot with people who'd sit there with their hands in their lap saying 'support the team', not realising that all they were supporting was a side more or less guaranteed to go down and a club with a very grim future.  Personally, I wasn't able separate the immediate matters on the pitch from the achingly obvious (and likely illegal) destruction of the club... it felt hollow to be cheering on an almost trivial matter such as a goal, when clearly our beloved club was being taken to the cleaners.

I'm not comparing the two scenarios, I felt far more strongly about Kean than I do Mowbray.

We're now 6 points from the playoff places with 3 games to go BUT it is still mathematically possible, therefore we all should in theory be hoping for a win.  Defeat tonight would kill off even the faintest hope - I think a lot of fans would then go in to the final two games hoping we get beat, in the hope that it would offer no opportunity for positive spin.